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03-24-2018 , 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Sev Mile Dogg
On gto+, in the hand matrix section, where u can set player 1 hand, and player 2 hand. If u mess around with saved merged ranges, it appear the u can't just modify them with add hands or change color assignments without building a whole new thread.
No, it's possible to edit the predef ranges.
For this:
1) Load the range
2) Edit as you see fit
3) Select the range again
4) Click on "Overwrite"


Last edited by scylla; 03-24-2018 at 06:24 AM.
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03-26-2018 , 07:57 AM
Hi Scylla. I know CREV is not the priority right now but would it be possible to update the checkdown feature so that it can accept values for two players at once? For example - AA: (OP: 120%) (IP: 150%) etc.
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03-26-2018 , 01:18 PM
Scylla, could you please add autosave feature after each flop from database was solved? My GTO+ crashed and all calculation have gone...
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03-27-2018 , 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Siesta
Hi Scylla. I know CREV is not the priority right now but would it be possible to update the checkdown feature so that it can accept values for two players at once? For example - AA: (OP: 120%) (IP: 150%) etc.
We can look into it, however, a challenge there is that there needs to be a perfect match between the percentages of the two players. Otherwise money will either disappear or be created into/from nothing.
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03-27-2018 , 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by voy@ger
Scylla, could you please add autosave feature after each flop from database was solved? My GTO+ crashed and all calculation have gone...
For this use the "Process all files in folder" option.
It will store the database after every solve.
See the pic below.

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03-27-2018 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
We can look into it, however, a challenge there is that there needs to be a perfect match between the percentages of the two players. Otherwise money will either disappear or be created into/from nothing.
This occurred to me also but I think it would make sense to allow it as players will end up paying more rake postflop than the amount CREV applies at checkdown.
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03-27-2018 , 05:59 PM
hey scylla, Could you add a menu to switch a mix strategy to a pure strategy(sample range) like Monkeysolver? since a mix strategy are so hard to grasp for humans.
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03-28-2018 , 07:04 AM
Is there a possibility GTO+ will have a pre flop solver?
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03-28-2018 , 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Gcm1998
Is there a possibility GTO+ will have a pre flop solver?
It will be expensive.PIO version for that is 1000$.
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03-29-2018 , 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jasonhau
hey scylla, Could you add a menu to switch a mix strategy to a pure strategy(sample range) like Monkeysolver? since a mix strategy are so hard to grasp for humans.
We can consider it for later releases.
I assume that you mean just rounding solutions after the solve is complete?
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03-29-2018 , 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Gcm1998
Is there a possibility GTO+ will have a pre flop solver?
We can create a preflop solver within a few months, however, the problem is that most of our users don't have the resources to run such a feature. Also, a preflop solver only works for heads-up players (so not 3-handed or anything above it). So, we can consider it, but at the very least for the short term, we prefer to invest our time on features that are within reach of all of our clients.

Last edited by scylla; 03-29-2018 at 06:44 AM.
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03-29-2018 , 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
We can consider it for later releases.
I assume that you mean just rounding solutions after the solve is complete?

maybe after the solve complete?

I mean:sacrifice some EV to get a simpler strategy allow little deviation.
click the button, switch to a pure stratege.(all combos 100% frequency bet call or fold).
click again, back to NE strategy (all combos mixed frequency like now)

Does it possible?
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03-30-2018 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jasonhau
maybe after the solve complete?

I mean:sacrifice some EV to get a simpler strategy allow little deviation.
click the button, switch to a pure stratege.(all combos 100% frequency bet call or fold).
click again, back to NE strategy (all combos mixed frequency like now)

Does it possible?
It is one of the best proposals that have been made.

I think it would clearly mark the differences, although the competition would imitate the function shortly.

A serious improvement that instead of 100% an option would have 100% or 50% ... without other percentages ... this would be closer to the optimal strategy and it would still be easy to apply.
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03-30-2018 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jasonhau
maybe after the solve complete?

