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Hi Scylla. I know there have been a few requests about weighted flop implementation going back at least 6 months. Do you think it is not a very useful feature, or is it tricky to implement?
I'd love your input because this is the only real feature (so i can model a fairly accurate range of flops) that makes me go back to piosolver at times instead of GTO+. Am i overvaluing the importance of having the flops weighted instead of just using the linked piosolver "complete game" flop selection?

It's not especially difficult and the code for this has been written at this point. We're now working on creating some of our own default subsets. Can you please check back in about a week or so?

Last edited by scylla; 02-04-2019 at 05:57 PM.

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02-04-2019 , 05:55 PM

#7652

scylla

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Originally Posted by jancsigyerek

Hey scylla,

How does the "EV" number work exactly?
Eg. eff. stack is 100, and Player1 EV is 5. How much bb/100 it is?
Eg. eff stack is 50, and Player1 EV is 5. How much bb/100 it is?

It means $5 per hand. Please do note though that the concept of bb/100 only applies to prior the posting of the blinds. It does not apply to after the blinds have been posted, given that some of the money that comprises the EV was put into the pot by the player himself. Also, the spots where for example the flop is reached actually only rarely occur, and not consistently 100 hands in a row (which is a requirement for bb/100).

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02-04-2019 , 06:21 PM

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Carlton Banks

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Originally Posted by scylla

It's not especially difficult and the code for this has been written at this point. We're now working on creating some of our own default subsets. Can you please check back in about a week or so?

Amazing, thanks Scylla!

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02-08-2019 , 05:40 AM

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rrrrudboyyyy

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Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 10

Hi Scylla

I have a question concerning the check raise box in GTO+

Can we write it "2,5x" or we can only write a percentage like "50% of pot" ?

And if only percentage method is possible, will the both methods system be implemented in future versions ?

Thanks in advance and thanks for your amazing software.

(Excuse my english)

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02-08-2019 , 05:45 AM

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scylla

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Originally Posted by rrrrudboyyyy

You can enter both "2.5x" and "50%".
Just make sure to enter "2.5x" and not "2,5x".

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02-08-2019 , 08:00 AM

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rrrrudboyyyy

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Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 10

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Originally Posted by scylla

You can enter both "2.5x" and "50%".
Just make sure to enter "2.5x" and not "2,5x".

Thanks a lot Scylla for your quick response.

Be well.

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02-08-2019 , 06:14 PM

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x64asm

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Hello, I have a problem with node-locks.

I have set a node-lock for the 10.08bb raise.
So I have 4.19% raise, 45.5% call and 50.30% fold. But when I start to solve the tree then after the calculation is finished I can see that the frequencies for the raise tree have been changed. Why is that happening ? I mean I have locked this node.

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02-09-2019 , 06:05 AM

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scylla

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Originally Posted by x64asm

IP's "Bet 1.32" action is unlocked. As a result, he will change his strategy there and a different range will reach the locked node. Other than that, you will also see a minor change due to OOP changing his strategy as well. Although this does not affect the combos in IP's range, it will change the frequencies a bit due to card removal.

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02-09-2019 , 09:29 AM

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x64asm

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Originally Posted by scylla

Ok thx. But now I have another problem :-(

I would like to say that the solver should call only with Qs Ts
But when I click on it then it marks also Qd Td. How can I say that I want only Qs Ts?

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02-09-2019 , 06:06 PM

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scheduling

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Hey,

I have been trying to get use to GTO+ and its features, one that I still do not know what it does exactly is the "card removal" one.

What does it do exactly? I understand it removes cards, but which ones?!

thanks,

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02-10-2019 , 05:06 AM

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scylla

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Originally Posted by scheduling

If villain has a lot of aces in his range, then it will be less likely for you to hold an A yourself. If card removal is ON then this will be taken into account when calculating the frequencies. If it's OFF then the software will just use the combos to calculate the frequencies.

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02-10-2019 , 05:14 AM

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scylla

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Originally Posted by x64asm

Ok thx. But now I have another problem :-(

I would like to say that the solver should call only with Qs Ts
But when I click on it then it marks also Qd Td. How can I say that I want only Qs Ts?

