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Originally Posted by scylla
GTO+ has the limitation that it can only be used on Td9d6h flops.
It still gives a lot of free information, e.g. I used 100% preflop ranges for 1 on 1, and x9+ (plus ax, 22, x7s) preflop ranges and spent two days just looking at the results, and liked them; just made it more simple for myself.
Pio flop that is like kq2s seems to not give the raise results, that with the other range I tried, made it give wrong answers, as it cbets then any pair for value, as it never gets check raised (or so I think the reason might be).
I learned significantly from gto+ and much of the turn and river play will still take many days, plus all the rewatching for memory purposes.
I used 70 euros for Hearthstone card packs (got 60 packs), instead. Way to go before I will need to start looking into other flops and buy this one (Pio costs 200 or 250 dollars).
I suppose the turn and river is all sort of free (like Piosolver has), although not as connected to flop play, that at least with Pio was sort of less useful (for me) because of that (if one sees the flop, then one can see all turn cards related, more or less similar to gto+).
I still have some distance to go to not cbet as many good top pair hand on the default flop with X9+ ranges, as one generally is supposed to cbet way more top pairs, and not go to relative nut top pair lines when IP with the lead. But other than that, I did agree with up to all else, to this day.
My mediocre gaming laptop gets at least to 80 C when the solver runs; no need to use the turbo cooler yet, but I still use it, like when I run a chess engine, just in case, as one esports game killed my ordinary laptop for that reason earlier this year. But there is no major monitor activity, that is generally the main killer, e.g. my chess engines have never killed any of my computers, and they run up to very hot.
CREV wasn't really working for my handicapped non software brain, in 15 minutes, as some flop limitations made it impossible to get the correct preflop answers with the free software, as it only considers one flop. Although I wasn't even looking to get but mere preflop answers, but it was difficult.
So, I use the free Equilab instead for preflop ranges as it is simple, although I will have to input every hand separately (after picking opponent's range) to see if I can call 10bb or 20bb+ shove, but it is simple, as all one needs is a 40% to 50% ev (because of pot odds).
All decisions between 10 and 20+ bb can be estimated; so, needing just those two for now. I only needed to know ranges like 12.5%, 25%, 50% and 100% and then basically call them with half of those ranges, generally skipping the soft hands like KJ though, when vs. a 20+ bb shove, as they are maybe good enough mostly with fold ev, as the aggressor, not as the caller.
I guess one needs to be a rather advanced player before one would need CREV also for something (not sure for what, after 15 minutes), and it is rather difficult to get into (in my case), unlike the gto+ that is very easy, just needing to spend a lot of time looking at the results (like being the ****** monkey that one might be, trying to understand it all).
But it is worth it if one can invest the time. I knew GTO well before this already, but this is a higher education with exact details, and it isn't of full use before one understands at least most of it, so one can adjust it when needed vs. deviations, not to mention vs. different boards and situations overall. Plus adding a tourney aspect to it would be impossible without a better understanding of why and the additional tourney maths and psychology. Although not sure how much I can improve as so also, but at least I have the equilibrium ranges and its details, rather than just what the books cover, making me a more free man.