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I first began coaching with Bill in August, 2012 when I was a slight winning to break even player. Since working with him, my game began to improve almost immediately. I can now say I am crushing the game and it is all due to Bill's personal one on one coaching through Skype.

Bill, as Justin stated when he was being interviewed after winning a WSOP Bracelet, is the best kept secret in poker. I agree with him 100%. He will take your game to the next level, no matter if you are a beginner or advanced player.

I would also like to add that what he teaches can not be found in books. Books are a great foundation, but Bill will take your game beyond the books, which is how most people who are "grinding" are playing, and like the cream you will rise to the top. Some of his strategies will absolutely crush certain player types.

Bill has a very carefully planned out course which starts from taking his quiz to see where you stand as a player, and then he will go right into preflop and beyond with docs to go along with each subject, just like if you were taking a college course. He will not only tell you why you should make certain plays, but he will prove to you why we make them.

I highly recommend Bill to anyone who is looking to improve their game, whether it's to win on a part time basis or play full time. I would not be where I am today in my game without his coaching and I was not asked to write this.

If anyone has any specific questions, do not hesitate to PM me.

Thanks again, Bill, for your had work and dedication.

Tony

I want to preface this by saying I was really torn on whether to even post this or not because I’m not out to hurt Bill, but it just seems like more of the “same old” even with this new thread.

I am going to give my honest assessment here since I coached with Bill for about 7 months..
I just keep seeing these “before Bill-after Bill” posts possibly requested…and yes I felt that way too for a time but I want to balance that out with another view..

Pros: If you’re a beginning player he will definitely shore up some of most glaring leaks and will help you become more aggressive in the game. He can certainly teach you to beat 1/2 for a good clip.

Cons:

- it’s expensive for what you get…
I really felt that he didn’t really manage our time well. If your paying 135/hr for coaching it should be packed from start to finish with tailored information.. for you.. Sometimes we would spend 15 min “Catching Up” on nothing really, or spending more time than necessary struggling through like 2 or 3 quiz questions, that honestly felt a little long winded (and this is just part of Bills personality so I don’t fault him for that). Also sometimes lessons would start late or end a bit early due to over scheduling I think..

- He relies on Small-Small-Big way too much… What does this mean? well it’s a technique where you basically bet small twice to try and narrow a V’s range and then Blow him out of the pot with a Big river bet.

- After we had gotten my general preflop game down I hit a wall big time.. And the reason I hit this wall was because I feel we hit a point where we just couldn’t get past theory wise…

Real simple example, when I was coaching with Bill, Pocket 99 is pretty much always a call pf right?

But wait… would you ever 3 bet pocket 99 pf against an aggro fish opener for value but as a bluff against players behind who might be holding over cards, that would fold to a 3bet but that have combined 50% or greater equity against your hand post if they called?

This example in a round about way illustrates my point.. There was just so much left out… or maybe not properly communicated about positional play, throwing certain ”rules” out the window, player profiling, when to be appropriately aggressive and when to be passive post flop etc.. and it is only now since I have had a different coach with equal hours spent with both that I can see my game theory understanding has probably tripled and I was able to smash through that wall in a number of sessions after breaking down and rebuilding my game.

- I bought those essays as recommended and the quizzes… and yes I am a little bitter about the plagarism aspect in as much as that I paid for the materials

- Bill offers a paid HH analysis service, but I found it very difficult to get prompt replies when using this so I cancelled it.

- Honestly at the end of the day after what I was paying I felt a little bit like a recurring revenue stream to Bill, and then when I hit that wall …..

Bill I mean this honestly if you want to improve your user experience you need to do some extra things..

I have my coaches cell phone, I can text him for free and he gets right back, he spends some amount of “free” time mentoring his students, etc.. this is the type of stuff you Need to do if you want to be successful in todays environment because poker is a small inside world of players at the end of the day and it’s only getting smaller it seems…

GL everyone

I'd like to comment on the value I've received from Bill's coaching, as well as how he treats his students. I've been a student of his for about a year.

First of all, thanks to Bill's coaching, I've gone from a slightly above break-even player in a soft live 2-5 game to solidly beating a much tougher 5-5 game (I moved). I have since been able to quit a pretty well-paying and secure day job (I was an aerospace engineer) to play poker full time as my sole source of income. I never would have been able to achieve that goal without Bill's coaching. He's revolutionized my poker understanding in a similar way that finding out about ICM calculations did 10 years ago when I started playing online SnGs and discovered 2p2.

When you learn a new way of playing poker, it’s true that at first a somewhat “cookie cutter” approach is necessary in some situations so you have some basis on which to make decisions. It’s been my experience with Bill that once you become proficient in fundamentals and understand why certain plays are best, you then move beyond that approach and consider when alternative plays such as 3-betting mid-pairs preflop or playing passively postflop are optimal. As a musician, it’s rather analogous to learning to play an instrument: At first you are taught to play songs note for note, then as you improve you can generalize those acquired skills and begin to improvise.

