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03-24-2013 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MDN
I understand why we reset to all hands in locations 1 and 2 but why arent' we also resetting BB's hands? The way it is, EV runs to find out top % EV hands in locations 1 and 2 use BB's range left there from the last step instead of all hands, so we end up with a different point of reference every time.
Because we're trying to act optimally versus BB's actions.
That means that we'll also need to adapt our hand ranking according to BB's latest strategy.
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03-24-2013 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
It should be
Set variable(1, EV(1))

If you use
Set variable(#(1), EV(1))
then the value for variable 1 will be retrieved.
So if that value is 50, then the line will read
Set variable(50, EV(1)),
which is not possible.
Thanks
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03-24-2013 , 12:43 PM
Fwiw, providing support for writing scripts and coming up with algorithms falls outside of my responsibility. The instructional videos for scripts are intended solely to inform users on how the script commands work. Equilibria were just the backdrop for me to explain the commands. I'm now getting a LOT of questions on what to do in tree X and ... I really can't extend support to helping people with their efforts. I wish I could, and I've never minded that much so far, but I just don't have the time to read through all the scripts and trees that people are sending me.

CREV is simply a calculator. Like this. It's mý responsibility that all the buttons work. But I can't go on assisting people with their research in the extent that it's currently going. There's simply only 24 hours in a day and I would need more than that. I'm only human.


PS: This is not directed at anyone who asked a question just recently. I'm just finding it harder and harder to get any work done recently and I think I'll need to draw a line here. Every time I spend an hour answering someone's question, I'm unable to spend that hour on development.
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03-24-2013 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by melfil
When I hover my mouse pointer over a hand range I see a mini picture over the hands.
If I double click on the hand range I see the big picture.

When I look at videos people get the big picture by just hover over the hand range.

Why do I need to double click to see it?

EDIT: I need to EV run after I have run the script before it will show.
That mini picture is just there to assist you in seeing what's in that range.
When you double-click the condition you'll be brought to the editor so you can edit the range.

When you perform an EV run then you'll get a popup with the EVs of the individual starting hands instead of the mini picture. Again, to edit the range, double-click.
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03-24-2013 , 03:20 PM
Could you make the script editor appear in a new, hopefully non-modal window, so it would be possible to a) look at the tree while scripting and b) add the missing script check points I, well, missed from the tree, without closing the editor in the meanwhile?

Also, since the scripts often go together with a specific tree, the system of saving the scripts in the CREV folder -separate from the trees- could possibly benefit from a rethinking? I'd like to be able to tie a script to a tree more easily, both for personal archiving purposes and possibly sharing the stuff with someone.
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03-24-2013 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by pasita
Could you make the script editor appear in a new, hopefully non-modal window, so it would be possible to a) look at the tree while scripting and b) add the missing script check points I, well, missed from the tree, without closing the editor in the meanwhile?
I think that's a bit hard to do at this point.
It's a fine suggestion, but it's kind of incorporated into the software now.
One thing I could possibly try is to "hack" the software so that a second instance is started in script editing mode.
Anyhow, I'll take it under consideration.

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Originally Posted by pasita
Also, since the scripts often go together with a specific tree, the system of saving the scripts in the CREV folder -separate from the trees- could possibly benefit from a rethinking? I'd like to be able to tie a script to a tree more easily, both for personal archiving purposes and possibly sharing the stuff with someone.
Ok, I'll see what I can do here.
I don't see any reason why this wouldn't be possible.
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03-24-2013 , 04:00 PM
Thanks for looking into those. The graph window would be nicer non-modal too. Make a new graph window for each new graph, making comparing stuff easier without a need for Excel?

Also -and I know the script editor is at a concept level only- pretty pretty please make there big buttons for Save and Exit, and very preferably a "Save and Exit".... clicking at those tiny texts isn't ideal. My wrist told me to add one more "pretty" in there btw.
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03-25-2013 , 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pasita
Thanks for looking into those. The graph window would be nicer non-modal too. Make a new graph window for each new graph, making comparing stuff easier without a need for Excel?
I think that should be doable.
I'll add it as an option in the graph window.

