I also want to add that Bill is an amazing coach. I started off as a break even player. I am now earning $25/hour playing Live $1/$2. Every single coaching session is packed with tons of value. I continually learn from Bill and have been very impressed with his professionalism. If you're looking at taking your game to a new level, I would highly recommend him as a coach. Whether he spends time at the tables anymore is irrelevant. He has an amazing ability to teach & has made a huge difference in my game. It has been an investment that has paid for itself and then some!

I think you are spinning your wheels here a little bit with taking shots at his ability. We all know there are plenty of coaches who are no longer playing and that does not mean that they are not coaching, and their students are not seeing quantifiable results related to their coaching and price paid. Singling out a specific coach for hypothetically not playing seems silly. He claims he plays, his theory is working for his students, and even if he didn't play a lick of poker his students are succeeding.

I coach and cannot produce any of my online results due to being relatively inactive online and having multiple computers since BF. I do have tracked live results, but primarily coach online players, often at 6ma, leaving my results "irrelevant". Im just making this point since a lot of guys can coach without proving their playing results, myself included.

The main issue here is stealing content. If it's all settled with BWhale, I see no reason this all can't be disclosed in this thread in detail. If there were some sort of pending litigation I would understand, but Bill, you should probably make this right since the cat's out of the bag and there is no way lurkers aren't concerned.

Rob, just don't drive this train off the tracks when you started making a good point.

*I have no affiliation with ANL, as a matter of fact, he is a competitor*

Chipper/JHair

JHair

Maybe the newcomers to this thread are unaware, but all of the posters who take issue with the BWhale incident are fully aware from the last thread that a fee was in fact paid to BWhale for an article of his, as well as a full apology which was totally accepted and BWhale wished me well as I did he to finalize the issue.

It is just like many errors/oversights/whatever that happen where a person can make of it what they will. I have ONE pack of essays that I sell. His article was ONE article of 25 thrown into the mix. 100% of everything I do as a coach aside from those essays ($49) is done over skype by me verbally.

It is plainly obvious to anyone looking for true facts, that nomatter how you slice it, the BWhale incident was minuscule to my entire program, thus to attempt to oust my coaching based on this terrible transgression was basically over the top and my students all defended me 100%. The only people that attempted to burn me due to this obviously just had their own agenda and since this is a public forum, it is what it is.




And by the way, last night my protege student, Justin Oliver, the guy who comes to me in the Bellagio and tells me he has struggled with poker for years and was break even at best-----(Then we work 6 hours per week together for 1.5 yrs), goes on to win a bracelet 3 yrs later and now yesterday came in second in the 2500 NL WSOP Event 29.

He will tell you himself that I brought him from break even to bracelet winner and he has been crushing online up to 1000nl as well as 5-10 live for several yrs now as well.

So yes, I have a thriving coaching business, and due to this I cannot play as much as I would like (I get more online in these days than live), but my students are doing extremely well and that is what this thread was to be about. My coaching.

Congratulations to the man who talked me into coaching poker.

Justin Oliver.

After last years bracelet win at the WSOP 2013, he comes in second last night in the $2500 NLH EVENT #29.

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A phenomenal story of a man walking up to me at the Bellagio and asking me to teach him how to play after observing my play over several visits from Canada. 6 hours a week of coaching for over 1.5 yrs and his dream is coming true. Justin worked very hard, and is a sharp guy as well, thus the combination of the two put together is producing excellent results.

And if any player perusing this thread wants to hear what Justin has to say about ANLpoker and what it can do for you, just email me at bill@anlpoker.com and I will give you his email address. He enjoys turning new prospects on to what can change their poker life as well. Let him tell you.

I've had 3 lessons with Bill now and just want to say that it has helped tremendously. I was a winning player at nl100 before black friday for over 500K hands at around 6bb/100. I thought I was decent at the game until I started having these lessons to really crush the live games since they play so different. He really opened my eyes to how much better I could be at poker in general and has an insane amount of knowledge and expertise on how to teach you. If you are looking for a coach..he is the one to look to.

