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05-13-2020 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by p0ker_n00b
Hello, need help please



CO opens, BB defends, srp

It looks to me like the solution is saying the EV of x'ing and betting TT on the T76 texture IP is exactly the same EV showing as 10.17. This seems very strange to me.

Obviously vs weaker regs and recs I'm never x'ing but let's take one of the top regs in a 500NL pool for instance. How can x'ing back TT here net us the same EV as cbetting? I'm kind of confused by this.

Thanks for any clarity
When a solution is mixed, then the EV for both actions will be exactly the same, and the solver will be indifferent between which action to choose. The frequency that is used is in order to set up ranges for the later parts of the hand. It does not mean that the solver prefers one action over the other; they both have the same EV. This will apply to any mix in a GTO solution.

As to why TT is being checked back here, this is not a question to which I can give an answer. Hands are typically assigned in order to set up ranges for later parts of the hand so that the opponent can never know exactly which types of hands you're holding. Apparently, it's important to have the near-nuts in your checking range as well. This will both give more value to your weaker range (such as draws, which can more easily be semi-bluffed), as well as the TT itself, which is pretty well disguised. The situation is too complex for me to give a full breakdown though.
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05-13-2020 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by p0ker_n00b
I have another question please

Imagine an EP vs BTN cc situation where BTN is fishy and has a fairly wide cc range

Flop is AJ9r and Hero has AA. The solution suggests that BTN should be raising our flop cbets with a huge range of 25% - things like 9Ts, some underpairs, a lot of Jx and KQ/KT combo's - kind of confusing why it would do that - but obviously nobody would be raising 25% like this

What I was able to do was edit the BTN's range to mostly call all those combo's (assuming passive fish) but the EV's didn't seem to change for the Hero EP strategy.

So the question I guess would be - after we edit the flop decision closer to what we think the villain would actually do - how can we re run the simulation to take into account for this change?
For this, lock the edited decision and run the solver again under "Run solver".
The GTO solution will be calculated within the given restrictions.

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Originally Posted by p0ker_n00b
I tried "play against the solution" but I can't access that it's greyed out - any other ideas? Thanks.
"Play against the solution" is only available for trees that have been solved.
So if you solve the file under "Run solver" then the icon should become available.
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05-13-2020 , 06:15 PM
Hi Scylla now that I begin to grasp and solve simple toy games I understand how valuable solvers are.
The 'play vs solution' feature is astonishing and 100% that I will buy your product once I've finished my GTO poker book.

Is possible to change the colors of the actions? Like bet= red check= yellow and so on?

Finger crossed for the night mode of GTO+
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05-14-2020 , 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by forCarlotta
Hi Scylla now that I begin to grasp and solve simple toy games I understand how valuable solvers are.
The 'play vs solution' feature is astonishing and 100% that I will buy your product once I've finished my GTO poker book.

Is possible to change the colors of the actions? Like bet= red check= yellow and so on?

Finger crossed for the night mode of GTO+
The action colours are stored in /config/settings.txt under [ACTION COLORS]. Windows does not directly allow you to edit this files in C:/program files though, so copy it to a directory such as C:/tmp to make changes.
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05-14-2020 , 09:28 PM
https://gyazo.com/68c5fe35d67065ee8f0be8f7ee08fdd2
Hi,
So i have these ranges in Pio(They are in .TXT), i already have the "Ranges" folder in the same folder as GTO+ but no ranges are shown, also when i try to import it reads "FAILED TO IMPORT RANGES"
1) How can i paste this ranges in GTO+?
2) where are the ranges in GTO+ storaged?

Last edited by carlos243; 05-14-2020 at 09:39 PM.
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05-15-2020 , 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by carlos243
https://gyazo.com/68c5fe35d67065ee8f0be8f7ee08fdd2
Hi,
So i have these ranges in Pio(They are in .TXT), i already have the "Ranges" folder in the same folder as GTO+ but no ranges are shown, also when i try to import it reads "FAILED TO IMPORT RANGES"
1) How can i paste this ranges in GTO+?
2) where are the ranges in GTO+ storaged?
1)
- Create a directory /pio in GTO+'s directory (most likely C:\Program Files\GTO)
- Copy your pio ranges into that directory
- Go to "Settings->Import preflop ranges"
- Set the top option to "pio" and click on "IMPORT RANGES"

2)
The ranges for GTO+ are stored in /config/newdefs3.txt
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05-15-2020 , 09:43 AM
How can we compare ev of DIFFERENT turns and view the strategy of different turns on the hand matrix, on the fly?
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05-15-2020 , 10:00 AM
Would it be possible so that when you mouse over the colored Bet1, Bet2, BetX, Check boxes above the Current Selection of lock&edit that the corresponding ranges could be shown in the hands chart above?
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05-15-2020 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BigOT
Would it be possible so that when you mouse over the colored Bet1, Bet2, BetX, Check boxes above the Current Selection of lock&edit that the corresponding ranges could be shown in the hands chart above?
Ok, I will consider it for future releases.
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05-15-2020 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dejavudu666
How can we compare ev of DIFFERENT turns and view the strategy of different turns on the hand matrix, on the fly?
For this, go to the turn report.
A new output mode in v129 will show the distribution in actions for every turn.