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Originally Posted by pasita
Also -and I know the script editor is at a concept level only- pretty pretty please make there big buttons for Save and Exit, and very preferably a "Save and Exit".... clicking at those tiny texts isn't ideal. My wrist told me to add one more "pretty" in there btw.
Well, you are correct in saying that the entire menu is indeed still a concept.
I´ll throw your suggestion in the mix though.
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03-26-2013 , 02:35 PM
Hi Skylla, I have just bought a new computer, because my previous one died. I tried to use the old regkey.dat file to register the program on my new computer. It won't allow it because it's registered to my old machine. I only want to use the program on one (my new) computer. Obviously, you can understand my reluctance to have to buy the program again. Is there anything else I can do?

Cheers!
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03-26-2013 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by babaar
Hi Skylla, I have just bought a new computer, because my previous one died. I tried to use the old regkey.dat file to register the program on my new computer. It won't allow it because it's registered to my old machine. I only want to use the program on one (my new) computer. Obviously, you can understand my reluctance to have to buy the program again. Is there anything else I can do?
Hi Babaar,

All you need to do is contact support and request a new key.

Cheers,

Scylla
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03-28-2013 , 11:28 AM
Is it possible to workout the EV of defending with certain hands from the BB vs BTN open, without seeing the flop (100bb stacks, 2bb open).

I try but it keeps saying error no end of hand found.
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03-28-2013 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MicroManic
Is it possible to workout the EV of defending with certain hands from the BB vs BTN open, without seeing the flop (100bb stacks, 2bb open).

I try but it keeps saying error no end of hand found.
The "no end of hand found" error will typically occur if there's hands in a player's range for which you have not defined an action. Please just send your savefile to support and I'll take a look.

Cheers,

Scylla
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03-30-2013 , 10:56 AM
Hello Scylla,

I need some help to understand some of the features of CREV.

I want to filter for flops I continue on (my range consists on only hand) based on the amount of equity I have on that flop.

I am trying to use the alt+f feature to do it, but the results seem odd to me. When I ask it to filter for top 25% equity, it filter a total of 16% of hands.

When I try to filter for equity > 0.5, it returns me empty.



How can I achieve my goal?

Any kind of help is appreciated.


Thank you,

Joao
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03-30-2013 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by joaoavf
Hello Scylla,

I need some help to understand some of the features of CREV.

I want to filter for flops I continue on (my range consists on only hand) based on the amount of equity I have on that flop.

I am trying to use the alt+f feature to do it, but the results seem odd to me. When I ask it to filter for top 25% equity, it filter a total of 16% of hands.

When I try to filter for equity > 0.5, it returns me empty.
The Filter options are intended for filtering the top/bottom % of a range.
So if you're using one specific hand, it will indeed not work.
Also, the filter options will only have any meaning if the board is known.
If you're working on an unknown board, you're just filtering for the results averaged over all flops.

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Originally Posted by joaoavf
How can I achieve my goal?
You cóuld probably write a script to achieve this goal.
To learn how to work with scripts, please watch the instructional videos that are linked to in the beta's startup screen.
You should probably create a loop within which you're drawing random flops, after which you use the Top% command (more specifically the "equity is at least" option within it) to assign your hand to one line or another.

Scripts are one of the more advanced feature though.
They may not be for everyone.

Also, I'd probably need to see a savefile of your tree to make sure I understand what you're talking about.
Please send one to support with a brief explanation of what you're looking to do if you want me to take a look.

