Does HM2 Work with PKR does anyone know?

it does

I really hate to say this, but I tried HM2 but I really really don't like it. A lot has been mentioned probably, i haven't read the whole thread, but a couple of things I do like to mention.

1: HM2 feels way slower / more buggy than HM1. This is my main problem.

Examples:

creating a graph really takes a time (i don't have a slow computer). Sometimes it hangs. Adding or removing filters takes a lot of time.

2.

Overal UI is not user friendly. I like the UI from HM1 much more. Keep it simple guys! I imported my old hud configs but where are my hud pop ups? I don't understand how it works, and seriously I don't want to spend a lot of time reconfiguring everything. I don't see where I can put my HUD as a default, it will be somewhere right?. Everytime it opens hud default 2 and I have to select my hud.
Also filters are added like tabs, why can't I just close the tab ? Punt a x on it, now I have to clear the filter.

3: I can't see my session earnings when I click on my hud. If I go to the sessions tab to see my earnings I have to refresh the tab everytime because it's not updated automatically (prob performance killer). I do like the session graph and the session summary.

4: I really like it that you can export hands to a mobile app on the iphone. One big improvement however would be to be able to select a lot of hands and export it to my iphone, now I have to do it hand by hand, or am I doing something wrong ?


I really stick to HM1 if this is the end product.

Improvements:

If I would have something to say in the development of HM2, this would be my main focus:

HM2 should perform everything faster then HM1
Overall UI should be the same as HM1, maybe some small improvements but really don't overdo it. A lot of people just want to play and not have to put hours into learning the new software. The software is still a tool to the player....

is there an official realease date already?

Official release date is targeted within the next couple of weeks.

I made some suggestions at the start of the beta, but things havent really changed much. I am assuming root of the problem is really in the core of a program and is as such impossible to fix without rewritting everything again.

I understand you made new HM from ground up, so you can add new features that were not supported in previous version. But instead of bunching everything in and now having performance issues, you should have made "barebone" version with original HM functionality that would work same/faster than original HM. Then you add additional features. Now you have a huge mess that is not fun to use on a PC where HM1 flies while thisone feels very sluggish.
Sorry for the rant but thats how I feel about it. Gonna give it another try when I get new cpu sometime in the future, and gona stick with HM that can run great even on years old netbook.

What are the specs on RAM and processor on your netbook?

2gb ram and some intel atom cpu, i think its 1.6ghz or something like that. Stacking 12 tables with hud worked great. I havent even tried HM2 on it, because it runs bad on my dual core pc where I usually play poker so I dont even see a point in doing that.

I believe we are past that point where new features should demand even better PCs (see Win8 for example). I dont believe any of the new features in HM2 justify increased requirments. I upgraded from PT2 to HM for 2 reasons: it was faster and it supported more stats. With HM2 these points are no longer true.
Sure we have more tools, but thats not a reason for day-to-day operation in HM2 to be sluggish. Fine make a "SUPER DUPER ANALYSYS" tab where you throw in all your tools and things will take ages to load.
But 1) Starting HEM 2) Configuring HUD 3)checking daily/monthly stats 4)checking last HH at table. These things shoud be instant. Fine make it say "Loading" in the middle if necessary. But to me, lag when I click around is not acceptable.
Maybe I need quad cpu to run this program, but util then... I still have my trusty HM1 for which I am very grateful that you guys made.

It sounds like the hardware configuration could be an issue as you are very close to the minimums. In addition, I am assuming that you have a 5400 RPM hard drive. We have always recommended (for both HM1 and HM2) a 7200 RPM hard drive for increased overall performance.

Also please make sure that you have upgraded to the most recent version of HM2. There was a release in the last couple of weeks that specifically improved performance over the initial versions.

Jim

One of the techniques that HM2 employs is the caching of hands in memory. The # of hands cached is dependent on your available RAM.

Once the hands are cached initially, this allows for much faster queries and other routine usage but it does take a few seconds to cache the hands in memory.

While HM2 is initially loading there is this initial behind the scenes caching taking place.

With regard to any performance issues with the other 3 issues, please confirm that you are using the most current release. If there is still an issue, shoot me a PM and I will have someone work with you directly to see what the issue might be.

