Thanks a lot. Top class support as usual.

Hey,

I would like to do a script to know the maximum exploiting counter strategy on the flop-turn-river.

Is a such script possible?

I dont know how select the max exploit fonction for all streets postflop. When i pick a player and choose all decisions, it just calculate the max exploit for the river.

I would appreciate some help.

Regards,

SpS_Zen.

Hey,

What does Cap stand for in the "Start new tree" Section?
Thanks in advance

Ok, I'll make a note of it and look into it later.

Well, the Max Exploit function only works on the last street where the board cards are known. I could look into doing it on an unknown board, although ... the whole thing would be a black box. The program will tell you that a certain action will make you $5.73 for perfect play on a random turn, but you'll have no way of knowing what that play is. Providing this information will not add much, since the human brain can't process 52 different scenarios of turns. Finally, it's not mathematically possible to apply the max exploit tool for previous board cards, since there's no way of simulating what would happen on the next board card.

Do you mean under "Blinds/rake"?
Cap is the maximum rake that is taken out of the pot.
So if rake is 5%, cap is $3 and the pot is $300, then that would come down to $15 or rake. However, given that this exceeds the $3 cap, only $3 is taken out of the pot.

Thanks for your reply. So, for HUSNGs I can just set this to 0?

Yes, or you could set rake to 0.
Any which one will do.

Hey Scylla,

I've been watching a few training vids of people using CardRunnersEV but they appear to be running a different version to me. Is it possible to switch over from alpha/beta without needing a new authentication code? Also, how do I know which one I am running?

Thanks in advance.

Hello again,

I'm completely new to CREV and want to know if it's possible to get a player's best resonse calling range vs his opponent's shoving range (or vice versa) on the river.
Here's an example:

Effective Stacks: 75BB
Preflop:
Villain raises to 2.5BB, Hero calls 1.5BB
Flop: J 6 3 (Pot: 5BB)
Hero checks, Villain bets 3BB, Hero raises to 9BB, Villain calls
Turn: J (Pot: 23BB)
Hero bets 15BB, Villain calls
River: 2 (Pot 53BB)

There are 48.5BB behind on the river.

Villain opens top 80% pre, Hero defends the following:
AA-KK,66-22,AJs-A2s,KQs-K4s,QJs-Q6s,JTs-J7s,T9s-T7s,98s-96s,87s-85s,76s-74s,65s-64s,54s,AJo-A2o,KQo-K8o,QJo-Q8o,JTo-J8o,T9o-T8o,98o,87o. This range only contains 25% of slowplayed AA and KK.

Hero's river starting range: AdAc,AhAc,AsAc,6d6s,6d6c,6s6c,3d3h,3d3c,3h3c,3s3c, AhJh,AcJc,KhJh,KcJc,QhJh,QcJc,QsTs,JhTh,JcTc,Qs9s, Ah8h,Qs8s,Qs7s,Ts7s,9s7s,8s7s,Qs6s,Ah5h,5d4d,5c4c, Ah2h,AsTd,AsTh,AsTc,KdJh,KdJc,KhJc,KsJh,KsJc,KcJh, QdJh,QdJc,QhJc,QsJh,QsJc,QcJh

Villain's river starting range:
JJ-77,55,AdAc,AhAc,AsAc,KdKc,KhKc,KsKc,QdQc,QhQc,QsQc ,6d6c,3d3c,A6s,A3s,KJs,K6s,QJs,Q6s,J2s+,64s-62s,Ts9s,Ts8s,9s8s,Ts7s,9s7s,8s7s,Ts6s,9s6s,8s6s,7 s6s,Ts5s,9s5s,8s5s,6s5s,Ts4s,9s4s,8s4s,A6o,K6o,Q6o ,J4o+,T6o,96o,86o,76o,65o

For this example, I'm assuming that Villain calls a river shove with any hand that has showdown value:
JJ-77,55-44,AdAc,AhAc,AsAc,KdKc,KhKc,KsKc,QdQc,QhQc,QsQc,6d 6c,3d3c,A6s,A3s,KJs,K6s,QJs,Q6s,J2s+,64s-62s,Ts6s,8s6s,7s6s,6s5s,A6o,K6o,Q6o,J4o+,T6o,96o,8 6o,76o,65o

Now I want to know what Hero's best response is in this spot, i.e. which hands he should shove to maximally exploit his opponent.