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05-15-2020 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
For this, simply create a tree where you only bet (you can use the editor to remove the "Check").
After that, build a database from that tree.
Just found this from Google. Thanks a lot man, and congratulations for this software, this is really amazing to use.
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05-15-2020 , 06:41 PM
https://gyazo.com/83161d8a3ca77cdad6eaef51a5135e7b
1) "dEV" numbes is same as "Nash dist." in Simple postflop?
2) What is the difference between basic and extensive storage?
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05-15-2020 , 10:23 PM
Hi. Is it possible to recalculate the GTO now by forcing the 100% cbet flop with the 33% bet size for 44 subset flops?

http://prntscr.com/shpm7g
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05-15-2020 , 10:54 PM
I just bought GTO+ and I really like it. Its a lot easier to use than other solvers.
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05-16-2020 , 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by carlos243
https://gyazo.com/83161d8a3ca77cdad6eaef51a5135e7b
1) "dEV" numbes is same as "Nash dist." in Simple postflop?
2) What is the difference between basic and extensive storage?
1) dEV is indeed simply the Nash distance.
2) In Extensive storage turn data is saved. In Basic storage it's recalculated when you navigate to a turn line; this will take a few seconds, whereas navigating to turn lines is instant with Extensive storage. If you want to use "Play against the solution" then Extensive storage is probably best. The savefiles are much smaller for Basic storage though. So if you're creating a database of a hundred trees, then in Extensive storage it may take >1GB, whereas for Basic it's only a few dozen MB.
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05-16-2020 , 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by eduargentina
Hi. Is it possible to recalculate the GTO now by forcing the 100% cbet flop with the 33% bet size for 44 subset flops?

http://prntscr.com/shpm7g
For this, edit your tree and remove the bets that you don't want.
After that, clear the database and build a new one from the edited tree.
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05-16-2020 , 06:15 PM
What does the buttom "with only 2 bets left, get the money in smoothly" does?
In which spots do you recommend using it?
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05-16-2020 , 10:20 PM
Is there a way to set up GTO+ to run a bunch of HH I saved by scripting (i.e. a mix of different boards, ranges, trees, stack sizes)?
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05-17-2020 , 01:12 AM
So i have noticed that "playing against solution" even if i make a mistake the solution would keep playing against me.
1) How is that possible? Does the solver makes a node lock right there?
2) And if it does, how does that node lock looks like(for example i make a none existing [0% freq] 25% bet in river, how do the other nodes in river adjust]? *i would also like this one ansewred in the case that i do my own node locking*
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05-17-2020 , 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by carlos243
So i have noticed that "playing against solution" even if i make a mistake the solution would keep playing against me.
1) How is that possible? Does the solver makes a node lock right there?
2) And if it does, how does that node lock looks like(for example i make a none existing [0% freq] 25% bet in river, how do the other nodes in river adjust]? *i would also like this one ansewred in the case that i do my own node locking*
If you want the solver to stop playing when you make a mistake, then turn on "Training mode".

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05-17-2020 , 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by powertsp
Is there a way to set up GTO+ to run a bunch of HH I saved by scripting (i.e. a mix of different boards, ranges, trees, stack sizes)?
You can save all files that you want solved to a single directory.
After that, use the "Folder" icon to process all files in that directory.

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05-17-2020 , 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by carlos243
What does the buttom "with only 2 bets left, get the money in smoothly" does?
In which spots do you recommend using it?
It means that if the players are close to being all-in, the solver will finish up the play with two perfectly sized geometric bets. This feature is particularly useful for deep-stacked play. It helps in ensuring that the players make bets that are in relation to the stack-to-pot ratio.
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05-17-2020 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
You can save all files that you want solved to a single directory.
After that, use the "Folder" icon to process all files in that directory.

Thanks!
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05-17-2020 , 09:41 AM
I solved a subset, now I am wanting to simplify the trees.

After I re-solve a tree, I can't figure out how to add the new tree back to the database.

I have tried:
On left side of interface... Database: "+ Add current tree to database". This has not worked.
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05-17-2020 , 10:57 AM
I believe you talked about this somewhere but I can't remember...

Get this message about not enough ram.

https://imgur.com/a/7onKBH7

I have 32gb available on this computer, am I reading it correctly that it needs 13.5gb more but only 12.1gb is available?

I'm building deep stack with different sizings so I know some trees will be quite large.

Thanks
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