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I am playing around with using the rounding function in the trainer. Any idea on average how much EV would be lost on average with a strategy like rounding #4?

Do you any info on this? Or is there a way I can solve some game tree with rounding so I can compare EVs?

Thanks

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04-30-2024 , 03:39 AM

#14202

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,368

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Originally Posted by mike1270

I am playing around with using the rounding function in the trainer. Any idea on average how much EV would be lost on average with a strategy like rounding #4?
Do you any info on this? Or is there a way I can solve some game tree with rounding so I can compare EVs?
Thanks

I don't have an immediate answer to this, but we'll see if we can add a rounding feature to the editor.
It should allow you to run some tests to figure out to which extent rounding affects performance.

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04-30-2024 , 08:03 AM

#14203

stevematador

old hand

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,235

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Originally Posted by scylla

This would be great Scylla because this is something I’ve been very interested in as well.

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05-01-2024 , 12:15 AM

#14204

dial

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 122

For single tree, it would be great to have a menu option to save the entire tree including rivers. Sometimes I want to lock a player's strategy and see the EV of some actions of the other player without resolving. Right now all the EV numbers disappear after i click to a different point in the tree.

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05-01-2024 , 02:36 AM

#14205

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,368

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Originally Posted by dial

After changes have been made, the EVs in the tree are no longer relevant, and recalculation is required.
You can however, after locking, press Ctrl+Z to undo your changes in the current decision, and return to the point prior to the locking.
I will also check if we can indeed also include the option to return to the unlocked+solved tree.

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05-01-2024 , 09:41 AM

#14206

SrMcBet

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 47

Hi! When nodelocking, could it be made possible to use the ''Merge actions together'' feature for categories of hands?

Right now, for instance, if I right click on, ''gutshot'', to filter gutshots from the rest of the range, and then use the ''merge actions together'' option, the merging will still apply to the whole range, not just the ''gutshot'' category.

I'm asking because I think would ease the nodelock process

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05-01-2024 , 09:59 AM

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Mates.

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 247

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Originally Posted by SrMcBet

You can change/nodelock frequency by handgrouping.. if im undesrtand you well you can do it this

https://gyazo.com/46e530852d02c13d90bd220f500a4508

1. Lock + editi decision
2. Select action/actions desire and frequency
3. Drag the bar on handgrops

Resolve!

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05-01-2024 , 10:57 AM

#14208

SrMcBet

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 47

I was speaking about this feature that allows to merge actions together. For instance, merging raise and call into raise.

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05-01-2024 , 03:04 PM

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dial

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 122

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Originally Posted by scylla

Here's an example: I nodelock OOP to checkraise the flop less often. Then I resolve and OOP donks the turn at a higher frequency than the original solve. Now when I look at the IP betting and checking EVs for a hand, it is the EV against a player who does less flop checkraising but adjusts by donking turn more and making other adjustments. Most humans don't make this donking adjustment, and I want to see the EVs when the only strategy change is less flop checkraising.

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05-01-2024 , 03:17 PM

#14210

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,368

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Originally Posted by dial

We don't store river data, but recompute it live when the user requests it.
As a result, it's not possible to lock the entire tree, including the river (given that we don't store the river).
What you're requesting can be done in CREV, but not GTO+.

Last edited by scylla; 05-01-2024 at 03:27 PM.

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05-01-2024 , 03:27 PM

#14211

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,368

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Originally Posted by SrMcBet

I was speaking about this feature that allows to merge actions together. For instance, merging raise and call into raise.

Ok, I have made a note of your request.
We'll see if we can offer something along these lines in one of the future updates.

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05-02-2024 , 06:29 AM

#14212

Lorryb

enthusiast

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 73

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Originally Posted by scylla

I'll see if we can add more customization here for future releases.

Thank you that would be awesome. Especially on the river a lot of the time there are so many "weak pairs" and it would be a very useful feature to be able to separate them if only because you could count the combos of different type of pairs let alone the fact that they often play different strategies.

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05-07-2024 , 07:50 PM

#14213

2858

stranger

Join Date: May 2024 Posts: 1

How can I contact you?

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05-08-2024 , 01:38 AM

#14214

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,368

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Originally Posted by 2858

How can I contact you?

Either here, or use the "Contact" section on the website.

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05-10-2024 , 06:47 AM

#14215

DonJoe

stranger

Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 12

Hello. I start just now with my first solving a simple hand of a MTT. Unfortunatly, i have no idea which simple custom settings i can make. Does anyone perhaps have a screenshot or a profile which i can use for my first attempts?

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05-10-2024 , 10:41 AM

#14216

1BigOT

adept

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 885

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Originally Posted by DonJoe

There is support on website as well as guides on youtube. You only really learn through trial and error regardless.

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05-10-2024 , 11:07 AM

#14217

DonJoe

stranger

Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 12

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Originally Posted by 1BigOT

There is support on website as well as guides on youtube. You only really learn through trial and error regardless.

i thought there might be someone who would like to share their settings with someone

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05-10-2024 , 12:31 PM

#14218

Hilips

adept

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 804

Is there a way to have the "Pure" option by default? Or even better, GTO+ could save my options for the next time i open it?

I usually like to use the "Pure" options here, instead of "Classic", but every time i open GTO+ the "Classic" is selected.

No big deal, at all, but it would be a nice touch if GTO+ could save my personal settings.

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05-10-2024 , 01:33 PM

#14219

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,368

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Originally Posted by DonJoe

The tree builder is described in this video: https://youtu.be/yzROoc5iBec

Setting up a Sit&Go/MTT is demonstrated here: https://youtu.be/yzROoc5iBec?t=85

For more details on any subject, go here for the entire video manual: https://www.gtoplus.com/videos/

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05-10-2024 , 01:34 PM

#14220

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,368

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Originally Posted by Hilips

Is there a way to have the "Pure" option by default? Or even better, GTO+ could save my options for the next time i open it?

Ok, I have made a note of your request.
We'll see if we can store these settings somewhere in a future release.

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Yesterday , 07:06 AM

#14221

DuecesfullAA

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 24

is there a bundle for gto+ and flopzilla or do you have to buy them separate?

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Yesterday , 08:26 AM

#14222

scylla

GTO+ Representative

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,368

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Originally Posted by DuecesfullAA

is there a bundle for gto+ and flopzilla or do you have to buy them separate?

GTO+ and Flopzilla are not sold as a bundle, so they would indeed need to be purchased separately.

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