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07-13-2020 , 10:24 AM
Hi,

I have a bunch of pio ranges (from the modern poker theory advanced pack), but do not have pio.

Is there a way that I can import pio ranges without owning piosolver to GTO+?
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07-13-2020 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Danshiel350
Hi,

I have a bunch of pio ranges (from the modern poker theory advanced pack), but do not have pio.

Is there a way that I can import pio ranges without owning piosolver to GTO+?
To import pio ranges into GTO+:
1) Create a directory /pio in its directory (most likely C:/program files/GTO)
2) Copy the pio ranges into this directory
3) Start GTO+
4) Go to “Settings->Import predef ranges" in its menu
5) Select “pio” in the first toggle
6) Click on “IMPORT RANGES” (see screenshot)

The ranges will now be stored to the file newdefs3.txt in the subdirectory /config of GTO+.

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07-14-2020 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
To import pio ranges into GTO+:
1) Create a directory /pio in its directory (most likely C:/program files/GTO)
2) Copy the pio ranges into this directory
3) Start GTO+
4) Go to “Settings->Import predef ranges" in its menu
5) Select “pio” in the first toggle
6) Click on “IMPORT RANGES” (see screenshot)

The ranges will now be stored to the file newdefs3.txt in the subdirectory /config of GTO+.

Can GTO+ import cfr files?

For some reason after trying to import cfr ranges from PIO the predefined ranges and my own custom ranges are now gone from the right panel. Tried closing and opening the software and they are still gone.

Last edited by crowned; 07-14-2020 at 11:51 AM.
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07-14-2020 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by crowned
Can GTO+ import cfr files?

For some reason after trying to import cfr ranges from PIO the predefined ranges and my own custom ranges are now gone from the right panel. Tried closing and opening the software and they are still gone.
Your ranges in GTO+ are stored in /config/newdefs3.txt. Backups of this file are regularly stored in /config/backups. To restore your ranges to a previous state, rename one of the ranges in /config/backups to newdefs3.txt and store it in place of the /config/newdefs3.txt file.

Should you need any assistance in importing ranges into GTO+, then please send both your newdefs3.txt file, and the ranges that you're trying to import to support and I will see if I can manage to import the ranges for you.

Last edited by scylla; 07-14-2020 at 01:33 PM.
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07-14-2020 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
Your ranges in GTO+ are stored in /config/newdefs3.txt. Backups of this file are regularly stored in /config/backups. To restore your ranges to a previous state, rename one of the ranges in /config/backups to newdefs3.txt and store it in place of the /config/newdefs3.txt file.

Should you need any assistance in importing ranges into GTO+, then please send both your newdefs3.txt file, and the ranges that you're trying to import to support and I will see if I can manage to import the ranges for you.
Lol. Thanks. I ****ed it up though by uninstalling everything. No worries

Can GTO+ import cfr files from Pio though? couldn't get what you said to work.
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07-14-2020 , 04:00 PM
can you solve for 3 handed situations? I know it's possible in CREV but also in GTO+?

actually the tree wizard is not showing up when I right click after starting a 3 handed simulation in CREV

Last edited by p0ker_n00b; 07-14-2020 at 04:08 PM.
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07-14-2020 , 06:15 PM
I set up a scenario where 4bet huge with AA vs a fish

I gave the fish a fairly wide defending range and only game myself AA as I wanted to test what the solution would show - but it doesn't seem fairly accurate. Has me betting 62 into a pot of 104 100% of the time even though I gave 20%, 40%, 60%, 80% bet sizes for each street.

Stacks are 200 bb's deep and hero is IP.

Any thoughts on this?
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07-14-2020 , 07:30 PM
ah, sorry it was also a monotone flop and I flopped top set with the AA
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07-14-2020 , 11:37 PM
Is there a way (or perhaps in the future) for ranges with weights to show up as part colored and the rest being black? So if we have A4o selected with 50% weight, it would be 50% colored and 50% black.

Perhaps even an option for percentages to be displayed directly on the ranges?
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07-15-2020 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by crowned
Lol. Thanks. I ****ed it up though by uninstalling everything. No worries

Can GTO+ import cfr files from Pio though? couldn't get what you said to work.
No, it's not possible for us to support savefiles from other products.

Last edited by scylla; 07-15-2020 at 02:56 AM.
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07-15-2020 , 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by p0ker_n00b
can you solve for 3 handed situations? I know it's possible in CREV but also in GTO+?

actually the tree wizard is not showing up when I right click after starting a 3 handed simulation in CREV
GTO+ is for heads-up play.
3-way play would require resources that almost none of our users will have.
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07-15-2020 , 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by p0ker_n00b
I set up a scenario where 4bet huge with AA vs a fish

I gave the fish a fairly wide defending range and only game myself AA as I wanted to test what the solution would show - but it doesn't seem fairly accurate. Has me betting 62 into a pot of 104 100% of the time even though I gave 20%, 40%, 60%, 80% bet sizes for each street.

