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11-23-2017 , 06:54 AM
I haven't check yet,does SNG solver works with last update?
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11-23-2017 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by disident
I haven't check yet,does SNG solver works with last update?
Yes, SitAndGo functionality is available as of v102 of GTO+.
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11-24-2017 , 03:34 PM
Is it possible to display EV as BB instead of % of the prize pool/prize money in Tournament Mode?
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11-25-2017 , 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SelfishGhost
Is it possible to display EV as BB instead of % of the prize pool/prize money in Tournament Mode?
No, in CREV we offer two output modes for tournaments: Absolute amount of money and % of pot. However, expressing EV as BB is not an option that is available, given that this basically would come down to the same calcs without ICM conversions. If you want to see the cash game equivalent of the calcs, then just switch to "cash game" mode.
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11-27-2017 , 05:24 PM
Hey guys, I am confused. Please look at the following screenshot:



As you can see, SB is betting close to pot and BB is folding 49.7%. When he is calling he has one pair+ (the board is 8426T, so non-paired!).

Now, see what happens to SB's bluffs:



How can SB have such a significant negative EV - where the EV should in fact be slightly positive*? Any explanation for that? Is it too late - and I just don't see the obvious?

* EV (bluff) = (1024+988)*49.7% - 988 = +11.96

Thanks in advance!

Last edited by BigFiszh; 11-27-2017 at 05:30 PM.
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11-27-2017 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BigFiszh
Hey guys, I am confused. Please look at the following screenshot:



As you can see, SB is betting close to pot and BB is folding 49.7%. When he is calling he has one pair+ (the board is 8426T, so non-paired!).

Now, see what happens to SB's bluffs:



How can SB have such a significant negative EV - where the EV should in fact be slightly positive*? Any explanation for that? Is it too late - and I just don't see the obvious?

* EV (bluff) = (1024+988)*49.7% - 988 = +11.96

Thanks in advance!
Can you send a savefile to support please?
It should make it easier to answer your question.

Scylla
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11-28-2017 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
Can you send a savefile to support please?
Sure, sent! Thanks for your support!
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11-28-2017 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BigFiszh
Sure, sent! Thanks for your support!
This is actually due to card removal.
The calling frequency of BB of 50.3% is measured versus SB's entire betting range.

However, due to card removal, versus just QJ, the calling frequencies will be different.
See the screenshot below of where SB only bets QJ.
The calling frequency has now become 58%.

And with this new calling frequency the math will check out:
* EV (bluff) = (1024+988)*42% - 988 = -142.96
The small difference with the results in CREV is due to rounding in the 42% value.




PS: I have tried to respond to your mail, but received an error back that "There's a problem with the recipient's mailbox".

Last edited by scylla; 11-28-2017 at 01:55 PM.
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11-28-2017 , 04:32 PM
Ah - thank you very much! I had suspected, it's due to card removal but somehow I haven't concluded that the frequency is measured against the entire range. Makes absolute sense obviously. Thanks!

And obviously I got to check my mailbox.
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11-30-2017 , 06:56 AM
interface, beautiful;
function, useful;
file size, small;
respond speed, fast;
icon, delicacy;
result, Direct Viewing

no reason not love GTO+
I just want to know……when the version 1.05 release, I had wait for 24days……
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11-30-2017 , 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jasonhau
interface, beautiful;
function, useful;
file size, small;
respond speed, fast;
icon, delicacy;
result, Direct Viewing

no reason not love GTO+
I just want to know……when the version 1.05 release, I had wait for 24days……
We're working on it, however, there's a lot of menus involved that are complex to design. I had hoped it would be done around now, but it appears it will take a bit longer.
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11-30-2017 , 04:37 PM
hey scylla,In GTO+when the turn or river are choiced,when we want check all board texture,we must look left then lookup to find all card.

and,in the middle of software,the up of range has a blank space mybe is a fitness place to display all the coumnitcate card.

or add turn&river on the right of flop like piosolver.