Thanks

Jim

This sounds like something specific on your PC is causing this. The first thing i will do is get you the latest internal version, we have a couple of bugs we need to knock off first before its ready for public use but it has a bunch of performance fixes so we can use it to test to see if there is a difference. The reason i say its probably something specific to your PC is i can load a 1.5 million sample in about 30 secs and smaller samples are almost instant. Please pm me your email and ill get you an internal version to test.

Can you give a specific example of where HM2 is less user friendly, we tried very hard to make it simpler, menu's are easier to get access to now 1 click ribbon menus instead of 2-3 clicks on HM1, before its wasn't always obvious where you find settings as there was several sections for example previously you had separate menus for:

Creating a new database, purging hands, backing up a database, vacumming a database, importing a database and so on, now anything database related is all found in the database manager which is accessible anywhere in the app.

Importing a hand, setting up import time adjustments and setting up your auto import folders were stored in different places, these are all found under hand importing in the ribbon.

Previously if you wanted to find a hud option it could be in 1 of 7 main sections under hud options, if you went into the wrong one you had to had to close that window and try then next setting. Now all the hud settings are found in the one area and you can quickly switch between them without having to close and reopen them.

To be honest this kind of frustration is expected when you revamp any software like this, i see this kind of frustration regularly when facebook and other software make an update there is a ton of complaints why couldn't you leave it the old way and this is understandable however it is often necessary to make this temporarily inconvenient change with the goal of making it more user friendly overall and in most cases after people warm to the change and become used to the new layout its actually a big improvement. That's not to say we nailed everything and were open to feedback about things we did make non user friendly.

We also made a quick transition guide here which might help:
http://hm2faq.holdemmanager.com/ques...rom+HM1+to+HM2

Most likely the reason they are not auto updating is because there is a difference in time zone between your timezone and the server timezone, if you offset this via Hand Importing in the ribbon and then adjust site time adjustments then it should auto update on every hand import. Your goal is to have the hand timestamp in HM for a new hand that just imported the same as your local timezone, we attempt to auto detect this for you but if it doesnt work just use trial and error.

I like your suggestion of showing the current session win/loss as a stat to show your overall result for the session, we do have various won last x mins stats for the active table currently but ill put your suggestion forward for an overall session recap stat.


Let me double check on this one, i think this question popped up recently and its on the todo list but ill re-confirm.

This pretty much sums up our goal too, i can load a 1.5 million sample in 30 secs, on HM1 that would take many minutes and probably hang for quite a while. Smaller samples are instant and because of these big improvements we have the ability to do so much more with HM2, there was a bug recently that would affect performance and would be very noticeable when multitabling if you had a big hero sample loaded, this is taken care of in the next release which is why id love for you to test it and give your feedback. Were still in beta but were making great progress so i think you'll start to see things come together quite quickly now

This will be fixed in the next update which will be out soon

what does it mean 'soon'?

Questions:

1) This supports PLO right?

2) The functionality of being able to purge hands from the database but still have them show up in the HUD / TableScanTurbo is still there, right?

Those are the 2 big things for me before I give this a go.

I bet if you pm udbrky he will hook you up with the internal version where its already fixed

do hands get added to the results graph from left to right? creeps me out

EDIT: ok so I'm sure they do now. At least for me. Why does it do this? Say I have a graph of the last 10k hands... if I look at it the x axis goes from 0-10,000 but the 10,000th hand is recorded at 0. It's all reversed.

I made a decent size database (3.5mil hands) to examine something specific, and now it crashs every time I go to the reports tab. I can browse the other tabs and change players etc, but every time I go to the reports tab it crash. I have optimized hoping it would fix it, but it hasn't.

congrats! lost all my setups in the reports by the ***** update!

HM2 is tooo slow. I have 8 gb ram, computer works always fast, but with HM2 running poker is just going slow. Its annoying because there is a 1 sec delay when i make an action on a table

and yes i updated, since then its so slow

Works after the update.

Did the Notecaddy stop working for anyone else?

it may be related to losing configuration? If you go into the notecaddy screen, do you see definitions on the right panels? If so, please try file->reset notes and then click "create notes" on the start panel. This will regenerate the notes (up to 4x faster now) and should clear up most issues

The HM2 HUD seems to have more more horizontal space between stats than the HM1 HUD. Is there a way to reduce this space between stats? I don't use a stat separator and don't show any stat abbreviations.

What does the pixel overhang number change?

Thanks