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For verification of such advertising statements like these, I provide emails of the students as they have agreed for me to do so.

Thus, if you are looking for online coaching as well, I am spending a fair amount of time online coaching in addition to live coaching.

Would like to get coaching and fix my leaks ...what's the email? Since I don't think I can ping just yet

Bill@anlpoker.com

I look forward to hearing from you.

Hi guys,

Check out my new snippet video on mechanical 3 betting preflop and soul bet size reading postflop enabling us to PWN the villain for his stack.

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Is this a troll video?

What does mechanical 3 betting preflop mean?

The first 3 bet would usually get credit therefore our cards are irrelevant.

Ok, few questions.

1) Why does it not matter what our first 3 bet should be? judging by the stats this was not the first hand at the table, if so why not 3 bet earlier? Good hu players are not going to give your 1st 3 bet any more credence than your last.

2) why are we expected to miss this flop?

3) What about his turn bet and sizing makes you think he is weak? you announced that his large bet sizing was fos and he can never have anything. I don't understand how a 40% pot bet is large or indicative or weakness?

cheers.

The first 3 bet getting credit is as basic as it gets. Just like in a live game if you sit down, open and have a person 3 bet from behind, we are usually not able to say that this is a person just taunting us because we have zero history or dynamic. Thus the 3 bet receives credit the first go. That concept has been around forever.

J 7 3 rainbow HU, you ask why he expects me to miss this flop? Well, if this is not obvious I would suggest opening up flopzilla and just look at how well any reasonable range just about hits this flop.

The turn bet was ~128 into 159 which appeared as bluffy as could be since my flop bet and turn check suggests I am just giving up. I expected this to be bluff about always and tanking created him to follow thru on the river with a ridiculously larger bet on the river. What could I have to call those bets? What does he expect?

The hand was elementary to me.

Don't know where to start.
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1) This is such an awful old school cliche and has next to no basis in hu games in this age online. No good Hu player thinks like this, you have a range that you are 3 betting (which can vary through the match) and you play that range, you don't just pull random hands out in a pseudo attempt to level the other player that's just an awful non strategy.

Also like i asked earlier, if your first 3 bet doesn't matter, why did you not 3 bet the first hand? it's clear from the stats you had played a little bit, you however waited and randomly decided J4o was the hand that you should 3 bet... this goes entirely against what you are saying.



2) It may have been around for ever, in the same way that the world was flat for a long time. It's really not applicable to hu games.



3) Thank you for advising me to look at flopzilla but I have a very good understanding of how our range hits this flop. Not only that but I have a solid understanding of how I would play every part of my range on such a flop.

What you're suggesting is that villain is definitely going to think that you've missed the flop, so i assume that you're cbetting 100% here? can you not see how terrible that would be? If you're not cbetting 100% what are you checking? and why? considering your reasoning previously.



4) A lot of points here

- I got the sizing wrong so i apologise but..

- If villain thinks you have totally whiffed why on earth would he bet big on turn? It makes no sense to bluff big if he thinks you're giving up. I don't understand why you would think that?

- Do you always give up when you cbet flop then check turn? if not, then why would he expect you to just give up turn? Again, no good hu player thinks like this, it should be a range consideration. there will be parts of your range that you want to bet for value, parts you continue to bet as a bluff/draw, parts that you will decide to x/c since they are not strong enough to bet themselves and other parts that you x/f. You've just made up your turn strategy as you went along. You should not just expect him to bet because you think you're levelling him.



5) Why would you give someone no credit, it makes no sense. Again it's a range consideration thing not a levelling game.


I can only assume villain was a fish/bad player when viewing the video but that really shouldn't change the very basic fundamentals that you should have when playing Hu and constructing ranges.

I've skipped on a few details since I have to play a session, but this is my elementary response.

I'm still uncertain about how to view the live ghosting too.

I don't normally enter into this kind of thing, but a friend linked me this thread and asked me to give my opinion on the hand.....

I have no idea what's going on in that hand but it looks like some kind of mixture of button clicking and strategy circa 2008, certainly not solid, modern midstakes HU strategy.

First of all I don't understand your mechanical 3betting and building a dynamic comment at the start. It seems you've just randomly pulled a hand out of a hat to decide to 3bet, whereas any half-decent HU player knows exactly what hands he is 3betting and which hands he is calling at any point. If you are randomly choosing a hand, how do you even know what your range looks like at that point? Are you 3betting 100% this particular hand, have you just gone on a "feeling" that J4o is the hand to go with this time, or have you actually constructed a range?

Your next comment about him expecting us to miss that flop is also pretty strange. For a start the 3bettor never really fully misses any flop because a large portion of most 3bet ranges is the strong overpairs. Most 3bet ranges here will also include a bunch of strong Jx. I'm not saying it's a board that smashes our range, but we definitely can't say that we are expected to miss it.