Who's material is slick willy using in your lessons?

Blah, blah, blah...sounds like you need a lesson on keeping quiet about things you know nothing about, and talking ill about people you don't know. Slander is not cool and your post is at best distasteful.

All I know is what Willy wrote, he said that he used someone else's work...so I think it was a valid question.

And I think you don't know what slander means.

Slander- making false and damaging statements about someone. When you call someone Slick Willy over one resolved incident to me that implies your calling him Shady or a con man. I think you know your post is meant to be destructive and damming to Bill Hubbard. I however doubt you will attest to this being your objective. You don't seem to be the compassionate, understanding type. I think taking pot shots from afar is more your style.

The poker world lost two quality people today. Going to focus on that, you get the last word coach. Peace

To anyone reading this thread and considering Bill's services as a coach - I've been working with Bill for a while now and would be happy to share my experience thus far. Feel free to PM me if you're considering Bill as a coach and would like some real world, practical information on what to expect.

I was wondering if anyone knows where I can find any essays written by Baluga Whale? Could I pay someone for some coaching to provide this material? I'm looking for a coach who can provide access to other people's material- not looking for unique ideas or tailored solutions, rather someone to present other people's work as his own....

Hi ANL! Great first post!

Great story! I am glad this tourney donk talked you into coaching so that you could coach him, get caught stealing other people's work, watch him succeed, and then "thank him" in your thread for talking you into coaching him...

To anyone reading this thread and considering Bill's services as a coach - I've been working with Bill for a while now and would be happy to share my experience thus far. Feel free to PM me if you're considering Bill as a coach and would like some real world, practical information on what to expect.

I am personally repeating this post simply to help anyone who is striving to improve their poker game, and those who are considering coaching as a viable option in doing so. I can say wholeheartedly - it works. Coaching has helped me tremendously. My thought process and play has gone up several levels since I took the plunge. It really does make a huge difference in thought process, and situation analysis when it comes to hands. Anyway, just my thoughts. Good luck all!

I might take a moment to ask you "Gus" why you have dropped in to explode an extremely small oversight, and make it appear that the bulk of my material as well as coaching is not my own, when the infraction that you refer to was a one page incident with BalugaWhale, an oversight made years before I started coaching, and has been completely put to bed with BalugaWhale and I parting as friends? What prompts a person to do this? You dont know me, nor anything about my coaching, so why? You drop in and have the nerve to call Justin Oliver a tourney "donk"? Someone who has cashed 200k, 300k and 330k in tournaments in the last couple years and crushed live 2-5 poker now ever since we did a solid year of 6 sessions per week? (Justin Oliver post for my coaching is at the bottom of this reply. Justin now has 3 tourney major cashes and crushing live 5-10. All beginning with a player asking me to teach him how to play poker only ~4 years ago)



Im not exactly sure of the reasons that some people decide to take an inch and make miles of it, but I will make the record straight here.

Years before I became a coach I wrote quite a few one page essays on live poker. Along with my essays were two articles, one on bluff ranges and the other on Deliberate practice, both of which I thought were interesting and worth the read.

Two years pass and I start coaching poker. A had nothing that I sold, and only did my coaching through skype verbally. A literary friend said I should take these articles, make a packet, a sell for an inexpensive price to give my students a good boost of material before starting $100 an hour sessions over Skype. I agreed (not remembering that 2 articles were not mine) and away we go.

My packet was 25 articles for $49 and 2 were not mine. At the time of BlaugaWhale contacting me about his article in my essays, I had made about effectively $50 on those 2 articles, and being the oversight that it was, I immediately took the 2 articles out, replaced with another 2 of my own----paid a fine to BalugaWhale and we parted friends.




I still sell the essays, they still contain a ton of material that is NOT written anywhere else in poker, and are a bargain at $49. The very first essay has saved my students thousands in very short periods of time. And if this is hard to believe, just PM some of my students in this thread and ask them for yourselves.

The other 99.99% of my coaching is done verbally over Skype. And for whatever reason I seem to have a trail of guys with too much time on their hands who want to paint me as someone who has no material of his own, over such a small oversight years upon years ago.

