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05-15-2018 , 07:27 AM
Hey Scylla,
Could this be fixed in CREV?

https://imgur.com/a/IWW40Nj

All range is duplicated for some reason and when I press that thing in red frame CREV crushes
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05-15-2018 , 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by gsdastin
Hey Scylla,
Could this be fixed in CREV?

https://imgur.com/a/IWW40Nj

All range is duplicated for some reason and when I press that thing in red frame CREV crushes
Are you using the latest version? I believe there was an issue like this some time ago, but it was since fixed. Should you be using the latest version, can you please send a savefile to support where this issue occurs so that we can try to reproduce it?
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05-15-2018 , 08:03 AM
Just sent you an e-mail, I am using 3.3.5.
Thanks!
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05-15-2018 , 09:33 PM
can we pls get an option for OOP not to lead if he closes the action on the previous street by calling? I have to turn off the "Don't bet OOP if you have been passive so far" option to allow OOP to lead when the flop goes check-check but he also leads when the flop goes check-bet-call and since i have multiple sizes for OOP turn leads it takes up so much solving time.
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05-16-2018 , 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
Basic (recommended)
Only flop solutions are stored. This is however no disadvantage, given that turn data will automatically be recalculated on the fly when it's requested. This recalculation will rarely take more than a few seconds.

Medium
Turn reports will now also include data for individual hands, whereas "Basic" will only store data for the entire range.

Extensive
Turn data is now also stored, meaning that when navigating to a turn the data will be immediately loaded, as opposed to a few seconds of recalc time being needed.

Generally, "Medium" and "Extensive" are not really necessary. The recalc of the turn data happens really quickly. And data for individual hands in turn reports is not really necessary. So, in any practical use, you can just use the "Basic" setting without ever noticing a difference.
Helpful, thanks Scylla.
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05-16-2018 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pitsquared
can we pls get an option for OOP not to lead if he closes the action on the previous street by calling? I have to turn off the "Don't bet OOP if you have been passive so far" option to allow OOP to lead when the flop goes check-check but he also leads when the flop goes check-bet-call and since i have multiple sizes for OOP turn leads it takes up so much solving time.
Actually, with "Don't bet OOP if you have been passive so far" ON the tree builder will still allow OOP to bet if the flop goes check-check. And he will not bet the turn if the flop action was check-bet-call. So I think it already works in the manner that you're requesting. Unless, possibly you're not using the latest version, in which case please upgrade to v112.
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05-21-2018 , 01:47 PM
Hey Scylla, love your work. Downloaded the free trial of CREV and didn't get enough time to get to grips of it before it expired so I'm looking to download the full version now (confident it is worth it's price tag in any case). A bit unclear about it including the cost of GTO+ and how the licence keys work...?
If I pay for CREV now, can I download and request a key for CREV and GTO+, for $75 total? Am I understanding this correctly?
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05-21-2018 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by LucasVienna
Hey Scylla, love your work. Downloaded the free trial of CREV and didn't get enough time to get to grips of it before it expired so I'm looking to download the full version now (confident it is worth it's price tag in any case). A bit unclear about it including the cost of GTO+ and how the licence keys work...?
If I pay for CREV now, can I download and request a key for CREV and GTO+, for $75 total? Am I understanding this correctly?
Hi LucasVienna,

Yes, purchasing either CREV or GTO+ will also give you a license to the other product.

Whenever you need a new key for CREV, you can request it here:
http://www.cardrunnersev.com/requestkey.html

And if you need a new key for GTO+ please go here:
http://www.gtoplus.com/request-a-key/

Please let me know if you have further questions,

Scylla

Last edited by scylla; 05-21-2018 at 04:07 PM.
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05-22-2018 , 02:35 AM
Hi
I'm looking for a poker solver,and I like CREV and GTO +.
I find that"A license will entitle you to register the software on one computer"
I just want to know,if I buy a license,and later for some reason I switch to another computer (maybe sell the old one),or I uninstall the windows system and reinstall a new one,how can I cancel the license at the old computer/system?