Next, I don't see how cbetting top pair no kicker in a 3bet pot works well into any kind of overall gameplan. What is your cbet range here? What is your x/c range otf? If you are betting TPNK (and presumably betting all your other TP hands), how are you ever going to have a check range otf that can stand up to a bet and multiple barrels?

Then we get the gem of knowledge that is "that is bull****". $128 into $159 is a fairly large bet, but given the board texture it's not a surprising bet, especially when you're slightly deep and he has a bunch of strong valuebets and high equity bluffs in his range. There's also the question of how does it look like a bluff if he thinks you're giving up all the time? Firstly, if you do give up all the time, then that's a flaw in your gameplan. If you don't give up all the time, why would you expect him to assume that you would? I would assume that any half-decent player would have some kind of decent x/c frequency there. Secondly, if he actually did think you were giving up with a very high frequency, it makes no sense at all to bet large. If someone has an extremely high fold frequency in a particular spot, it makes way more sense to bet smaller with both your bluffs and value.

"He's going to think we have a spade draw or something".... Well I don't know what "something" is, but I don't think betting a backdoor FD on the flop then check/calling the turn is a very standard line, and I would expect you to have a spade draw very seldom here. Maybe Jxss makes a little sense, but other than that I don't get why you would ever have the spades.

I'd say most importantly throughout the hand you haven't talked about your range, his range, or your gameplan for the entire hand. Any decent HU player will know exactly what their 3bet range is, then when the flop hits they'll know how that range is split up into bet, x/c and x/f sub-ranges, which then branch off onto later streets. All I see here is a strategy that is being made up street by street, based on "feel" and little more.

I think a few of you HU guys are getting worked up for no reason. This was NOT a HU game. It was a 6 max that just reduced to HU, This was not a HU player. He wasnt even much of a player at all as the HUD wasnt working properly for 20-30 hands and then started showing him with 3 hands. There is NO gameplan here. In fact, i expected this player to probably quit in less than 10 minutes.

This was what I expected out of him, and it is exactly what I received. No surprises to me and yet you guys come out of nowhere and rip into it when you were not there and have no idea of what was happening at the time.

And PokerRon, street by street??? Seriously, I said what I was going to do right on the flop all the way. Predicted turn and river action. So that is street by street make up as I go?

This student wanted me to check out his setup and so I commented on a few hands he was playing. Dont get too carried away here.

This ANL guy is a complete fraud, Baluga Whale has already pointed this out. He could barely beat 50nl online

I just watched this video and these guys are so souped they won that pot. Like dude your thought process is straight terrible, yeah you won the pot by bet/x c /x c line but dont get too excited. It's a complete results oriented hand history, "this guy is probably gonna float- then bet his float with nothing (yes that is what a float is)." I mean you must have been playing against a brain dead ****** because the opponents line is straight awful.

First off he calls preflop with A5o, not good or standard. On the flop he floats on J73 board, turn is 9 and you check he bets. Then the river may be the worst bet of all time, if he even thought you were on spades he could win at showdown a decent amount of the time with ace high, the bet just wont get enough folds because only Jx or 7x is betting that river and the rest of his showdown value hands check back.

this video just shows you are a results oriented coach stuck in a 2005 with a very basic poker mindset.

Im pretty sure that the video showed what I wanted, That I knew fairly well how "this" player would play once it reduced to HU, and was correct.

And BTW, I never played 50nl in my life, and had only 2 sessions with BalugaWhale at 400nl 6max over 10 yrs ago. And I am quite positive that he made no comment about what I could do over the tables at that time. So thanks again for coming in and spreading some completely made up rumor, when you dont know me nor I you.

wondering if you have any students who could serve as a reference? also have you coached any bracelet winners? I am trying to find a coach who can specifically help me win a bracelet, also I am trying to learn how to 3 bet mechanically? like i can do normal 3 betting but i want to try to work in some more mechanical style in my 3 betting

This thread is full of the students and see the OP for the bracelet winner that I coached from the beginning,

I think it may be time here for prospective students to check out my postings regarding live poker (as this thread IS directed toward live poker coaching) and see just how I perform in the hand analysis dept.

This is where the rubber meets the road so to speak.

My students have shown before and after reviews many times on this thread demonstrating what benefits they feel they have received, and here I offer anyone to see for themselves how I decipher hand histories and come to my final conclusions.

The results should speak for themselves.



Random Med stakes interesting hand
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/11...-boat-1456028/

Vs a maniacal overbet shove.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...s-lag-1458386/

Tough turn underpair spot
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...-oesd-1435468/

Maximizing FE
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...cc-mp-1433845/

Another interesting hand
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...-lost-1431446/

AKcc is shoved on
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...shove-1419123/

KK Deep issue
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...ck-kk-1412364/

Semi bluff raising
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17.../#post42625380

I'd give it 1.5 / 8, though the very last part about folding 33 in position to a 4x raise while 120bb deep is so bad that I almost want to subtract a point.