Perhaps just as importantly, I can speak to the dedication Bill has for and the value he brings to his students. My coaching sessions routinely last longer than the hour scheduled, and Bill never complains or asks for additional payment. When I hit a troubling downswing a few months into his coaching program, Bill generously offered me extra sessions at about half price to really dig deep and make sure I was just experiencing variance, rather than making mistakes.

In other words, Bill really cares about the success of his students. I've hired two other coaches from 2p2, and although they helped me and I have no complaints about their service, Bill is the first coach I've had who I've felt is actually in my corner. I highly recommend him.

When I met Bill I was a loser or break even player at 2/5 live.... After a year or so of working with Bill, I was destroying 2/5 in Vegas ...

Last summer I won a WSOP bracelet in 4max and I currently am crushing 5/10 live in Vegas and at all of my tournament stops...

I owe all my poker success to Bill ... I would recommend him to anyone of any skill level from beginner to expert... I talk hands with some of the top rated players in the world and out of everyone I know, I still trust Bill's advice the most...

Plain and simple he knows what he's doing and is a great coach...

Justin Oliver

Started back with Mr. Hubbard after taking a break from poker, and I work a lot and no casinos close to me, so I don't get to play as much as I like but since coming back I have been crushing the games. He will open your eyes and u will learn to optimally make the right play on your own and also he's a damn good guy I talk to him all the ask him all kinds of questions involving poker an he's goes out of his way to help me out every time I have a question. I'm not even sure why I'm writing this I hope u don't get a coach....

I started with Bill at the beginning of this year. I am a 2/5 and 5/10 reg. I was reluctant at first to acquire a coach, but decided to give it a shot. Bill had worked w/ an acquaintance of mine and I had seen him improve drastically. So I went down the path with Bill...and it is well worth it.

I have always been a winning nl player. I was beating 1/3 100 bb max for several years and was ready to move up. His deep stacked coaching is what I was looking for. Now I'm in games where my starting stack is 200bb or more at times. I knew I needed some guidance.

Bottom line, I'm crushing games. Regulars that I used to view as tough opponents are no longer. The best players in the room I used to avoid, I have zero anxiety to play against now.

I owe this to Bill, period.

And this plagiarism stuff, it was a mistake on Bill's part. It was early in his coaching career. He's a good dude that dropped a ball, made a mistake, it happens. If he wasn't a good coach, none of this would even have been brought to light. He's great coach.

He'll find your leaks, plug them. If I'm unsure about a hand? I call Bill, I don't talk to other pigeons in the poker room about hands anymore, it's a waste of time and totally unproductive.

Ok, I'm done...

Just started with ANL again. Very excited to see where we take this. The lessons pay for themselves if you're serious about improving. I highly recommend checking him out

My 2cents

-DOC-

How is this thief allowed to post here again? 2p2 u guys have very low standards. bunch of sell outs that run this site

As a cash game player, it's hard to have proof of your results, but in just six months of working with Bill, I just took down the largest tournament in North Carolina's history for $85k. http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/event.php?a=r&n=173213. I believe my cash game background and all the knowledge that I have gained through Bill led to my victory. Thanks for everything Bill, looking forward to bigger and better things in the future.

- Kaivon

Thats awesome Kaivon! You earned it well, and proves that hard work does pay off.

Before starting with Bill I was a little skeptical about the price of the sessions. However, he took me from a break-even live player to 10BB+ per hour. I think the price of the sessions are way fair for the ROI that you get.

He plugs your leaks and coaches you in a way that allows you to be a winner in the real world of poker with ideas/strategies that I never got from all the books I read.

I value his lessons so much that I hope no one that I play against finds out about him and uses him because that would make my games tougher.

10/10 to me!

Had my first session/quiz reiview with Bill yesterday. Good experience, improved my mindset quite a bit in just one hour so really looking forward to more discussions with him. He provides sharp insight into fundamentals that have stood the test of time in an easy to understand way. I feel much more confident at the tables after just one session. My only regret is wishing we had more time because there's so much to learn.

But you have it all figured out. You don't need a coach!

Yeeeeowww just took down $2700 at the final table in a tournament yesterday. I was 7th out of 200 with something like 8 or 9bb when we decided to chop. Right before my big blind. (I made out like a bandit).

Might not sound like much to some of you guys, but I'm pretty proud of myself.

I'm also in the process of taking yet another stab at 2/5, intermittently since about last November. This time, so far, it looks like I am gaining purchase. I'm still playing about 50% 2/5 and 50% 1/2 and haven't crashed/burned yet. Unlike some of my prior forays into this zone, some of which ended after about oh 15 minutes.