I mean:sacrifice some EV to get a simpler strategy allow little deviation.
click the button, switch to a pure stratege.(all combos 100% frequency bet call or fold).
click again, back to NE strategy (all combos mixed frequency like now)

Does it possible?
We can round the output to any fraction. However, when it comes to analyzing large data sets, typically the trick is to try and find patterns in the data. When doing so it's generally best to not alter the individual data points. That being said, rounding is not difficult to do, so we can consider it for later releases.

Last edited by scylla; 03-30-2018 at 02:48 PM.
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03-31-2018 , 06:48 AM
Scylla I think I found a bug. Those 3 database buttons which are usually below the "run solver" button sometimes disappear and I cant access the database
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03-31-2018 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
For this use the "Process all files in folder" option.
It will store the database after every solve.
See the pic below.

Hi Scylla, I also asked for this feature before but... can't you just add a autosave every few solves for processing in database/scripting mode? I'd assume it's pretty easy.
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04-01-2018 , 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by John Wang
Hi Scylla, I also asked for this feature before but... can't you just add a autosave every few solves for processing in database/scripting mode? I'd assume it's pretty easy.
The problem there is that we would be overwriting someone's savefile without their consent. There's cases where someone might not want to save, but the software does it anyhow, losing their savefile. For example load a database that has value to you, then create a new database but forget to create a new savefile for it, run the solver and ... your previous database has just been deleted. Or perhaps load a savefile from an external disk, start the solver and remove the disk. One solution here is to save to an internal temporary savefile, but this only works if people know that it's there. So, although it's technically not too difficult, there's a lot of potential conflicts here that do not occur when using the "process folder" feature.

Last edited by scylla; 04-01-2018 at 06:16 AM.
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04-01-2018 , 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Gcm1998
Scylla I think I found a bug. Those 3 database buttons which are usually below the "run solver" button sometimes disappear and I cant access the database
These buttons will only be displayed if you're in database mode.
For this, in the solver menu the tab "Advanced" needs to be selected.
And under "Advanded options" "Activate database mode" needs to be ON.
Is this perhaps not the case?

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04-01-2018 , 06:48 AM
Scylla, Can I post a Telegram group links here?

to discuss GTO plus or share solved files.

or..Do you have an official group?
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04-01-2018 , 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
The problem there is that we would be overwriting someone's savefile without their consent. There's cases where someone might not want to save, but the software does it anyhow, losing their savefile. For example load a database that has value to you, then create a new database but forget to create a new savefile for it, run the solver and ... your previous database has just been deleted. Or perhaps load a savefile from an external disk, start the solver and remove the disk. One solution here is to save to an internal temporary savefile, but this only works if people know that it's there. So, although it's technically not too difficult, there's a lot of potential conflicts here that do not occur when using the "process folder" feature.
I think for people who really would like the feature, a good warning message would simply solve everything and deter other people from touching it.
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04-02-2018 , 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by jasonhau
Scylla, Can I post a Telegram group links here?

to discuss GTO plus or share solved files.

or..Do you have an official group?
This thread may not be the ideal location; within a few days the post would be hard to find.
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04-02-2018 , 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by John Wang
I think for people who really would like the feature, a good warning message would simply solve everything and deter other people from touching it.
The consideration is which problem does this solve, and which problems does it create? It solves losing data due to computer crashes and such, however, if your system is prone to this, then you can get around this by using the "process folder" function instead. The problem it creates is that people's databases may be deleted, which is something that I would really like to avoid. The best that I can think of is to store to a temporary database, although there's some problems with that as well. If you want to store after every solve, then I think that the "process folder" feature is really the best that I can offer here.

Last edited by scylla; 04-02-2018 at 05:23 AM.
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04-02-2018 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
We can round the output to any fraction. However, when it comes to analyzing large data sets, typically the trick is to try and find patterns in the data. When doing so it's generally best to not alter the individual data points. That being said, rounding is not difficult to do, so we can consider it for later releases.
I think rounding strategy is a must have option. It simplifies learning so much. All rival software have it. It would be great if you implement it asap.
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04-03-2018 , 11:25 AM
Hi Scylla, is it possible to add a betsize OTT or OTR without having to resolve the flop on GTO+?
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04-03-2018 , 11:51 AM
just to confirm... this product works fully in offline mode right? I'm going to be on a long plane flight and would like to put in some work.
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