What is 1.5/8? Please explain. Im assuming you agree with 1.5 out of 8 above or am I misreading your post?

Yep, I think one of the posts contains really good advice, one is OK-but-incomplete, and the other 6 are pretty provably incorrect. (btw this has zero to do with our past incident, I was just curious about the advice you posted. I wasn't even going to post a response until I read the last one where you recommend folding 33 IP to a raise with 120bb stacks).

Andrew

I stand behind my decisions and analysis on the hands in question, and the OP who posted them most likely wishes he took my advice since my conclusions lead to the correct results in I believe all cases or my analysis was confirmed by other top posters. Results we do not play for, however when you consistently find your results accurate then the results themselves are relevant because the assumptions made must have been valid IF in fact you continually find the Villain showing up with the hands that you predict. If you guess a villains hand 100 times correctly, somewhere in there those results have to matter. Other players may juggle numbers or theories which would go against the strategy, but correct results over and over time and again would suggest that the results are converging with the correct thinking/strategy.


Check Post 70 - This player was making $11 or so bucks an hour before meeting ANLpoker. Now he has turned pro and has made Approx. $65 per hour for a decent sample of i think 1500 hours or so. That was awhile ago that he posted that and he is still maintaining this avg. today. He took one session per week diligently and also maintained an email analysis program between sessions thus he worked VERY hard implementing many of my non conventional strategies with extreme success.

That is no joke. That is no hype. That is no smoke screen. PM him if you want to verify from him. It is quite impossible for anyone averaging $11 per hour, to start a different program and zoom to $65 per hour over extended period of time without my involvement not being a good chunk of the difference. I have many other stories just like this. My students successes speak for themselves, so whoever wanders by and doesnt care for my strategy or mindset, it bothers me none whatsoever. I do very well playing both online as well as live and have done so for over 30 years, and my students successes hold on their own. There really isnt a lot more I can say on that.







I am shocked by your showing here as I would never go into another coaches obvious advertising and put down said coach. That is incredibly unprofessional and I really am speechless about that.


It seems to me that you have about 5 posts since Sept of last year. 2 of those are here and now on my thread. You come to my thread to put down my analysis? What? REally? I coach mainly 1-2, 1-3, and 2-5 players and I am on your radar?

I really dont know and wont speculate as to your motives here, but could it be that dissing me would help you gain live students? Why would you bother messing with my thread here at all if it were not a gain for you in some way? And while it is a public forum yes, how would it be for Bluefire poker coaches to come onto Deucescracked and just basically say that they totally disagree with about all you say in your videos? Would that be acceptable to you?





I will say again to lurkers and prospective students. Look at the real live reviews. Contact them, do your due diligence. As far as all others dropping in to bad mouth, well, you know public forums as well as i do and how wide their motives could be.

CO raises 4x with a super wide range per the OP. Nothing said about blinds and the hand goes HU as it would a fair amt. of time, with maybe one of blinds flatting the other portion. I also noted that if others were grabbing chips to all, well then flatting is alright.

Hero must win a strange $160 ON AVERAGE every time he flops a set just to break even. In order to profit a reasonable amt. he must win on up to $180+ on avg. every time a set is flopped just to avg. two bucks or so per trial profit.

Vs. no flopped hand most of the time, will hero win 180 HU on avg. every time a set is flopped, especially when villain has no hand? This is almost 1/3 of a 100bb stack need to win on avg. when the set is flopped. Will this happen? I dont think so at all unless the villain is aggrofish spewing turns and rivers often. This villain simply wont flop enough hands to valuebet turns and rivers often enough to produce this avg. profit IMO.

No mention of creative play was present, and thus not assumed. And drilling down on many students online databases (with similar skillset most likely), I find similar results when the opener is wide and the hero is only set mining.

I stay with the fold, until we can bring in some creative postflop play where we win without set mining.

I'd absolutely love it if BlueFire coaches came to DC and criticized my play/advice. It'd be a pretty awesome opportunity to find out why some great players disagree with me and learn from them. I put content into the public (or semi-public) space basically every week and it's with the intention of inviting dissent and debate.

As for your 33 hand - if your opponent gives up SO often that you can't win $160 on avg when you flop a set, you should be winning the pot WITHOUT a set so often that it won't matter.

Andrew

Of course that is true, however we cannot assume this higher level of creative play postflop. Set mining was the only topic here so far.Obviously its fine if we will play on creatively and win often without a set. Most times the OP here in this forum is calling for set value. If he mentioned playing on postflop then this discussion we wouldnt have.

and you did not offer constructive criticism on the hands, you only dissed on teh group as a whole. Certainly that is not helpful whatsoever. Would you disagree?