Last edited by scylla; 03-30-2013 at 03:05 PM.
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03-30-2013 , 03:31 PM
Game is HU at 20bb effective stacks. Hero holds a specified hand in the BB and is facing a min-raise from the SB. The frequency which the SB min-raises is the only variable. Hero has 2 possible decisions now: 3bet all-in, or fold. When hero 3bets all-in, SB makes a perfect call vs his holding. Hero wants to know at what frequency must SB be minraises for shoving to break even with the specified hand. Is this possible, If so could you direct me where to go to learn more about how to get this answer?
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03-30-2013 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dappoker
Game is HU at 20bb effective stacks. Hero holds a specified hand in the BB and is facing a min-raise from the SB. The frequency which the SB min-raises is the only variable. Hero has 2 possible decisions now: 3bet all-in, or fold. When hero 3bets all-in, SB makes a perfect call vs his holding. Hero wants to know at what frequency must SB be minraises for shoving to break even with the specified hand. Is this possible, If so could you direct me where to go to learn more about how to get this answer?
Yes, that is possible.
You could either do it manually, but that would be a bit time consuming.
Or you could write a script that automates this.
I'll post in more detail tomorrow.
I'd do it now, but unfortunately I don't have the time atm.
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03-31-2013 , 06:57 AM
I bought recently cr ev . I just can't use postflop condition menu .I want to make a filter where a player calls with at least one pair and gutshot or more and when i ran the program his range it's 0% because all goes into fold range (i have fold on the last row ).It only works when i write the range myself using another program like equilab .
It's a known bug or i don't know how to use it ? I have the last beta .
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03-31-2013 , 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by tueur ivre
I bought recently cr ev . I just can't use postflop condition menu .I want to make a filter where a player calls with at least one pair and gutshot or more and when i ran the program his range it's 0% because all goes into fold range (i have fold on the last row ).It only works when i write the range myself using another program like equilab .
It's a known bug or i don't know how to use it ? I have the last beta .
It sounds like you haven't entered the condition correctly.
Could you send a savefile to support please?

Also, here's a link to the instructional videos on the postflop menu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sET1JECtOlI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Z4I725-Rw
(not released yet)
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03-31-2013 , 09:01 AM
I managed to find what was wrong .If i select tp+ and gs+ the hands selected has to be tp+ and gs+ in the same time .
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03-31-2013 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dappoker
Game is HU at 20bb effective stacks. Hero holds a specified hand in the BB and is facing a min-raise from the SB. The frequency which the SB min-raises is the only variable. Hero has 2 possible decisions now: 3bet all-in, or fold. When hero 3bets all-in, SB makes a perfect call vs his holding. Hero wants to know at what frequency must SB be minraises for shoving to break even with the specified hand. Is this possible, If so could you direct me where to go to learn more about how to get this answer?
Ok, I've made a YouTube video about this on my second channel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clCR3p4-ScU

To download the files used in this video, please use this link:
www.cardrunnersev.com/savefiles/minraising.rar
Save the file minraise.txt to the /scripts subdirectory for the software to detect it.
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03-31-2013 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
Ok, I've made a YouTube video about this on my second channel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clCR3p4-ScU

To download the files used in this video, please use this link:
www.cardrunnersev.com/savefiles/minraising.rar
Save the file minraise.txt to the /scripts subdirectory for the software to detect it.
Wow! Thank you for that detailed explanation. That answers my question perfectly.
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03-31-2013 , 09:35 PM
Hi,
I am a new user with a quick question.

I tried the file simple.stx


I am struggling to understand how both SB and BB have positive EV. Can you please explain? Shouldn't optimal play give them both 0 EV, or if one of them had +EV the other would have to be -EV

Thanks. Loving this program so far.
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03-31-2013 , 09:50 PM
I noticed in your tutorial that your software ran your script much faster than mine. Is there a setting that can boost my speed?
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03-31-2013 , 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by outwards
Hi,
I am a new user with a quick question.

I tried the file simple.stx


I am struggling to understand how both SB and BB have positive EV. Can you please explain? Shouldn't optimal play give them both 0 EV, or if one of them had +EV the other would have to be -EV

Thanks. Loving this program so far.
Never mind. I got this. (I understand now that posting the blinds does not count in the EV computation, so the pot is 1.5 the two players are fighting over)
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04-01-2013 , 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by dappoker
I noticed in your tutorial that your software ran your script much faster than mine. Is there a setting that can boost my speed?
I'm afraid that's just the power of post-production editing.
I believe the original computation time was 17 seconds and I trimmed it down to 8.5 seconds to speed the vid up a bit.
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