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Aha, this was my problem. I forgot about rake on future monies put into the pot, something I hadn't considered. Now I understand better how playing more hands at smaller stakes is much worse vs. larger stakes.

ThanX for the help!

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02-18-2018 , 08:20 PM

#6652

StraightFlooosh

adept

Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 761

Outside of manual entry, is there anyway to easily port our PIOsolver ranges over to GTO+ with the new predef menu?

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02-20-2018 , 12:48 AM

#6653

mojo6911

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,979

Can you make it to where we can paste in ranges from Equilab directly into GTO+? It doesn't like the formatting. I have to paste into Flopzilla, then copy from there, due to the formatting.

Equilab:

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22+, A2s+, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, 65s, AJo+, KQo

vs.

Flopzilla:

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AA-22,AKo-AJo,KQo,AKs-A2s,KQs-K9s,QJs-Q9s,JTs-J9s,T9s,98s,87s,76s,65s

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02-20-2018 , 05:37 AM

#6654

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,353

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Originally Posted by StraightFlooosh

Outside of manual entry, is there anyway to easily port our PIOsolver ranges over to GTO+ with the new predef menu?

No, we currently support the newdefs2.txt format from Flopzilla and CREV and the newly created newdefs3.txt format.

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02-20-2018 , 05:39 AM

#6655

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,353

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Originally Posted by mojo6911

Can you make it to where we can paste in ranges from Equilab directly into GTO+? It doesn't like the formatting. I have to paste into Flopzilla, then copy from there, due to the formatting.

Equilab:

22+, A2s+, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, 65s, AJo+, KQo

vs.

Flopzilla:

AA-22,AKo-AJo,KQo,AKs-A2s,KQs-K9s,QJs-Q9s,JTs-J9s,T9s,98s,87s,76s,65s

Sure, not a problem.
It appears that for some reason we overlooked the AJo+ input format.

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02-20-2018 , 03:05 PM

#6656

arya1110

stranger

Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 8

Hi scylla,

I am interested to import some trees to CREV from GTO+, is it possible to do so? Or is the feature planned to be implemented in future release of GTO+?

I found it much easier to create trees in GTO+ than CREV. Will CREV adding similar methods to build trees in the future?

Thanks for your time.

Kind regards,
Arya1110

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02-21-2018 , 02:30 AM

#6657

bballwiz

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,296

Is there plans to record more gto+ videos for the YouTube channel?

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02-21-2018 , 05:34 AM

#6658

Matawazi

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 543

Can you please explain how aggregate frequencies are calculated?

For instance, I just solved 10 flops on which Player 2 cbets below 70%:

Yet, aggregate frequency for Player 2 cbet shows 71.8%:

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02-21-2018 , 05:55 AM

#6659

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,353

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Originally Posted by arya1110

Hi scylla,

I am interested to import some trees to CREV from GTO+, is it possible to do so? Or is the feature planned to be implemented in future release of GTO+?

No, this is not possible. CREV requires the full tree, with all river data, while GTO+ does not store turn+river data (it recalculates it on the fly).

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Originally Posted by arya1110

I found it much easier to create trees in GTO+ than CREV. Will CREV adding similar methods to build trees in the future?

We can consider it, but for the moment this is not where our focus will be.

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02-21-2018 , 05:56 AM

#6660

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,353

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Originally Posted by bballwiz

Is there plans to record more gto+ videos for the YouTube channel?

We don't really discuss plans, so I won't be able to answer this question.

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02-21-2018 , 05:58 AM

#6661

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,353

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Originally Posted by Matawazi

Can you please explain how aggregate frequencies are calculated?

For instance, I just solved 10 flops on which Player 2 cbets below 70%:

Yet, aggregate frequency for Player 2 cbet shows 71.8%:

Well, it's definitely odd, although stranger things have happened math-wise.
Can you send a savefile to support please?