Last edited by jasonhau; 11-30-2017 at 04:49 PM.
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12-01-2017 , 07:19 AM
Hi,

I am a little bit confused with this menu


Am I right to assume that right now there is no way to select multiple bet sizings for one street?
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12-01-2017 , 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by qetou
Hi,

I am a little bit confused with this menu


Am I right to assume that right now there is no way to select multiple bet sizings for one street?
GTO+ is currently in beta and extensive tree building/editing functionality will be available in v105.
For more information please see the website: http://www.cardrunnersev.com/gtoplus.html

Last edited by scylla; 12-01-2017 at 08:32 AM.
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12-01-2017 , 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jasonhau
hey scylla,In GTO+when the turn or river are choiced,when we want check all board texture,we must look left then lookup to find all card.

and,in the middle of software,the up of range has a blank space mybe is a fitness place to display all the coumnitcate card.
We are first building all the core functionality before deciding where the secondary functionality will be placed.
For the moment we like to reserve this space just in case it is needed for something else.

Last edited by scylla; 12-01-2017 at 08:27 AM.
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12-03-2017 , 08:31 AM
Hi, Scylla!

Is there any chance of adding preflop calcs in GTO+? May be via cloud service?
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12-03-2017 , 01:17 PM
Sorry, my bad

Another question, then. Is there a probability of GTO+ being compatible with Simple GTO trainer?

Right now it's compatible with PIO and Simple GTO, and in order to create custom games you need to make solutions in this software. It would be awesome to have opportunity to download created solutions from CREV.
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12-04-2017 , 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Gutshot Master
Hi, Scylla!

Is there any chance of adding preflop calcs in GTO+? May be via cloud service?
We're not really that interested in a preflop solver. For more details please see posts 6366 and 6369 on the previous page. Basically, we have ideas for our own unique functionality and we prefer to assign our development around those. If possible, I would like for there to be some variety between products.
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12-04-2017 , 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Gutshot Master
Sorry, my bad

Another question, then. Is there a probability of GTO+ being compatible with Simple GTO trainer?

Right now it's compatible with PIO and Simple GTO, and in order to create custom games you need to make solutions in this software. It would be awesome to have opportunity to download created solutions from CREV.
We do intend to offer internal functionality that, although different, varies around the same theme. I would prefer not to depend on software made by external developers for this. Although using someone else's interface might work in the short term, over the course of several years it will put us in a position where every time they develop some new feature we need to scramble to create a duplicate of that exact same feature. We would prefer to spend this time developing functionality of our own.
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12-04-2017 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mejormus
From what I can tell the website is up.
For example, you can test this with this tool: https://www.geoscreenshot.com/capture

Can you try a proxy please?
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12-04-2017 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
From what I can tell the website is up.
For example, you can test this with this tool: https://www.geoscreenshot.com/capture

Can you try a proxy please?

ok. Test Other conection is ok.

sorry
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12-05-2017 , 09:21 PM
Not sure if this is related, but I get this after 4-5 clicks on www.flopzilla.com or www.cardrunnersev.com:

There was a temporary DNS error. Try refreshing the page.
Error Code: INET_E_RESOURCE_NOT_FOUND

It happens on all my devices from the house once it starts. I wait a day and it temporarily clears itself out until I visit either site again

Good news is that I was able to buy and register Flopzilla this evening. For now, I cannot do the same for Cardrunners EV.

(Seems like it should be a problem with my ISP, but I don't know.)
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12-06-2017 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by dengland
Not sure if this is related, but I get this after 4-5 clicks on www.flopzilla.com or www.cardrunnersev.com

There was a temporary DNS error. Try refreshing the page.
Error Code: INET_E_RESOURCE_NOT_FOUND

It happens on all my devices from the house once it starts. I wait a day and it temporarily clears itself out until I visit either site again

Good news is that I was able to buy and register Flopzilla this evening. For now, I cannot do the same for Cardrunners EV.

(Seems like it should be a problem with my ISP, but I don't know.)
Ok, can you try a proxy please?
In most cases this will get you around any such issues.
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12-06-2017 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
Ok, can you try a proxy please?
In most cases this will get you around any such issues.
If I go through a proxy, I have connectivity.
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