Thanks, Bill! Although to be sure, the learning process is never over. Think I'm due for a tuneup. I'll talk to you soon.

Congrats buddy, and looking forward to it sir!

Anyone have a review of the Group Skype session audio files? Most interested in hearing about #3 - RANDOM UNDERPAIRS, LIMPING TRASH, OTHER POSTFLOP SITUATIONS, FLOATING.

Re-listening to it now, I like it. It puts you in some "tricky" spots, and once it's "what would you do here", you can pause it, think it through, then listen and compare. This is true for all of the Skye sessions, yet I think it's a cool cost effective thing about them.

For this one specifically, - it covers pretty much what the title says. Spots with underpairs, limped trash, etc. where someone might not have a thought process in place and in turn a plan. It's kind of hard (at least for me) to review them individually, as they all offer great content with example hands, and plenty of extrapolation on thought processes at each part of the hands. Maybe it's better to review the Skype audio format in general...

It's affordable, gives you plenty of rich content and ideas, can be reviewed at your convenience, and gives you a peek into Bill's coaching. I don't think you can go wrong with the Skype sessions. Hope that helps.

That's a really good question.

I would also like to point out that in my thousands of hours of Vegas poker (ANL lives here in Vegas) I have not once seen this guy actually playing live poker in a casino.

He very likely just sits home and "coaches" people realizing that the EV of that is much higher than any sort of hourly he would make playing.

I have also seen this guy post some pretty absurd advice (of course, in my opinion) in LLSNL.

Be wary of hiring this guy as he has a history of stealing material and passing it off as his own as well.

Since January I had once again started playing online poker. During this journey I knew that I was only a break even player and maybe up a little bit of money. A few weeks ago I decided to get bill to help me with my online game. Since then we have had 4 sessions and I have seen a big change in the way I approach each hand. His reasons and actions makes sense, and his knowledge of the game is incredible. When we break down a hand Bill tends to know what the other person has before he even gets to see their hand. Even though I still have many leaks in my game by working with bill I have already made more money in these few weeks then the last few months combined. I honestly don't even think we have even scratched the surface yet either. I couldn't be more excited to work some more with Bill. Highly recommended, just don't sit at the table with me.

very interesting point. I waited over 2 weeks to hear his response to this. In fact in the sticky these paid ads are informed that they should reply to all poasts. Yours has been clearly ignored.

I too play full time in las vegas. In fact since Black Friday I have logged over 5,000 hours of poker at the tables on the strip. I too have yet to see this "crusher" in action.

I also agree that the buyers should be aware that he does in fact like to steal information and pass it off as his own

I pay for this thread for one reason only, which is for students to report how well they like what they receive from me. Their reviews.

For other people like RobFarha or you sir (who are not students of mine, never have been and Im sure do not seek coaching from me), I have to wonder how and why I am of interest to you as well as the hours I play when and where.

For the lurkers who view this, my coaching business will thrive or fail based on how well I coach, and whether the students report back that they feel very good value in what I offer. I have created a multitude of winning players over 3.5 years and quite a few of the students allow new prospects to contact them for another line of verification.

As for play time and other personal questions that one may want to ask, simply email me from my website and we can discuss any items necessary for you to move forward with coaching.

The real issue here it seems would be a case of a couple of random players deciding to discredit me as a coach due to the fact that I am not out at the Bellagio every day like I used to be. This idea alone just shows that the person complaining of this knows nothing about poker coaching. If David Sklansky writes a new book, should we trash can the book because we do not see him at the tables every day? Its an absurd thought, which again makes me wonder of the agenda that is going on here. Any player who spends a majority of his time at any one location, and does not have the ability to talk long hours with players from all over the world, will have tunnel vision due to the finite box that the player plays in every day. I have to know how to train a player at Crown Australia, Maryland Live, ACF London and everywhere in between. I cannot gain this knowledge by playing at the Aria every day.

I am far too busy to get involved with trolling questions such as these between persons who clearly are not in the market for a coach. It serves no purpose but to clutter the thread. I do not know you squid face, nor RobFarha and honestly have no idea why you take the time to attempt to taint and discredit me.

You can listen to a few players complaining they dont see me playing (and I really dont know if they even know me if they see me) or you can listen to what the WSOP 4 max bracelet winner (Justin Oliver) said of my coaching last year in the last 3 minutes of this interview. You be the judge as to what is worthy of giving your attention to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awRBDHGJe8A

And by the way, I give money back guarantee on my work. Players come back to me each week because they are satisfied with what they receive. Why should this bother you so much that you take the time to post negatively here and you dont even know me? Its quite baffling to me, and therefore I will not be defending this back and forth scratching some itch that you have.

For anyone viewing this post, just look at the real facts. Look at the reviews from my students and decide if that is the type of value that you want from a coach. I would dismiss any comments from others who are clearly just trolling my thread.