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02-21-2018 , 08:41 AM

#6662

John Wang

newbie

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 16

Hi, whatever you did in the 1.09 patch, the old files turn not calculating bug has been resolved

Just want to drop by and say thanks

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02-24-2018 , 09:22 PM

#6663

twisterk

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 202

For GTO+ I would like a button to export the range into a string text, like the CTRL+ALT+T function on Flopzilla

It would be great if you could make this happen

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02-25-2018 , 03:50 AM

#6664

mojo6911

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,979

How does scripting work? I haven't see anything on scripting with GTO+

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02-26-2018 , 02:13 AM

#6665

jasonhau

enthusiast

Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 51

hey scylla, on turn and river report, we can check player 1 ’s bet frequency but can’t check player 2’s. can add a function to see that: when player1 checks, show player 2’s bet frequency or when p1 checks show p2’s call and raise frequency?

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02-26-2018 , 03:44 AM

#6666

jasonhau

enthusiast

Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 51

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Originally Posted by jasonhau

last Sentence should be：when p1 bet show p2’s call and raise frequency.

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02-26-2018 , 04:40 AM

#6667

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,353

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Originally Posted by twisterk

For GTO+ I would like a button to export the range into a string text, like the CTRL+ALT+T function on Flopzilla

It would be great if you could make this happen

Ok, I'll see what we can do here.

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02-26-2018 , 04:41 AM

#6668

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,353

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Originally Posted by mojo6911

How does scripting work? I haven't see anything on scripting with GTO+

GTO+ offers the ability to create databases of several trees and make comparisons between them. This is demonstrated in the second video here: http://www.cardrunnersev.com/gtoplus.html

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02-26-2018 , 04:44 AM

#6669

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,353

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Originally Posted by jasonhau

The problem with creating overall reports for player 2 is that for example if player 1 has two bets and a check, then there's 3 points where player 2 gets to react. So this data can not be summed into a single report.

Only showing a report for a given action for player 1 unfortunately does not have much meaning. The problem here is that if player 1 checks 10% on a 2h board, but 90% on a As board, then you're comparing spots where player 2 is up against a completely different range. These spots can not really be compared.

Last edited by scylla; 02-26-2018 at 04:55 AM.

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02-26-2018 , 06:19 AM

#6670

getmeoffcompletely

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,670

Is there any way to use weighted flop subsets? In order to get the most accurate ev flops need to be weighted differently. For example the 12 flop subset looks like this with the numbers after signifying the weight.

2s3sAd:1.11
2s7dJc:1.42
2s9dTc:1.36
3s4dTs:1.57
3s7d9c:1.15
4s5s7s:1.15
4d6sKs:1.59
5d6sQs:1.1
5s8dQc:1.65
6sJdAs:1.72
8s9sKd:1.32
8dKsAs:1

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02-26-2018 , 10:58 AM

#6671

Fasteddie70

newbie

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 21

Hi Scylla

Does your answer for the Turn/ River Reports mean that you won't even implement such Reports if there is only one Betsize for OOP Player ?

I think this reports are crucial for a lot of players . Not to solve a specific Spot but to find out when a Player Pool differs from GTO Frequencies in every branch of the tree .

PIO offers all this information on Turn and Rivers at any point of the tree for every player so it seems they dont share your opinion that this information is not acuurate enough or useless .

I really like your product but when this information will not be available I
have to think about other options for me

Thanks

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02-26-2018 , 07:32 PM

#6672

twisterk

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 202

An AVERAGE row at the bottom would be nice.

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02-27-2018 , 03:28 AM

#6673

Matawazi

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 543

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Originally Posted by twisterk

An AVERAGE row at the bottom would be nice.

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02-27-2018 , 07:24 AM

#6674

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,353

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Originally Posted by Fasteddie70

Hi Scylla
Does your answer for the Turn/ River Reports mean that you won't even implement such Reports if there is only one Betsize for OOP Player ?

The information is present in the engine, so if our users want to see it, then we can display it.
For this I think it's better to just provide text based output though.

Last edited by scylla; 02-27-2018 at 07:39 AM.