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10-16-2015 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill is ill
Hey man, I keep getting the same missing dll message on both wine and cross over also. Would you be able to share how you fixed the problem? I have already downloaded the missing dll files and put it into c drive system 32 but that did not fix the issue.
Hi,

Please follow the instructions on the website under "Missing dll?":
http://www.cardrunnersev.com/download.html

Last edited by scylla; 10-16-2015 at 06:55 PM.
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10-17-2015 , 12:09 AM
Just a little feedback on the solver.

It's probably just me. More than a few times now, I've let it run and come back to the PC and hit spacebar to turn on the slept screen and it's started the solver again from scratch when it was finished. Is this action from hitting space necessary or useful?
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10-17-2015 , 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneUltralisk
Just a little feedback on the solver.

It's probably just me. More than a few times now, I've let it run and come back to the PC and hit spacebar to turn on the slept screen and it's started the solver again from scratch when it was finished. Is this action from hitting space necessary or useful?
I assume you mean you press the spacebar to wake up Windows after it has turned off the monitor? Most people would move their mouse in order to do this. Pressing space on a slept screen could result in anything. You could for example delete something, close a window with an important message, give instructions to a message from your virus scanner to (not) delete some file, etc. Or in this case, give an unwanted instruction. So, if you want to wake up your computer, please just move your mouse a bit.
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10-17-2015 , 05:18 AM
Two questions - hoping that those haven't been answered several times (at least I didn't find it):

1) Is there any possibility to add weights to the range-text-input postflop? Like QdQs[0.2]?

2) When I solve a flop scenario with the Nash Solver - is it possible to analyze the solution for a certain turn card? If I set the turn card and calculate again - the flop ranges will be overwritten; only chance would be to "lock" the pre-calculated flop-strategy. Is that possible?

Thanks for any short hints!
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10-17-2015 , 07:50 AM
Hi Scylla - I've been playing with the tree builder - but was wondering where there is a way in which the bet sizes can be based around a % of the pot rather than an absolute amount?? Thanks
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10-17-2015 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Blunderer
Hi Scylla - I've been playing with the tree builder - but was wondering where there is a way in which the bet sizes can be based around a % of the pot rather than an absolute amount?? Thanks
Enter fraction followed by "p" - i.e. "0.7p".
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10-17-2015 , 09:52 AM
Cheers bigfiszh
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10-17-2015 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BigFiszh
1) Is there any possibility to add weights to the range-text-input postflop? Like QdQs[0.2]?
Probably not, cuz it isnt specified here.

Also is there any possibility to specify more then 5 weights for preflop starting range?
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10-17-2015 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by moment
Hi Scylla!

When I (and im sure many others) analyse hands, i like to think of action frequencies in terms of % of all hands , preflop example player opens 50% , gets 3bet and 4bets 20% , which is 10% of all hands.
At the moment i have to divide the answer in the combos menu.

Would it be possible to add this option under relative/absolute mode?

Thank You
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Originally Posted by scylla
Ok, I'll see what I can do.
Any update on this?
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10-17-2015 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BigFiszh
Enter fraction followed by "p" - i.e. "0.7p".
Hhmm - doesnt seem to be working in the wizard?!
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10-17-2015 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Blunderer
Hhmm - doesnt seem to be working in the wizard?!
You should assign variable to the action like this: #1 And then apply formula to that variable like this: #1 = 0.7*P
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10-18-2015 , 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by BigFiszh
1) Is there any possibility to add weights to the range-text-input postflop? Like QdQs[0.2]?
You can enter such weighted strings in the preflop menu (when starting postflop) but not in the postflop menu. I don't think this would work well when entering in postflop conditions, while I also don't really see many practical applications.


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Originally Posted by BigFiszh
2) When I solve a flop scenario with the Nash Solver - is it possible to analyze the solution for a certain turn card? If I set the turn card and calculate again - the flop ranges will be overwritten; only chance would be to "lock" the pre-calculated flop-strategy. Is that possible?
The flop strategy is not overwritten if you enter a turn. However all turn strategies will indeed be overwritten, given that your recalculating the turn. You could of course just save your flop calc in a separate file.

Last edited by scylla; 10-18-2015 at 06:08 AM.
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10-18-2015 , 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by inlighter
Probably not, cuz it isnt specified here.

Also is there any possibility to specify more then 5 weights for preflop starting range?
If you enter it as a string then any number of weights can be used.
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10-18-2015 , 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Blunderer
Hi Scylla - I've been playing with the tree builder - but was wondering where there is a way in which the bet sizes can be based around a % of the pot rather than an absolute amount?? Thanks
The tree builder works with absolute amounts. I'm sure there's lots of ways to expand the input for future versions, but right at the moment I prefer to keep things basic.
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10-18-2015 , 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
The tree builder works with absolute amounts. I'm sure there's lots of ways to expand the input for future versions, but right at the moment I prefer to keep things basic.
No problem, thanks for getting back to me
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10-18-2015 , 08:21 AM
Thanks for the answers! New question (just getting deep into it right now):

You mentioned in one of the videos that the dEV is measured in $$. Correct? Now, I have a scenario that I stopped when dEV reached ~1 (0.99 precisely).