Thank you!
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05-22-2018 , 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by iamEFX
Hi
I'm looking for a poker solver,and I like CREV and GTO +.
I find that"A license will entitle you to register the software on one computer"
I just want to know,if I buy a license,and later for some reason I switch to another computer (maybe sell the old one),or I uninstall the windows system and reinstall a new one,how can I cancel the license at the old computer/system?

Thank you!
Hi,

Whenever you need a new key, you can simply request it on the website: www.gtoplus.com/request-a-key
The new key will be sent to you within a few minutes of your request.

Hardware ID?
To get your hardware ID, start GTO+ and go to "register" in its menu.

Please let me know if you require further support,

Scylla
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05-22-2018 , 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
Hi,

Whenever you need a new key, you can simply request it on the website: www.gtoplus.com/request-a-key
The new key will be sent to you within a few minutes of your request.

Hardware ID?
To get your hardware ID, start GTO+ and go to "register" in its menu.

Please let me know if you require further support,

Scylla
Thank you Scylla,I'll go buy it!
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05-23-2018 , 12:22 PM
Any plans to add a rounding feature for mixed strategies like Pio has?
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05-23-2018 , 07:32 PM
Scylla, I am using the Advanced Tree Builder to use 3 bet sizings (33%, 50%, 66%) for the IP player on the flop, turn and river.

But for some reasons the 3 bet sizings (33%, 50%, 66%) are just used on the flop and not on the turn and river. As an example if you look on the below picture you see that on the turn just one sizing of 24.82 chips (which is equal to 64% of the pot and I did not specify even this sizing) by the solver is used. On the flop the 3 bet sizings (33%, 50%, 66%) are used properly. What did I do wrong here?

On the flop (everything is working fine):



On the turn (here you can see the issue):


Last edited by Kockar; 05-23-2018 at 07:53 PM.
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05-24-2018 , 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mongoose0141
Any plans to add a rounding feature for mixed strategies like Pio has?
Ok, I will consider it for later releases.
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05-24-2018 , 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Kockar
Scylla, I am using the Advanced Tree Builder to use 3 bet sizings (33%, 50%, 66%) for the IP player on the flop, turn and river.

But for some reasons the 3 bet sizings (33%, 50%, 66%) are just used on the flop and not on the turn and river. As an example if you look on the below picture you see that on the turn just one sizing of 24.82 chips (which is equal to 64% of the pot and I did not specify even this sizing) by the solver is used. On the flop the 3 bet sizings (33%, 50%, 66%) are used properly. What did I do wrong here?

On the flop (everything is working fine):



On the turn (here you can see the issue):

You have the option "With only two bets left, get the money in smoothly" selected. This means that once the stack to pot ratio drops to an amount where there's only two bets left, the software will take over and fill in these two final bets. This will ensure that the bet sizing in the final stages applies to the situation. Also, particularly when stacks are >=100bb, it's very rare for all the money to go in; it's not necessary to spend a lot of computation time on a scenario that almost never happens.

So, for the tree in the screenshot, for the scenario where the flop goes check-check, you will indeed still see multiple bet sizes on the turn because the stacks are still deep. However for the scenario in the screenshot where the stack-to-pot ratio is relatively low, the tree builder has taken over. I would recommend always using this option if stacks are somewhat deep. Particularly the play on the turn and river really does not need all this extra detail if you're only interested in the flop play; it barely affects the solution at all. For more detail on this, please see post #6822 a few pages back on this forum.

Last edited by scylla; 05-24-2018 at 03:54 AM.
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05-24-2018 , 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
You have the option "With only two bets left, get the money in smoothly" selected. This means that once the stack to pot ratio drops to an amount where there's only two bets left, the software will take over and fill in these two final bets. This will ensure that the bet sizing in the final stages applies to the situation. Also, particularly when stacks are >=100bb, it's very rare for all the money to go in; it's not necessary to spend a lot of computation time on a scenario that almost never happens.