Stacks are 200 bb's deep and hero is IP.

Any thoughts on this?
Do you mean that you feel that a different bet size should be used? In GTO, any bet size performs nearly exactly the same as any other size. You can test this for yourself by building the same tree, but for different bet sizes. After that, check OOP's overall EV (his EV below the table in the very first decision; see the screenshot below). As you will find, this overall EV will be almost exactly the same for all trees. As a consequence, within any given dEV, many different configurations are possible that all lead to the same performance. The apparent preference for the current bet size is therefore mostly just a coincidence; any other bet size (or configuration of multiple sizes) would have worked as well.

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07-15-2020 , 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Cal Gore
Is there a way (or perhaps in the future) for ranges with weights to show up as part colored and the rest being black? So if we have A4o selected with 50% weight, it would be 50% colored and 50% black.

Perhaps even an option for percentages to be displayed directly on the ranges?
Ok, I will consider it for future releases.
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07-15-2020 , 04:30 AM
Hi Scylla, I want to move my GTO+ to another computer how do so? My email is dockadams333@gmail.com
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07-15-2020 , 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Waking Up
Hi Scylla, I want to move my GTO+ to another computer how do so? My email is ...
You can simply request a new key for GTO+ here: www.gtoplus.com/request-a-key
It will be sent to you within a few minutes of your request.
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07-15-2020 , 05:24 PM
If I move my solved hands and databases from my SSD to HDD will I see a difference in performance? Specifically for playing against solution, will my turns/rivers (simple storage) solve slower?
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07-15-2020 , 08:19 PM
Also for DLing updates, the link in the program just links to the DL page, and you just install it like that, like you would a new program? Will it integrate into my current version or I'll have 2 versions of the software?
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07-15-2020 , 10:16 PM
Scylla, I'm uploading this again as a reminder of the ability to add the "Right click" filter on the raise and call tabs.

On the other hand, I wanted to ask you if the distribution frequencies could be organized from higher to lower and vice versa (circle in red)

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07-16-2020 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Mates.
Scylla, I'm uploading this again as a reminder of the ability to add the "Right click" filter on the raise and call tabs.

On the other hand, I wanted to ask you if the distribution frequencies could be organized from higher to lower and vice versa (circle in red)
Ok, I will consider it for future releases.
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07-16-2020 , 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfunnywobbl
If I move my solved hands and databases from my SSD to HDD will I see a difference in performance? Specifically for playing against solution, will my turns/rivers (simple storage) solve slower?
When active, trees are stored in RAM; your disc is not used while solving.
So using either SSD or HDD will not affect solving speed.
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07-16-2020 , 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfunnywobbl
Also for DLing updates, the link in the program just links to the DL page, and you just install it like that, like you would a new program? Will it integrate into my current version or I'll have 2 versions of the software?
The update simply replaces the files, so there will be only one version.
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07-16-2020 , 05:53 PM
Hello, I had a question ..
Assuming a BTNvBB same board.

For example, if the BB knows that BTN never overbet the turn, when adding it from the tree editor, shouldn't it alter the bb's flop call, fold and raise frequencies?

Would there be a difference in bet, call and raise frequencies if from the beginning I already have the overbet integrated in the tree before solved?
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07-17-2020 , 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Mates.
Hello, I had a question ..
Assuming a BTNvBB same board.

For example, if the BB knows that BTN never overbet the turn, when adding it from the tree editor, shouldn't it alter the bb's flop call, fold and raise frequencies?

Would there be a difference in bet, call and raise frequencies if from the beginning I already have the overbet integrated in the tree before solved?
In GTO, all bet sizes perform very closely to each other. So removing a bet size on the turn will most likely not significantly affect the EVs in a previous part of the tree. Therefore, it does not sounds entirely surprising that an edit on the turn would not make a noticable difference on the strategies on the flop.
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07-17-2020 , 01:01 PM
Hi scylla,

1. I know it has been asked alot of times but can you consider adding ICM structure feature for solving late stages MTT's spots?

2. Given the fact that GTO+ does not have this kind of feature nor any support in solving MTT's spots do you think it's efficient to solve spots from early stages MTT's where ICM doesn't play a role? If so, should I just solve it as usual or should I build a tree in SNG mode and it will have the same effect as early stages tournament?

Thanks.
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07-17-2020 , 05:19 PM
Hey Scylla,

I have some ranges I bought that are in PDF format with a range and each combo broken down by raise/fold/call %. It is super tedious for me to enter each range into GTO+ or FZ, even though I can save them and reuse it. Any advice or suggestions on better ways to input this?
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