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12-30-2017 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by St3nsy
Still on schedule for release today?
Yes, I'm editing the video at the moment.
These ~10 minute videos actually take quite a bit of time to produce.
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12-30-2017 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
Yes, I'm editing the video at the moment.
These ~10 minute videos actually take quite a bit of time to produce.
Ty
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12-30-2017 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
Yes, I'm editing the video at the moment.
These ~10 minute videos actually take quite a bit of time to produce.
Awesome! Your videos are always clear and very instructive! GTO+/CardRunnersEV?

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12-30-2017 , 01:43 PM
To create a preflop range(an optimal response to an open)in CREV we need only a starting point, right?Like UTG opens 2.5bb with given range and if BTN is defending we need to lock further action at that check point and solve it?
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12-30-2017 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by disident
To create a preflop range(an optimal response to an open)in CREV we need only a starting point, right?Like UTG opens 2.5bb with given range and if BTN is defending we need to lock further action at that check point and solve it?
CREV is a decision tree based calculator. If you enter a decision tree, then it will calculate the EV, equity, etc of every item within that tree. These calculations will require a completed tree. Should you have further questions, then can you please send a savefile to support? This will help making clear exactly which spot you're referring to.

Last edited by scylla; 12-30-2017 at 02:03 PM.
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12-30-2017 , 02:05 PM
I see.That means UTG vs BTN tree all the way to river (showdown) not only preflop.Thanks for the awsome support job u r doing with your products.
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12-30-2017 , 03:28 PM
I have download the v105, looks awesome, thanks for scylla with last 2 month hard work!
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12-30-2017 , 07:27 PM
It appears the website for GTO+ is not reachable, and I have been trying for about 3 hours now. Hopefully it clears up soon. I'm pretty sure it is not me, but I have been wrong before.
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12-30-2017 , 07:31 PM
Its working for me http://www.cardrunnersev.com/gtoplus.html

Nice update Scylla - very nicely designed.
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12-30-2017 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by HAMsmoke
It appears the website for GTO+ is not reachable, and I have been trying for about 3 hours now. Hopefully it clears up soon. I'm pretty sure it is not me, but I have been wrong before.
Please try a proxy or a different browser. The website appears to be up from all possible locations (https://www.uptrends.com/tools/uptime) and from almost all possible browsers (http://browsershots.org/).
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12-31-2017 , 01:11 AM
Hey, I am a total noob when it comes to technical stuff, so pls explain it to me like I am 5 yo

Why is GTO+ so cheap and why are Pio and others WAY more expensive? What can they do what GTO+ can't? Or in other words: what justifies prices 10-20 times as much as GTO+?

Excuse me, but after 10 years in the online poker world, I am always super sceptical when something sounds too good to be true.
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12-31-2017 , 04:01 AM
Love the new release. Hopefully saveable preflop ranges are in the next release, otherwise idk how you guys plan to improve from here. Thanks scylla & GTO+ team!
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12-31-2017 , 04:58 AM
Please make FLH bets with the next update. When are you going launch it actually?
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12-31-2017 , 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by StraightFlooosh
Love the new release. Hopefully saveable preflop ranges are in the next release, otherwise idk how you guys plan to improve from here. Thanks scylla & GTO+ team!
Thumbs up for preflop ranges.
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12-31-2017 , 06:59 AM
Will be perfectly, if we could import all preflop ranges from flopzilla.
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12-31-2017 , 12:01 PM
Hi Scylla ,

tested the new version .

I created a Scenario where OOP has a bluff catch RAnge of 77-TT and IP a polar Range of QQ+,33-66 on a flop 222.

When I set default bets size for both to 60% OOP xc sometimes and xf sometimes .

If I change only the River Betsize for IP to 150% then OOP folds all hands vs a Range bet of IP on the flop.

How can OOP fold hands(77-TT) that are ahead of IP bluffs(33-66) ?

Any explanation would be appreciated
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12-31-2017 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Fasteddie70
Hi Scylla ,

tested the new version .

I created a Scenario where OOP has a bluff catch RAnge of 77-TT and IP a polar Range of QQ+,33-66 on a flop 222.

When I set default bets size for both to 60% OOP xc sometimes and xf sometimes .

If I change only the River Betsize for IP to 150% then OOP folds all hands vs a Range bet of IP on the flop.

How can OOP fold hands(77-TT) that are ahead of IP bluffs(33-66) ?

Any explanation would be appreciated
Can you send a savefile to support please?
Without knowing the exact spot it's always hard to answer these questions.
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12-31-2017 , 12:33 PM
Hi everyone,

Due to me having other obligations today, I will answer all posts tomorrow.

Best wishes for the new year!

Scylla
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01-01-2018 , 07:33 AM
When displaying results why entire decision combos doesn't match with bet/call/fold decision combos combined?
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01-01-2018 , 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by disident
When displaying results why entire decision combos doesn't match with bet/call/fold decision combos combined?
If I understand you correctly, then it should match. The only thing that I can think of is that there may be a tiny difference due to rounding in some of the values.
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01-01-2018 , 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
If I understand you correctly, then it should match. The only thing that I can think of is that there may be a tiny difference due to rounding in some of the values.
After running solver(with 0.75 bet as only option) the results for player 1 range displayed in combos are:Entire decision Combos 224.1 (10.35/213.8) bet75% 104.7 (10.35/94.34)check 224.1 (10.35/213.8)
So solver is suggesting bet 4.58% check 95.4% but entire decision and checking decision are displayed as 224.1 combos.
I choose no rake because I was trying to figure out math model that solver is using but numbers r confusing. Even more in advanced section if i choose 2 possible bet sizes.
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01-01-2018 , 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by disident
After running solver(with 0.75 bet as only option) the results for player 1 range displayed in combos are:Entire decision Combos 224.1 (10.35/213.8) bet75% 104.7 (10.35/94.34)check 224.1 (10.35/213.8)
So solver is suggesting bet 4.58% check 95.4% but entire decision and checking decision are displayed as 224.1 combos.
I choose no rake because I was trying to figure out math model that solver is using but numbers r confusing. Even more in advanced section if i choose 2 possible bet sizes.
Well, 10.35 + 213.8 = 224.15. It's just that it's displayed as 224.1 due to rounding. We can tweak this a bit so that all values have the exact same accuracy, but it does seem to be ok.
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01-01-2018 , 08:19 AM
Oh I see,It is merging.It is betting 10.35 combos out of 104.7 combos out of entire 224.1 combos.Checkin range is merging with entire range.
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01-01-2018 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Fat_Vicious
Hey, I am a total noob when it comes to technical stuff, so pls explain it to me like I am 5 yo

Why is GTO+ so cheap and why are Pio and others WAY more expensive? What can they do what GTO+ can't? Or in other words: what justifies prices 10-20 times as much as GTO+?

Excuse me, but after 10 years in the online poker world, I am always super sceptical when something sounds too good to be true.
Not being able to define ranges postflop, perhaps? I didn't buy it because of that lack (and now I play mainly omahas).
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01-02-2018 , 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by pucmo
Not being able to define ranges postflop, perhaps? I didn't buy it because of that lack (and now I play mainly omahas).
Yes, you can define postflop strategies.
It's explained in the first video here: http://www.cardrunnersev.com/gtoplus.html
Just click on "Lock+Edit decision" and enter any strategies that you like.
It's even possible to set weighted strategies.
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