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09-18-2014 , 08:06 PM
I don't think rob or Richard or squid or a number of others including myself would bother with bill or his thread if he didn't steal balugas work and then create a new thread without posting a disclaimer at the top.

I don't care if bill can coach or not, I just think his actions were scummy and shouldn't disappear so easily.

With that being said, people make mistakes and many times can earn a second (third, fourth , etc) chance. Whether he paid the appropriate price... I don't know.

I don't want to turn my post into a discussion about his poker theory or competence. I have expressed my opinion of his skills before and have no need to rehash at this time.
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09-18-2014 , 10:38 PM
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...no matter how well and respecfully written they are (but still incredibly insulting...
Wait, so Farha is able to write posts that are simultaneously respectful and insulting? That's really nice range merging.

Note: ANL, range merging is when... oh, nevermind.
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09-19-2014 , 02:06 AM
[QUOTE=miamicheats;44654832]I don't think rob or Richard or squid or a number of others including myself would bother with bill or his thread if he didn't steal balugas work and then create a new thread without posting a disclaimer at the top.

I don't care if bill can coach or not, I just think his actions were scummy and shouldn't disappear so easily.






I was not going to retort against again vs any of the haters on this thread , but this one has to be answered.

So lets see, ONE page article of BalugaWhales was inadvertently added to my list of 25 essays sold for a mere $49. That is $2 per BalugaWhale page that which came to a grand total of around $80 made by accident off of this article. It was a mistake. BalugaWhale and I came to complete agreement and wished each other well. We took care of business as it should be.

However....

There are some of you (Miami) that feel I should wear a sign around my neck stating I am an intentional thief as well as I guess a big banner on my website stating the same.

I really dont know how you could attach such rediculous penalties to a no harm no foul incident. Who got hurt? Even if it was intentional (which it was not) where was the insidious crime? Should I track down all players and reimburse the gigantic $2 that was stolen?

It was a mistake Miami. It has been paid for many times over already. Would you care to burn me at the stake? Or maybe waterboard?

Oh yea, and you want to see a big banner notice on my coaching OP for that incident? Hmmmm How many big businesses have any even large incidents happen, and then they post the incident on their front doors, websites etc? Is that standard practice? Or just more of the complete absurdity that I hear from the trolls here.

My students claim excellent results from my coaching. And then there is the grandstand of haters who decide on their own that THEY are qualified to rate me as a coach. Actually I thought you were above the BertMcguirks and Farhas. You should be ashamed of your absurd requirements. Certainly I hope you never run a red light and get 30 years in the penitentiary for it.


And yes, the situation has disappeared except for the self appointed self righteous police. The students that come to me each week tell me they are not interested in the BW incident. They want to know if i can make them winners, simple as that. They are not interested in minutia of a one page article years ago. Thus, post the incident everywhere that you can as it does seem to drive prospective students to me.

Ive come to the conclusion that most of the haters here must be running bad and just plain hate to see anyone succeed. Im a NLH coach. I turn break even players into high dollar winners (the ones that are diligent) which is around 120 to date. For whatever reason there is a small nucleus of people here that hate that fact.

Oh well...

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09-19-2014 , 02:21 AM
Let's not forget the other article that he took from artofmanliness.com. So it isn't 1 article its 2. So 2 pieces of work that you sold as your own.
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09-19-2014 , 02:24 AM
Maybe you shouldn't seek out and reimburse, but how about just manning up to what you did, instead of making silly excuses.
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09-19-2014 , 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by whs1919
Maybe you shouldn't seek out and reimburse, but how about just manning up to what you did, instead of making silly excuses.


Go back through this thread and you will see it clearly. How many times would satisfy you? I have done it repeatedly. I havent avoided it whatsoever. And furthermore, I completely satisfied BalugaWhale, which is all that matters. If you disapprove, I am very sorry.

This thread is for coaching reviews. The trolling that litters the thread is appalling. Public forums, anyone can become self appointed Judge, Jury and Executioner. If this absurd trolling hurt my business I would be livid. But sorry guys, business is very good AND my customers come back each week because they are satisfied with the results that they get.

I would say that they players who disagree with my strategies have simply not arrived yet at higher level NLH. My strategies have been proven over and over by many students over many years. The proof is in the pudding. And those that sit back and criticize might just take a look in the mirror and ask why they think they are qualified to judge.

Imagine that.

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09-19-2014 , 03:09 AM
Lol at your strategies being higher level. I have taken plenty of coaching from you and that is laughable. Anyone that considers you for coaching should stop. He does not teach anything that cannot be discovered online at DC, Cardplayer or whatever other training sites. In fact my results when looking through my graphs are better before I took his coaching and better after I stopped. Your money is better spent else where. Besides the fact that you can't really trust the man, since he is a theif and a liar.
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09-19-2014 , 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard Parker
In other words, you stand by your position that bet sizing is an art, not a math formula.