I dunno, maybe other live coaches are putting people up to this. Who knows. But open forums are going to have certain individuals who think nothing of posting hurtful "untrue" posts just for the sake of it.

So far this controversy though has increased business, since bad publicity is still good publicity, however I want to make sure that the record stays truthful in this thread, unlike to totally distorted posts you see here and there. You can tell who my real students are, so just PM them if you want to know what their results have been.


Bottom line I will leave you with is this. Reviews that say their first several sessions with a coach were great are meaningless for the most part. Reviews that tell of achievements after 6 months and even a year or more of coaching are what really tell the true story of what coaching can do. I have a large group of students who started as break even or slight winning players, who now have quit work and gone pro successfully. That is what my coaching can do IF you have the desire to do so. If you want emails of students who have done this, simply email me for their emails at bill@anlpoker.com.

(The reason I have so many players in this category is directly because my live strategy is unique, and cannot be found in print anywhere.)


The above is the truth, the whole truth. Believe me, believe my students that you PM or email, or believe some of the players who drop in to hate for whatever agenda they have going on. Its up to you.





Post 30 by Zen Bear - Justin Oliver

Re: LIVE NO LIMIT HOLDEM CASH GAME COACHING 1/2, 2/5, 5/10 Blind. Proven program over time.
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When I met Bill I was a loser or break even player at 2/5 live.... After a year or so of working with Bill, I was destroying 2/5 in Vegas ...

Last summer I won a WSOP bracelet in 4max and I currently am crushing 5/10 live in Vegas and at all of my tournament stops...

I owe all my poker success to Bill ... I would recommend him to anyone of any skill level from beginner to expert... I talk hands with some of the top rated players in the world and out of everyone I know, I still trust Bill's advice the most...

Plain and simple he knows what he's doing and is a great coach...

Justin Oliver

RobFarha: You have lost all credibility with me. Seems you have become a paid assassin.

Justin Oliver is not some unknown lucky donk. He has really become a top player out of Toronto and always in the hunt for a bracelet. He is a great ambassador for the game, had a profitable WSOP, did some TV commentary, and has no ego problems.

I play only part time and not at your level. But I used to see Bill at GVR when they had a good game, have seen him at the Aria, and he is very well known at Commerce, perhaps more from years past. Bill has YEARS at the tables, not hours.

Not fair calling some of Bills coaching advice absurd. New and different ideas are part of the game's evolution. We are trying to play at a higher level, and not just the same old way. The forward pass in football was also considered absurd when introduced.

I enjoy the coaching. I learned more than I ever dreamed. I improved fast and made exciting profits. Poker has become much more fascinating.

Looking for a coach? Don't miss the opportunity to try out ANL.

Lol at calling bill an unknown. Last time he came to see me at bellagio the floor acted like they hadnt seen their best buddy in a year and started a super long conversation of which i was the third wheel (akwaaaard). Also every dealer that crossed eyes with him was like "oh heeey loong time etcetc" (yes hes been playing waaay less and, no, going for variance free income is not a sin).

Although and even though i do respect some poster's advice in llsnl and other forums, some of em dissing bill's poker advice is just sooooo lol. Imo it demonstrates that things are still way to rigid and formatted when it comed to thinking about nlhe (hey i have 33pct po i cant fold but im beat)... hence there is still profit to be made.

Honnestly what is scarry with bill is how he adapts, and yeah at least in my experience with him he cruuuushes live souls and has impressed me with my coaching online. Im moving to canada and will continue working with him even though ill be online only.

But yeah who cares about me and other students (incl a wsop bracelet winner that has several big cashes and that luckboxed lol), lets listen to the angry 2+2ers with sherif syndromes who would instead of accepting mistakes were made (for 2 5bux essays lol) explained and paid for (as accepted by all parties directly involved including 2+2 staff) and solved... who come in this thread acting like all this wasnt settled before (or maybe they are trolling, which makes it sadder)...