So, for the tree in the screenshot, for the scenario where the flop goes check-check, you will indeed still see multiple bet sizes on the turn because the stacks are still deep. However for the scenario in the screenshot where the stack-to-pot ratio is relatively low, the tree builder has taken over. I would recommend always using this option if stacks are somewhat deep. Particularly the play on the turn and river really does not need all this extra detail if you're only interested in the flop play; it barely affects the solution at all. For more detail on this, please see post #6822 a few pages back on this forum.
Thanks scylla.
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05-25-2018 , 03:12 PM
One of my favourite Pio features that I'd love to see implemented into this program in the future would be Pio's turn reports feature that gives you a quick glance at what a player's strategy is after the flop action on every single turn.

i.e.


Great job with this, Scylla!
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05-26-2018 , 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TheTender31
One of my favourite Pio features that I'd love to see implemented into this program in the future would be Pio's turn reports feature that gives you a quick glance at what a player's strategy is after the flop action on every single turn.

i.e.


Great job with this, Scylla!
We can consider it, however, we do already offer a feature similar to this. For this, in the report, go to matrix output. And then, in the table, sort by the action that you're looking for. Other than the matrix displaying colour coded output, the table will also rank the cards for you in descending order. So, for example, in the pic below Td is where OOP will bet most. So this is kind of already present, although in a slightly different form.


Last edited by scylla; 05-26-2018 at 04:23 AM.
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05-26-2018 , 11:19 PM
Hey Scylla, i bought a new pc that should be decent enough to tun gto+. How can i get a key?
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05-27-2018 , 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Gcm1998
Hey Scylla, i bought a new pc that should be decent enough to tun gto+. How can i get a key?
You can simply request your key for GTO+ here: www.gtoplus.com/request-a-key
It will be sent to you within a few minutes of your request.

Hardware ID?
To get your hardware ID, start GTO+ and go to "register" in its menu.

Scylla
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05-27-2018 , 02:02 PM
Is there any way to convert GTO+ results into a format that can be loaded into Pio/PioViewer? Any plans for such?
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05-28-2018 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by TheTender31
Is there any way to convert GTO+ results into a format that can be loaded into Pio/PioViewer? Any plans for such?
Or even vice-versa (being able to covert Pio ranges/results into GTO+)

For example, I purchased some monkersolver preflop ranges that are formatted so I can load them into Pio. Would be super, super convenient if there was a way to convert these ranges into GTO+ for easy access.
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05-28-2018 , 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTender31
Is there any way to convert GTO+ results into a format that can be loaded into Pio/PioViewer? Any plans for such?
We can consider it, although transferring postflop GTO solutions from one program to another will most likely never be quite the same as having this data in the original program. There's an enormous amount of data present for each decision that a player makes, and it's far easier to make use of it in the original program.

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Originally Posted by TheTender31
Or even vice-versa (being able to covert Pio ranges/results into GTO+)

For example, I purchased some monkersolver preflop ranges that are formatted so I can load them into Pio. Would be super, super convenient if there was a way to convert these ranges into GTO+ for easy access.
Ok, importing preflop ranges into the preflop editor is quite a bit more straightforward.

Last edited by scylla; 05-28-2018 at 02:57 PM.
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05-28-2018 , 06:40 PM
I have two questions:

-Is there a way to import/export flops that aren't in the "flops" folder? I tend to store my flop subsets in another drive and putting the file location wasn't working

-What is the timeline for weighted flops import?
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05-29-2018 , 03:56 AM
Hey Scylla. Been playing around with GTO+ quite a bit the past couple of days and was thinking it would be good to have some way to filter hands in the decision graph. I'd quite like to be able to look at bet % vs equity and then filter the list by either parameter and order by the other. E.g. Filter hands below a certain equity and order in bet% to see which are give ups and which are low equity bluffs. Picking through the points on the graph is fiddly and using the list is worse.
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