With an extensive range of betsizing from underbetting to overbetting, taking into consideration hero image, villain emotional state/player type, villain hand range + tendencies, no, I do not put this into a mathematical formula. Manipulating calls and folds through superb betsizing skills is most definitely an artform.

Could I end up and make a math statement out of it should I feel the need, yes. But i dont feel the need.
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09-19-2014 , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by whs1919
Lol at your strategies being higher level. I have taken plenty of coaching from you and that is laughable. Anyone that considers you for coaching should stop. He does not teach anything that cannot be discovered online at DC, Cardplayer or whatever other training sites. In fact my results when looking through my graphs are better before I took his coaching and better after I stopped. Your money is better spent else where. Besides the fact that you can't really trust the man, since he is a theif and a liar.








Im a liar? Prove you took plenty of coaching from me by posting 10 paypal receipts. You can sort them in 5 seconds if what you say is true.

Lets see who may be the liar. This kind of blatant lying is over the top. I dont have any students that do worse after coaching. Not one. Thus, prove your bold and brash statement.
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09-19-2014 , 08:12 AM
Yeah your a liar. I am pretty sure you lied about plagiarizing the articles and knowingly selling that material to people. What else in your coaching material have you pulled from online to help your students?

As far as the coaching goes I took 8 sessions with you before realizing that every thing you teach and charge me for could be found online. You teach basic stuff and that is it, nothing I haven't seen on DC, or any other online training site. Your claim that you teach a higher level of poker is lol.
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09-19-2014 , 08:57 AM
"high level poker" ??
do you know that people in this thread have watched that lol J4 video

anyone that pays you for coaching after seeing that needs their head examined
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09-19-2014 , 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by whs1919
Yeah your a liar. I am pretty sure you lied about plagiarizing the articles and knowingly selling that material to people. What else in your coaching material have you pulled from online to help your students?

As far as the coaching goes I took 8 sessions with you before realizing that every thing you teach and charge me for could be found online. You teach basic stuff and that is it, nothing I haven't seen on DC, or any other online training site. Your claim that you teach a higher level of poker is lol.



Simple. Prove your claims. Show your paypal receipts.

OR

You are just another mouth running away in a maniacal manner. lol


Easy as 1-2-3 to sort those paypal payments and post here. Prove it my man. Im betting $100 to a doughnut that you cannot. All mouth. No substance, just like all the others. Pathetic attempts at discrediting a great coach if i say so myself.
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09-19-2014 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by AintNoLimit
Quite a bit of the ART forms of poker cannot be put on paper mathematically.
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Originally Posted by AintNoLimit
How do I explain mathematically how I can 3 bet in position AJ vs a wide opener and proceed to outplay him postflop? But its very easy to do. math? Its irrelevent. So for you to ask for math on a situation that is more ART than math, cant be answered.
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Lower limit players many times cannot even recognize higher level concepts. A player who possesses phenomenal betsizing skills will display an artform 100%. Knowing how and when to size bets up or down is an art, not a mathematical formula.
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Originally Posted by AintNoLimit
With an extensive range of betsizing from underbetting to overbetting, taking into consideration hero image, villain emotional state/player type, villain hand range + tendencies, no, I do not put this into a mathematical formula. Manipulating calls and folds through superb betsizing skills is most definitely an artform.
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Originally Posted by AintNoLimit
Could I end up and make a math statement out of it should I feel the need, yes. But i dont feel the need.
Seriously wow, quit writing man. The more you write, the more exposed you are as someone that just blabs random things to pass them off as knowledge.
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09-19-2014 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AintNoLimit
Simple. Prove your claims. Show your paypal receipts.

OR

You are just another mouth running away in a maniacal manner. lol


Easy as 1-2-3 to sort those paypal payments and post here. Prove it my man. Im betting $100 to a doughnut that you cannot. All mouth. No substance, just like all the others. Pathetic attempts at discrediting a great coach if i say so myself.
So if he is critiquing your coaching, he needs to provide receipt that he was indeed a student.

But if he's recommending your coaching, no receipt is necessary?
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09-19-2014 , 12:53 PM
ANL, Everything in poker can be broken down in mathematical terms because poker is just one big math problem. Stating poker is an art form is just laughable.
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09-19-2014 , 12:58 PM
Think my favorite part of the thread is when you say you inadvertently included that single article in a packet of 50....but also 'inadvertently' changed some of the names within said article. All. By. Mistake.

That's quite a few coincidental mistakes. Please, Christianity with it's Harry Potter-like water-into-wine, virgin birth and rising of the dead requires less suspension of disbelief. Gawd you're so full of ****.

