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so, can i tinker around with the software at all before purchasing it?? I have installed it and I have the app open. I have been assigned a hardware ID. Can i familiarize/use the program at all, or not until after i pay?

Hi p2 dog,

CardRunnerEV offers an infinite trial, so you can test it as long as you see fit.
The main restriction of the trial is that you can only create trees of a maximum size of 6 nodes, however, the trial is plenty to get a good impression of what the software is capable off.

Cheers,

Scylla

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12-11-2012 , 08:22 AM

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scylla

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Originally Posted by bronx.system

i will rewatch your videos again and if cant get it to work i will email support thanks

Ok!

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12-11-2012 , 12:18 PM

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Bollo

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 175

(Free trial) I get the "If your seeing this" pop up; dissappears before I can maximise and read the rest. Crev launches but I can't select hands from the matrix.

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12-11-2012 , 01:02 PM

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scylla

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Originally Posted by Bollo

(Free trial) I get the "If your seeing this" pop up; dissappears before I can maximise and read the rest. Crev launches but I can't select hands from the matrix.

I don't believe there is a "If you're seeing this ..." popup.
Nor does CREV have a matrix (well, there ís one in one of the menus, but it sounds like you're talking about something else).
Could you post a screenshot?
Or mail one to support?

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12-11-2012 , 01:32 PM

#2505

Bollo

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 175

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Originally Posted by scylla

Disregard my gibberish, I may be seeing things, reinstalled and all's well.

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12-12-2012 , 09:46 AM

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SamiHyppie

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 590

Hi! Im playing on a mac, and at the microstakes. Do u recomend Flopzilla for me or what's the difference between Flopzilla and Cardrunners Ev Calculator?!

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12-12-2012 , 01:29 PM

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scylla

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Originally Posted by SamiHyppie

Hi! Im playing on a mac, and at the microstakes. Do u recomend Flopzilla for me or what's the difference between Flopzilla and Cardrunners Ev Calculator?!

Both Flopzilla and CardRunnersEV are software for Windows, so first of all you'd need to see if you can get them to run on a Mac.
Other than that, I would recommend that you just use Flopzilla's trial period first to see if it's something that you want.

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12-12-2012 , 04:04 PM

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Klakteuh

banned

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,975

Hey. Does CREV and Flopzilla work with Windows 8 ? Thanks

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12-12-2012 , 04:27 PM

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scylla

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Originally Posted by Klakteuh

Hey. Does CREV and Flopzilla work with Windows 8 ? Thanks

I've never had any issues myself, nor have I had reports of issues with Windows 8. So, as far as I can tell, there's no conflicts.

Anyhow, you can also just try for yourself by installing their trial versions.

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12-12-2012 , 10:38 PM

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pkmikhail2

newbie

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 29

One more question.
How do I define pp< 3rd pair on the flop? If I use pp< 5th pair it's empty.
Thanks in advance

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12-13-2012 , 07:35 AM

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scylla

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Originally Posted by pkmikhail2

One more question.
How do I define pp< 3rd pair on the flop? If I use pp< 5th pair it's empty.
Thanks in advance

Select "One pair" and "Pocket>fourth card".
Of course ... there ís no fourth card on the flop ...
I think I'd better chance those names so that they make more sense ...

Thank for the question+feedback!

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12-13-2012 , 05:22 PM

#2512

Karganeth

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,305

Is there any chance of you improving the threading used in the program? When simulations are running the GUI thread is strangled and gets no CPU time at all. I can't cancel a simulation once it starts running because the cross does nothing. The program just keeps going until its finished the simulations.

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12-13-2012 , 05:25 PM

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scylla

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Originally Posted by Karganeth

Could you send a savefile to support please so I have a clear idea of what sort of a spot you're talking about?

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12-16-2012 , 01:13 PM

#2514

JudgeHoldem1848

banned

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,474

CREV beta won't work either, it's saying that it failed to check registration. Alpha works though. Please try to help me resolve this soon. I use all three of these programs constantly and I can't be without them for long.

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12-16-2012 , 01:16 PM

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scylla

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Originally Posted by JudgeHoldem1848

If you're not using a firewall, then you're automatically using the Windows Firewall, which can indeed cause all sorts of weird issues. To solve this, please set an exception for all of CardRunnersEV's .exe files.

If you're having trouble doing this, or need more detailed instructions, please send an e-mail to support.

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12-17-2012 , 02:36 PM

#2516

3eBjUnKiE

enthusiast

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 74

Im trying to graph the following scenario. Game is HU format. Hero minraises with a given range on the SB and villain shoves all in with a given range. I would like to be able to vary the stack sizes to see how that affects hero EV of calling. How would I go about this?

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12-17-2012 , 04:04 PM

#2517

johnboy7541

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Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 434

Is it possible to remove a player entirely after you have already started a tree? I use the Import hand function to import a hand and it will be say 3-way on the flop where one player folds. Then say I want to analyze say a turn situation. Now because it was 3-way at one point I can't use the math engine. I basically want to know so I can use the math engine for hands that I import that had a third player at some point.

Edit: now that I think about it I could just edit the hand history to edit out the third player before importing in these situations, but I'm still wondering if this is possible.

Last edited by johnboy7541; 12-17-2012 at 04:07 PM. Reason: .

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12-17-2012 , 04:35 PM

#2518

scylla

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Originally Posted by johnboy7541

Hi JohnBoy7541,

No, it's not possible to remove a player after the fact, since after a tree is established it's hard to tell if a player is unimportant enough that he can just be removed. I might consider it as a future option, but currently it can not be done.

To get around this, I would for now indeed recommend just editting that player out of the hand history.

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12-17-2012 , 04:39 PM

#2519

scylla

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Originally Posted by 3eBjUnKiE

If Hero's calling range is also fixed, then this is a simple matter of making a graph.

However, if you mean that you want hero to make an optimal call (call all his +EV hands and fold the -EV ones) then you'll need to write a script.

Please let me know which of the two you're looking for and I'll tell you how to do it.

PS: Scripting only works in the registered version though.

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12-17-2012 , 09:54 PM

#2520

3eBjUnKiE

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Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 74

Wow, if i could get both solutions that would be great. I have the registered version so scripting would be a problem. Thanks.

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12-18-2012 , 10:39 AM

#2521

scylla

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Originally Posted by 3eBjUnKiE

Wow, if i could get both solutions that would be great. I have the registered version so scripting would be a problem. Thanks.

Ok, I've made a youtube video about this on my second channel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9f8ud9See0

For more instructions on scripts, unexploitable shoving, finding equilibria, and more, please see the instructional videos that are linked to in the beta's startup screen (click on "Videos"). You can download the beta here: http://www.cardrunners-ev-calculator...henewbeta.html

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12-19-2012 , 10:02 PM

#2522

Xela

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Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,163

Visiting my family for a few days and have my CREV licence on my home desktop. Is there any way I can use the full CREV on my family computer without having to purchase an extra licence for a few days (eg. by temporarily transferring my licence)?

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12-20-2012 , 07:32 AM

#2523

scylla

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Originally Posted by Xela

Sure, that's not a problem.
Just send a request to support for that.

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12-20-2012 , 05:07 PM

#2524

3eBjUnKiE

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Thanks for answering my question so thoroughly.

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12-20-2012 , 05:51 PM

#2525

Jeltsin

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 146

Is it possible to choose equity% instead of a handrange as a condition? For example somebody 3bets and cbets the flop, I want the range to continue to have at least 20% equity.

It's quite a lot of work, especially if you use very wide ranges.

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