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Originally Posted by gtrunner57
I was just playing around with the relatively new feature of unexploitable pushing range/optimal calling range and found what I would consider to be a strange result. If you are in the SB vs BB preflop 30BB deep and decide you just want to shove all in or fold, it is unexploitable to have 76s as part of your range? Can anyone else put some context to this result - I find it very hard to believe.
Part of your range is value, part of it is blufs.
BB will choose his calling range as the
optimal one versus your pushing range.
The blufs in your range will widen BB's calling range, which will again add value to your strong hands.
It's all a tough balancing act and it appears 76s is part of it.
The reason why 76s is one of the pushing hands is most likely because as a bluffing hand it performs reasonably well against overpairs and high cards, giving it at least some equity when called.
If you feel that you can come up with a solution that is significantly better than the one found by StoxEV, give it a try.
Step 1: Select the sb's range for pushing as you see fit.
Step 2: Set BB's call range to all hands and his fold range to all hands
Step 3: Perform the EV run with F7
Step 4: Hover over BB's call range and press Alt+D to remove all -EV hands, giving BB an optimal calling range
Step 5: Recompute with F7
It's possible to come up with solutions that are very very slightly better than the one found by StoxEV, but I've never found anything that performs noticably better.
Also, given the way the algorithm works, I don't see how it could ever be possible for a significantly better solution to exist.
Last edited by scylla; 12-01-2008 at 07:45 AM.