On a 7h2s2d board s and d are essentially identical. GTO+ takes advantage of this and will treat s and d hands as being the same. By doing this it can achieve a speedup in calculations of up to 3x. In order not to lose this symmetry when editing a range, QdTd and QdTs will be considered to be the same hand (which they are; there's no reason to play one different from the other). There's workarounds for turning this OFF, but if at all possible, I would strongly recommend taking advantage of symmetry whereever possible. If the range were to be edited to that only QsTs is changed, then the solver can no longer achieve this speedup.

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02-10-2019 , 06:59 AM

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scheduling

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Originally Posted by scylla

But it count as the villain is range 1 ou 2? Or will it remove hands from both ranges?

Do you know if PIO does the same?

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02-10-2019 , 01:21 PM

#7664

scylla

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Originally Posted by scheduling

But it count as the villain is range 1 ou 2? Or will it remove hands from both ranges?

It will work everywhere for both ranges.

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02-11-2019 , 08:14 AM

#7665

Vitamin

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I think there should be an option to edit the ranges up and down the list for rearrangement *In GTO+

Last edited by Vitamin; 02-11-2019 at 08:14 AM. Reason: *

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02-12-2019 , 08:52 AM

#7666

NoriuBritvos

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Hi scylla,
Is it possible to move river decision with specific range from GTO+ to CREV? or GTO+ turn range to new GTO+ and start from turn play with a new betsizings and lines?

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02-12-2019 , 03:20 PM

#7667

scylla

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Originally Posted by NoriuBritvos

Hi scylla,
Is it possible to move river decision with specific range from GTO+ to CREV? or GTO+ turn range to new GTO+ and start from turn play with a new betsizings and lines?

We can consider this for later releases, but right at this moment this is not available.

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02-12-2019 , 03:21 PM

#7668

scylla

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Originally Posted by Vitamin

I think there should be an option to edit the ranges up and down the list for rearrangement *In GTO+

Can you be more specific which menu you're referring to?
For the predefs this is already possible by dragging+dropping.

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02-12-2019 , 04:30 PM

#7669

burneyj5

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I play live and my casino takes 10% rake for every $10 in the pot with a max of $5 taken out. I don't know if it would be possible, but it would be nice to be able to tell the software to take rake in intervals as well as the current percentage format.

For example, if the pot was $35, only take out $3 rake instead of $3.50.

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02-12-2019 , 11:10 PM

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numberonedonk

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Anyway you can make it so we can sort the database here

https://imgur.com/a/s6s9Aeh

Like the tree here

https://imgur.com/a/33OUNy9

Thanks

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02-13-2019 , 07:00 AM

#7671

Vitamin

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Is it possible to code a better weighing system for gto+? notice that I have ATo and some other yellow hands at 10% and some at 100% yet there is no difference. It would be ideal to have a weighing system that depending on what weight u want it cuts it literally as the picture shown below.

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02-13-2019 , 03:31 PM

#7672

scylla

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Originally Posted by Vitamin

Ok, I will see what I can do here.

Last edited by scylla; 02-13-2019 at 03:40 PM.

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02-13-2019 , 03:32 PM

#7673

scylla

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Originally Posted by burneyj5

We can consider it, although an interval system would be rather hard to set up for the user, whereas, in my experience, the small error in rake will make almost no difference in the calculations.

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02-13-2019 , 03:36 PM

#7674

scylla

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Originally Posted by numberonedonk

Anyway you can make it so we can sort the database here

https://imgur.com/a/s6s9Aeh

Like the tree here

https://imgur.com/a/33OUNy9

Thanks

Ok, I will see what I can do here for later releases.

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02-13-2019 , 05:27 PM

#7675

XXI

stranger

Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 12

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Originally Posted by scylla

It's not especially difficult and the code for this has been written at this point. We're now working on creating some of our own default subsets. Can you please check back in about a week or so?

Hi, scylla. How's the work coming with update?

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