**** im defenddd bill again even though i would rather he not coach coz who needs more good players out there... stupid, and one point for the trolls

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I'd like to quickly comment as to the originality and uniqueness of Bill's approach to the game. Bill definitely does not teach "conventional wisdom". I think that's why a lot of his strategy posts get criticized so harshly. Bill's teachings and ideas about how to optimally play the game are very unique. The reason I can say that is I've never heard any other poker enthusiast advocate the ideas Bill teaches. In fact, if I mention an idea / betting line Bill advocates to a live "pro", they almost unanimously laugh, say how "horribad" that is, and continue in their rut. And I have to say - that's great for us.

I remember some of the plays he advocated when we first started - they truthfully seemed absurd to me at the time. I executed them almost out of sheer curiosity - they were so against the grain it was laughable, at least so I thought. What was even more laughable was - they worked like a charm. I could not believe it. These plays should have been so transparent to any halfway competent player. And as I raked in the chips, I thought to myself - hey, this Bill guy really knows what he's talking about! I can't believe that worked!

Just had my first session with Bill and here's my personal story for people to take the facts and my personal opinion.

Nothing to do with plagiarism, which to me has no effect on coaching ability.

Nothing to do with how often he plays himself, tbh if my game improves due to his sweating me online, teaching and coaching I couldn't care less whether the man ever picks up a card in a casino again.

Right, first session and to give you all some background, I'm from the UK and only started playing 2 months ago, I read tons online, took out a DeucesCracked membership and watched a ton of videos. I then started at microstakes on Stars and was losing, after 2 months of reading and concentrating I was beating 5nl zoom for a small profit and moved up to 10nl zoom, which I know is completely different from what Bill coaches but we are starting where I am now to move up once I have confidence in my game since I'm pretty new to Poker.

First thoughts when he was sweating me and telling me what to do and why: After losing 50bb within the first 10 hands I thought - he's going to be way out on how to play these games, its completely different to what he's used to and I've played over 35k hands at micro zoom I don't think this is going to work.
Apart from 1 other instance on my PokerTracker where we lost our Aces to Kings my session was like a perfect line of improving profits, even with the first big loss and the big loss of Aces vs Kings when the turn flopped a King the session ended in profit and my stats were something ridiculous. Bill was getting me to play the players rather than the cards and my god it works! He picked up very quickly how easy it is to exploit this game I've been losing at for 1000s of hands. This just showed me how much experience and expertise at Poker he really has if he can exploit a game after 20 minutes of being exposed to it.
I've always read that Poker is more about the players than the cards but since I'm new to the game haven't been able to get it yet. After just this 1 session out of his standard coaching comfort zone I can see he has a lot of skill and has sold me to his program.

Just 1 session and I've left with the confidence that my game will be improving very quickly and I'll be playing much higher stakes then I thought in no time at all.

Ill keep this thread updated with my progress for anyone who is looking for a coach and wants to see improvements from start to Crushing.

If anyone wants to verify me as a genuine player as I have not wrote on here before just PM me and Ill be happy to confirm it.

Regards,

David Swaby (Swabster3000)

Hi forum,

Here's a post to update my stats (see post #10 in this thread for my first post).

Today marks an important milestone for me, as it's been exactly one year since I started getting coaching from Bill.
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Here are the stats as of today (07/23/2014):

AFTER I started getting coaching with Bill, I have played 1,384 hours of live poker, entirely 2/5 NLHE. During that time I have made $83,648. And so my winrate has been $60.44 per hour during that span.

To put it another way, I have made $83,648 in one year's time, averaging less than 27 hours per week at the poker room.
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Bill is a terrific coach. With his help, I am continuing to work hard and improve different facets of my game. What's great is that, even with such a good win rate already, I feel I have a ton of potential to improve and increase it even more…fixing leaks, better exploiting different types of opponents, adding more creativity to my play, etc.

I very highly recommend Bill's coaching. If you are passionate about the game and work hard, with Bill's help you will almost certainly find success.

Forgot to list again the stats BEFORE meeting Bill:

BEFORE I started coaching with Bill, I had played 1,142 hours of live poker, almost entirely 2/5 NLHE. During that time I made $17,090. And so my winrate was $14.96 per hour during that span.