Personally, I don't think anyone should be criticizing you for the J4o hand. Rather, we should be thanking you for hopefully passing on your brilliant logic to the fish.

As long as you're coaching, poker will never be dead. Thanks Anal. I mean ANL. I mean Absolutely-Not-Legit.

Also...is it too late to sign up for coaching? Never mind, I'll PM you.
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09-19-2014 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by thehelper
ANL, Everything in poker can be broken down in mathematical terms because poker is just one big math problem. Stating poker is an art form is just laughable.
+1


Also, this clown coaches lol live players. They are about 10 years behind
online players.

I would love to see this guys online results, break-even at best if I have to guess.
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09-19-2014 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by whs1919
Yeah your a liar. I am pretty sure you lied about plagiarizing the articles and knowingly selling that material to people. What else in your coaching material have you pulled from online to help your students?

As far as the coaching goes I took 8 sessions with you before realizing that every thing you teach and charge me for could be found online. You teach basic stuff and that is it, nothing I haven't seen on DC, or any other online training site. Your claim that you teach a higher level of poker is lol.



Interestingly enough, A person with the audacity to call me a liar, lies directly in this thread that he was a student of mine. I challenge him to simply show a paypal receipt and he cannot.

It fits along with the crowd of wannabees here who Im quite sure if we peruse through all posts created by these players, it will show most are microstakes, or 1-2 players, and have decided that they can critique my coaching. Public forums. Its the nature of the beast to attract trolls.
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09-19-2014 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BertMcgert
+1


Also, this clown coaches lol live players. They are about 10 years behind
online players.

I would love to see this guys online results, break-even at best if I have to guess.






Another microstakes player, chiming in to give his expert opinion.

Dont you guys realize that anyone seeing your rediculous slanderous comments can check your posts and see that you are in no position to be authoriatative?
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09-19-2014 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Parker
So if he is critiquing your coaching, he needs to provide receipt that he was indeed a student.

But if he's recommending your coaching, no receipt is necessary?




Yes, he should. He claims to be a student of mine, an unsatisfied student. I say he never was. He should prove it, or he is just lying as Im quite sure of as I have ZERO unsatisfied students.



Richard, I see you post very few threads yourself and now I understand why. Your one and only post here...

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...-wynn-1340939/

shows that you have absolutely no business critiquing anyone on poker.
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09-19-2014 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by AintNoLimit
It fits along with the crowd of wannabees here who Im quite sure if we peruse through all posts created by these players, it will show most are microstakes, or 1-2 players, and have decided that they can critique my coaching. Public forums. Its the nature of the beast to attract trolls.
So if we're microstake or 1/2 players, we are not fit to critique your coaching?

Instead of addressing the points that were made, you are now making ad hominem attacks.
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09-19-2014 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by AintNoLimit
Yes, he should. He claims to be a student of mine, an unsatisfied student. I say he never was. He should prove it, or he is just lying as Im quite sure of as I have ZERO unsatisfied students.
Would you like to put money on this?

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Originally Posted by AintNoLimit
Richard, I see you post very few threads yourself and now I understand why. Your one and only post here...

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...-wynn-1340939/

shows that you have absolutely no business critiquing anyone on poker.
Perhaps I should respond to this comment after your edit time allotment is up. You have a tendency to change your tone entirely after seeing the result.
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09-19-2014 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Parker
So if he is critiquing your coaching, he needs to provide receipt that he was indeed a student.

But if he's recommending your coaching, no receipt is necessary?




Richard, why would you make such a deal over the art within No Limit Holdem?

You can go all over the internet and find where NLH is declared an artform. Its so standard. And you (as well as others) claim it is not.

All of you guys are whining about NLH not being art. Do you guys even know what game we are talking about here?


Example:

Taken from Pokerstrategy.org.


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No Limit vs Fixed Limit Poker
Before I start with some of the differences, I'd like to share a quote that I just read online:

"Limit poker is a science and no limit poker is an art form."

Let's analyze the differences using the quote above.

----------------------




So absolutely yes, NLH has plenty of science within it but the art within NLH is the essence of the game. I stick with my appraisal of the game.
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09-19-2014 , 02:45 PM
Please explain to me what you mean by poker is an art form, and why math is irrelevant.

We can use a concrete example, such as how is whether to 3bet pre an art rather than math.
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09-19-2014 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Parker
So if we're microstake or 1/2 players, we are not fit to critique your coaching?

Instead of addressing the points that were made, you are now making ad hominem attacks.




Absolutely yes of course. You are thinking that microstake or 1-2 players should have the expertise to critique a VERY successful NLH coach who has successfully trained 1-2 through 5-10 players to winning levels for well over 4 years? Seriously?

You are trolling and levelling so once again, Im done with you sir.

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