Then I calculated the EVs and it shows an EV for OOP player of $197.91. Now, I saved that scenario and calculated the maxEV options for either player (each starting with the presaved "freshly" solved scenario) and the new EVs for OOP where 197.96 (when choosing mEV for OOP) and 197.58 (when maximizing IP).

That means, the max EV difference is $0.33? This is way less than the $1 I expected from the dEV display - am I misunderstanding sth.?
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10-18-2015 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BigFiszh
Thanks for the answers! New question (just getting deep into it right now):

You mentioned in one of the videos that the dEV is measured in $$. Correct? Now, I have a scenario that I stopped when dEV reached ~1 (0.99 precisely).

Then I calculated the EVs and it shows an EV for OOP player of $197.91. Now, I saved that scenario and calculated the maxEV options for either player (each starting with the presaved "freshly" solved scenario) and the new EVs for OOP where 197.96 (when choosing mEV for OOP) and 197.58 (when maximizing IP).

That means, the max EV difference is $0.33? This is way less than the $1 I expected from the dEV display - am I misunderstanding sth.?
The Max Exploit tool will only work for the last phase where the board card is known. So if the tree you're talking about also has play on unknown boards then the Max Exploit tool is not applied to that play.
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10-18-2015 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
The Max Exploit tool will only work for the last phase where the board card is known. So if the tree you're talking about also has play on unknown boards then the Max Exploit tool is not applied to that play.
Great - thanks!
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10-19-2015 , 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
If you enter it as a string then any number of weights can be used.
scylla, I tried this string [90]AKs-A8s[/90],[80]A7s-A2s[/80],[70]KQs-K8s[/70],[60]K7s-K2s[/60],[50]QJs-Q2s[/50], [40]J2s-J4s[/40], [30]T3s-T5s[/30] but seems its cutting string for last 2 weights. probably I am doing something wrong. Could you please point to my mistake?

Thanks.
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10-19-2015 , 10:22 AM
Scylla,

What would shpould be targed dEV and how that would impact results.

For example if I just want freaquencies? Exact lines?
T.y.
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10-19-2015 , 10:47 AM
Skylla I run some calculations and it set ranges.

Now ranges are CUSTOM.

Now for better visibility I would like to visualize that better by making couple of conditions like
TP+,
Draws+
Backdoors.


Can I do That?
If not, maybe it would be possible to copy CUSTOM and just add some additional Condition on top?

Like CUstom + TP+
CUSTOM + Draws
CUSTOM + All hands for rest of the hands?

t.y.

Maybe it could be something like additional Checkbox "Raw Data", where it stores all equilibrium calculation data and then you just add those conditions?
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10-20-2015 , 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by inlighter
scylla, I tried this string [90]AKs-A8s[/90],[80]A7s-A2s[/80],[70]KQs-K8s[/70],[60]K7s-K2s[/60],[50]QJs-Q2s[/50], [40]J2s-J4s[/40], [30]T3s-T5s[/30] but seems its cutting string for last 2 weights. probably I am doing something wrong. Could you please point to my mistake?

Thanks.
This will only work for the preflop menu if a hand starts postflop.
The normal preflop menu has a maximum of 5 weights.
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10-20-2015 , 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Ninja666
Scylla,

What would shpould be targed dEV and how that would impact results.

For example if I just want freaquencies? Exact lines?
T.y.
If you just want the EV of the strategy then all you'll need is to be within a few % of the pot. I haven't seen the EV change significantly below that.

This is what the solver is primarily intended for, given that it will allow you to fill in the tree to whichever extend you like and then let the solver fill in the remaining play.

It requires entering the desired actions and locking them. If, like in the tree below, any locked action is only preceeded by other locked actions then being within a few % of the pot will be fine. When the solver fills in play the frequencies of its results may still chance below a few %, but the EV of each locked action won't.



If you want the frequencies to converge as well then you'll need a lot more accuracy, somewhere below 1%.
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10-20-2015 , 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Ninja666
Skylla I run some calculations and it set ranges.

Now ranges are CUSTOM.

Now for better visibility I would like to visualize that better by making couple of conditions like
TP+,
Draws+
Backdoors.


Can I do That?
If not, maybe it would be possible to copy CUSTOM and just add some additional Condition on top?

Like CUstom + TP+
CUSTOM + Draws
CUSTOM + All hands for rest of the hands?

t.y.

Maybe it could be something like additional Checkbox "Raw Data", where it stores all equilibrium calculation data and then you just add those conditions?
As explained in the update video 4 on the solver (http://www.cardrunnersev.com/equilibrium.html) what you can do is set conditions like TP+, Draws, etc and then lock them individually. Then add an unlocked condition below it and run the solver. The solver will figure out the equilibrium play under the assumption that TP+, Draws must be in the action:

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10-21-2015 , 05:45 AM
Have troubles with the newest beta. Got the dll-error and installed that crevist-stuff but still get the error when starting (did reboot, de-install/reboot/install, ...).
If I go back to version before it works fine. Anything that i'm missing?
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