Does flopzilla come with CREV when purchasing CREV?

We can write it, however, bet sizing is almost meaningless when compared to the quality of play. The latter has an absolutely huge influence on your winrate, whereas the first has almost no influence at all. When it comes to sizing, any size will have an almost identical performance as any other size. Quality of play is really the important thing to be focussing on.

We don't really discuss development plans, so unfortunately I can't answer your question.

No, Flopzilla is a separate piece of software.

Ye, I've read post #6823 so I absolutely understand that "quality of play > specific bet sizing", but if it's not a problem for you guys to write it somewhere in the future then I would really aprreciate it. <3

I am just that kind of a guy that needs to know, if solver would probe his OESD with 33%,66 or 135% of the pot etc. Even though far more important for his ev is to just probe with the correct range of hands, I got it.

Much love, cheers.

Did you do something for this?
Or you can show me how I can select backdoor straight.
TY

Scylla, what does this box do?



I was hoping I could input a percentage and it would lock for that, rather than have me do it manually, but that doesn't appear to be the case.

Not (yet) at this particular moment. We will look into it further in the near future, but the challenge here is that almost any hand is a backdoor straight draw. And each backdoor straight draw adds only a very tiny amount of equity. An alternative approach would be needed if we were to consider providing this as an option that can actually be applied in practical spots. That being said, if the analysis that you're interested in is down to such a small level where backdoor straight draws sway a decision, then you may want to consider using GTO analysis instead. Manually setting up ranges down to a level of such a small fraction of equity would require a considerable amount of effort. With GTO analysis, all tiny details are taken care of for you automatically.

For this just enter 70 under "Bet" and 30 under "Check". If, like in your screenshot, the sum of the values does not add up to 100 then the software will correct these values and convert them into weights. For example, if you were to enter 1 under "Bet" and 3 under "Check" then the percentages will be set as 25% versus 75%.

Help....I'm struggling to work out how to export the flops to a file in GTO+ after I have created a set of flops in database mode. I've tried copying at pasting an address and adding a file name eg.

C:\Program Files\GTO\flops\test.txt

and nothing is happening - what am I getting wrong?

Try entering just test.txt.
This should store the file to the subdirectory /flops
Should this not work, then try creating a directory C:/tmp and entering C:/tmp/test.txt

In the past when I clicked on Database / Display results in graph: i could see the Actions too, eg. how muh we bet / check on a texture. I could even copy it to Excel.

Now it doesnt show it, just: "Tree, Equity, EV"

https://image.ibb.co/bWW56p/gtoplus_problem.png

How could I see the freq of the "Actions" too in the right table?

I think that in this particular tree "Player 1" only has a single action to choose from.
For this reason the distribution of actions will be displayed for "Player 2".

Sadly not, Player1 and Player2 has actually 4 actions to choose from.
It doesnt show anything for Player2 neither.

This is the exact same tree, just with slightly different ranges, and works fine:

https://image.ibb.co/e2Zvp9/gtoplus_problem2.png

Its so weird. I have other database with 70+ solution and it shows fine there.

Alright, problem solved:
it turned out my database contain different postflop trees, thats why it didnt show this on the graph.
All the solutions need to contain the same actions in order to show that

Thanks anyway!

Hi,

It would be interesting to display a chart where player1/player2 combos are displayed given a situation for GTO+!


https://gyazo.com/4833875a9c536d12beba85d9d9a6cdb4

Thanks!

Hi Scylla,

Backdoor straights have much more influence on the GTO solution than what you seem to suggest. On the flop, they can play as tie breaker between playing a hand and folding it, as much as backdoor flush draws. And in real life, they even have better implied odds because a straight from a backdoor is more likely to be called than a flush from a backdoor flush.

As Janda mentionned in his book ANLH, backdoor draws have hand signaling property, you know on the turn if they are good or not, which make them easier to play than small/medium pairs.

A backdoor straight where you have 2 hole cards(57s) making a 3 straight with the board(Q62r) has similar equity than a any given backdoor flush. You have 48 (16x3) turn/river combos that can make the straight and a backdoor flush has usually 45 (10x9/2) turn/river combos, for a bit more than 4% equity each. But what is great about this equity is that there 16 cards on the turn that will turn your backdoor straight into a straight draw and 8 of them is for an OESD!

For GTO solutions, where you split your combos between Value/Bluffs/Air, backdoor straights or/and flush often make great Bluffs to tag along Value hands, which is why they would be useful in GTO+. But they are not made equals, so I would suggest to split them in 3 groups: (1) BD straight with three consecitive cards (2) BD straight with one Gap (3) Other BD straight.

A+

What I said was that manually setting up filters for a quantity that has such a small influence on equity is difficult to achieve at best. An alternative approach would be needed if we were to consider providing this as an option. Also, I said that if the analysis that you're interested in is down to such a small level where backdoor straight draws sway a decision, then you may want to consider using GTO analysis instead.

Ok, I'll see what I can do here.

When building the decision tree are bets calculated as a % or actual dollars? Do you have plans to add multiple bet sizes?

Under the "Advanced" tab it's %. Multiple bet sizes are already available. For example enter 50,75. See the screenshot below.

Is there any videos of people or pros inputting ranges + flops etc into GTO+ and analyzing the information? I'm new to solvers and learn a lot better by watching someone else do something from scratch and talking about it rather than watching tutorials. Though the tutorials are helpful of course.

If you look on youtube there's a whole series by Adam Wheeler.
I haven't had the time to watch it yet myself, but I've heard good things.

I have seen it and agree. It is really good to start and get deeper into the different use cases and develop a work flow. great Series

On my YouTube channel I have posted a couple of GTO+ study sessions and plan to post more.. I can’t post the channel here in the thread I don’t think, but PM me and I’ll let you know how to find it.