And just for the record, in 2014 I have in fact played at Aria, Bellagio, Ballys, Planet Hollywood (when students play 1-2), Red Rock, Hawaiian Gardens, a private $10/$25 game in Henderson, a private $5-$10 game in Richmond Virginia as well as online at Bovada. And its been a good year as far as hourly goes.

Having said that, the playing has virtually very little to do with how well I coach NLH. When I sweat players online, they see in person how I handle the situations easily and effortlessly. Live poker is kids play compared to online overall, therefore many of my students who have me sweat them know that i walk the walk, not just talk the talk.

After two years of live coaching from Bill, I've recently started doing "sweating" sessions for online, ( and also online HH coaching sessions ) with Bill. It is very easy to see where he cut his NLH teeth. I'm amazed at the knowledge I'm learning from Bill on both fronts ( online /live) . And it is becoming clearer as to how Bill has taken the superior online skill required to win at online and applied it to his live game. You can't go wrong with Ain't No Limit!

You are wondering why I am questioning your ability to beat poker when you are selling coaching packages on 2+2?

There are many different ways to sheer a sheep, but some of the stuff I have seen you post in the LLSNL is just downright awful. I have felt this way for a long time regarding your posts.

I only recently decided to post in your thread in light of you stealing material from BalugaWhale and passing it off as your own.

The fact that 2+2 even allows you to continue selling your "coaching" services is downright insane to me, but just like you, anything to make an easy buck.

Your hours are of interest to me because I (or squid face) have played thousands, of thousands of hours combined and not seen you once in a casino. You would think someone whom is on 2+2, advertising themself as an expert of something would occasionally participate in the field they pronounce them self an expert. I feel it necessary to point this out, along with the fact that you lazily steal material from people and pass it out as your own. Had you included this in your original post I would not have posted anything because you are honest and upfront. Anyone whom chooses to purchase your services is doing so with all the information readily available.

You have not done that, so I feel as though you are misleading the public and taking advantage of people too naive to realize that you are not only a poor poker coach, but a thief as well.

I will discuss my personal questions about you here, in the open where everyone can see.

I am not some random person that just created a 2+2 account last week.

Squid Face has been in Vegas for about a decade and playing professionally for a long time and is easily one of the best players at his level.

I have only been in Vegas for about a year and a half (still have never seen you) but played professionally since I was old enough to play live. I have a top tier winrate over a huge sample at the levels you claim to coach and if you went around Vegas and asked people who actually leave the house to play poker instead of ripping people off on skype all day, you would hear people vouch for my game. Not to mention I have documented just about my entire career in a 3 year thread in PG&C.

We are not "random players". I would also like to point out that neither one of us coach. I am not attempting to slander you for personal benefit or anything else. You are a liar and a thief with a rudimentary understanding of the game you claim to be an expert of.

You keep using these extremes. I do not expect you to be the Aria for 50 hours a week grinding it out because you can make such easy money sitting at home copy and pasting BalugaWhale's written work.

I have never seen you play anywhere. The combination of that, combined with your lol strat posts I see you make in LLSNL makes me question you.

Do you have any idea how much poker has changed in recent years? If you are not currently in the games (at Crown Australia, Maryland Live, ACF London and everywhere in between) you have no idea how to coach people that are playing at Crown Australia, Maryland Live, ACF London and everywhere in between.

You play nowhere and are advertising yourself as the No Limit expert that doesn't even play no limit. Do you not see how one could have a problem with that?

Again - this is a ridiculous example of you using something that proves nothing.

Of course I do not blame you for including this guy in your OP as of course it looks good for your coaching business (look guys, my students win bracelets!).

But to cite one amateur player who runs super hot for a day or two and wins a bracelet as proof of your coaching prowess is ridiculous and I think you know that.

What about people who's students lose flips in tournaments and don't get to be as fortunate as Justin? Does that make their coach bad? No, it doesnt, of course not. Tournaments produce massive variance. I have no idea who Justin Oliver is and this is certainly no knock on him, but winning a tournament does not make you a good player and in turn does not make you a good coach.

I would assume you coached this guy for full ring cash at 100bb+ so this is basically a totally different form of poker.

Also Bill, just incase you didn't know, the less people at the table, the more variance there is, by a lot.

I am not trolling your thread. I am providing information that you forgot to include in your OP, like you play live once every two years and stole from BalugaWhale.

Once again, I have literally nothing to gain from this as I don't coach nor do I want to. I just find it really suspect that you don't play, you post horrible advice and you steal stuff to present as your own and feel as though the public needs to know that. That's why I posted.

Had you been honest with your potential consumers, no posts from me.

Just to throw something out there... I signed up for Bill's coaching services in hopes that they would take my play, and poker thought process, to a higher level. I was also hoping poker might become more fun, and hoped the investment would more than pay for itself. It has.