Here's what my tree looks like, I'm sure there are some mistakes here and there:

http://imgur.com/Is9MpOA

My tree says that it's the best response to jam all of hero's hands but I know for certain that it's not. The correct answer would be to shove with ~70% of hands.

I'd be very thankful if you could upload your tree or at least explain how to compute this. Thanks a lot, maybe I'll find the answer myself in the meantime watching the video tutorials.
Another thing that I don't understand is why there are explanation marks and question marks in front of every EV.

Hey,

I should precise that in my first post: cards for the flop-turn-river are known. The preflop ranges are known as well.

Lets say btn vs bb, i build a tree with a specific board, i enter how i think bb will react. And i would like to know what the max exploit of btn.

I don't know how to procede to do that (with a script or something else).

Regards,

SpS_Zen.

Hi KuntXX,

If you mail your savefile to support I'll take a look at it.
Getting everything from a worded description just makes it too likely for there to be a miscommunication.

In regards to your other question, I notice that your hand is in tournament mode. The explanation marks and question marks deal with some factors related to that. It's a complex story that deals with determining an origin with which the other actions need to be compared. For more details, please see the instructional videos on tournaments under "Help->Video manual"; it's in the section called "Tournaments".

Tournaments calculations are discussed more in depth in the written manual here: http://www.cardrunnersev.com/manual/contents.html
See "Part 4: Tournaments". There's also some example calculations in there, which you may find instructive.

If the board cards are known up until the river then it's only possible to determine the max exploit strategy on the river. It's not possible to do so on the preflop/flop/turn since no information is available as to what would happen on consequent board cards (the only information that is available is for the flop/turn/rivers that are given; nothing is said for the other possible flops/turns/rivers; the program can't just make this information up).

A script or anything else won't help you here. You're trying to do something that's mathematically impossible. The required information is not available.

In most cases your registration key will work for both the alpha and the beta. Should you need a new key you can just mail support.

The recommended version is the beta.
It can be downloaded here: http://www.cardrunnersev.com/download.html

Please see the screenshots on the main page of the website: www.cardrunnersev.com. Those screenshots are from the beta. The latest version is v2.9.2.

hey scylla, my ranges are failing to transfer from my flopzilla to my CREV. I have two copies of crev and flopzilla and i can't transfer my flopzilla ranges to CREV on my desktop, and i can't do the same either on my laptop. I downloaded the most recent updates. Maybe it has something to do with Hold em EQ on zilla? Both worked perfectly before. Hey Also my F7 short cut stopped working on both, i use this feature a lot as a mouse button shortcut can you look into this as well?

Ah, I see.
That is due to some changes in the export format for the Flopzilla beta.
CardRunnersEV hasn't been configured yet to import that new format.
I expect an update to be available for both programs by the end of the month that should fix that.

As for the F7 shortcut not working, I'm not sure what could cause that.
It works fine on my system, so it's not an easily reproducable issue; possibly even something due to how your system is configured.

kk i'll figure it out

Thanks for you excellent support, really enjoy working with the program. Expect my savefile to be sent to support later that day.

I have had issues with HEM2 blocking hotkeys because it uses F6-F9 for HUD functions. Hud Settings->Hotkeys to disable, or else close HEM2 when using CREV. Could also be another program but HEM2 is obv pretty common for poker players

Scylla: Wondering if it would be possible to increase the number of layers? 13 seems like a logical choice instead of 10.

Thx for the input but I resolved the issue. I have a mechanical keyboard and just had to download my drivers and it started working perfectly again

Ok, I'll look into it.
There may actually be quite a lot of coding involved here (not 100% sure) so I can't do this in the short term.

You definetelly overcomplicate everything. Even if that number will be increased you are not going to use it.

There are boards where I would like to. Usually double wheel boards w/ many different straight possibilities like 528 (T) or similar (since wheel cards on higher boards are often easily bucketed together). Anyways, not a high priority things but I thought it might be as easy as changing a variable (looks like not)

Hey anyone, I looked on the web but can't find a solution. I wanted to know how to change the DEFAULT file for opening and saving location for CREV. It sucks when i'm going in and out of the program and have to keep fiddling around to get to my folder. Thanks!

Hey Scylla,

I'm trying to write a script to model the following situation. Pot = 100, Stacks = 100, Heads Up on river (full ranges)

Player 1 can either jam all-in or check, and then Player 2 can either jam all-in or check.

Ideally, I'd like to find the equilibrium of this game and then once I have a script I will then alter the ranges and analyse the results.

Thank you. Is this possible?