There are some that argue that any "coach" can help improve an amateur player - and move him from break even to winning. And that may be true. But Bill the guy who made this possible for me.

After 3 months of intense studying with Bill, my game has become so strong that now regs avoid playing at my table or avoid playing pots with me. The table bullies and maniacs play more passively against me. Plus, during the 2014 WSOP, I played 1/2, 1/3 and 2/5 cash games at more than 10 poker rooms - and was able to compete and win consistently.

Before Bill I had 1000+ hours of break-even/winning play... but 600 hours later, I'm close to crushing our local 1/2 games and preparing to play 2/5 more regularly.
The style Bill encouraged me to play is a winning style that I see used in less than 2% of the guys in our poker room. And it's a style that doesn't make me exploitable or risk my stack unnecessarily. In just 3 months of study, my game has surpassed most of the regs that have played in our room for years - and now they're asking me for advice on their hands!

The funny thing about this is I haven't had a coaching session with Bill in several months, but I still reflect on our conversations and can hear his advice while sitting at the table. (BTW - he encouraged me to tape our conversations and I still review them - along with his printed materials - to keep my game sharp.)

What I respect most about Bill's coaching is that he tailored it to address my issues that I had that was preventing me from moving to the next level.

So why am I not being coached by Bill now? Very good question.
The truth is I had so much to practice and try and realize... that I felt I need time away from the classroom and more time putting all this knowledge to use. (I was being coached twice a week.) Even 3 months later, I still haven't caught up to all Bill was teaching me (how's that for value!!) - and I'm still having "a-ha" moments where I catch myself saying "so THAT'S what Bill was talking about!" (Yes, Bill - you are right... bluffing really is VERY easy with my image! ha-ha) Once I'm caught up, I intend on skyping with Bill again because I believe there's always room for improvement.

Unfortunately - on 2+2 (and on this thread) there are a lot of guys that hate Bill's advice or want him crucified for past mistakes... to that I say "whatever." All I know is that from MY personal experience - Bill's a stand-up guy who truly knows and loves the game... and takes a personal interest at his student's success. So you can choose to accept the spew of those guys who have never met, played or talked with Bill one-on-one, or you can choose to believe my real experience.

The thing I want people to take away from my post is that this year, while at the WSOP, I played cash games against aggro Italians, professional grinders, crazy Frenchies, check-raising Brits and serious players from across the US - and was able to adjust and win against all of them... (and I was not running good all the time!) something I feel I would not have been capable of doing before studying with Bill. Unlike other players - I don't like to publish win rates and other stuff like that - but if you're serious about having Bill coach you - ask him for my email and we can talk.

Also:
I have tried most of the poker training sites like Ivey League, Cardrunners, Deuces Cracked and PokerXFactor.... and none of those have provided any major contributions to improving my live cash games.

BTW - I don't get any kick-back or free lessons or free T-shirt for this endorsement... I'm simply doing it because I consider Bill to be a very good coach as well as today, a good friend.

k.

Thanks for the kind words Hiro, and you worked hard and earned your new place in your poker world.

And BTW, your "verbal" tool when insinuating you were drawing and then asking to see one card is NUMBER 1 on my acting/verbal at the table session material now. It will be hard to top that one.

I have been working with Bill since December 2013 and my results have been phenomenal.

More specifically, the work I have put in online with Bill has been extraordinary. He has been "sweating" me online for the past two months. This work has paid tremendous dividends, not only with my results, but with my understanding of the game of poker. He exploits villains in ways that I have never seen before.

I highly recommend that you commit to lessons with Bill. Seriously commit! I started by taking 1 or 2 lessons a month, then increased to 1/ week. Now I am taking at least 2 lessons a week where Bill sweats me online while I play. The repetition has increased my win rate, understanding and has 100% paid for the lessons.

It's an investment and it's expensive but the value is immeasurable.

ps...I hope you listen to the poker community and stick to books or whatever you're doing...i like all this money left on the table