Anyone wonder why the same people troll this thread over and over again?

I have been a student of ANL Poker for two years. I started by taking the quiz, we did a sesh about my answers. Then we started regular sessions where we went over Hand Histories that I take at the tables, and as I have moved up from 1/2 to 2/5, we have continued these Skype sessions. I was averaging about 5-6 sessions a month. And now I continue to do Skype sessions about 3 a month.


When I first started playing poker in the casino ( I missed the online thing, didnt start poker till after Black Friday ) I lost about 3k in my first two months. So I decided to invest in myself through coaching with Bill. I started with 2k, 1k for sessions with Bill, and a 1k bankroll ( 1/2 ). I have never had to add to my bankroll since, building my roll up to 10k in the first 1000 hours ( thats on top of my continued coaching costs ! )


I was a total novice beginner, so we had some hurdles to get over, me with the fact I knew NOTHING, and Bill with the fact he was so far advanced and had to really back it up to get me up to speed .


Its almost laughable now how fast I progressed within the first few sessions. People I feared at my casino, were now switching tables when I would sit down, trying to get to the seat to my left ( those that even understand that concept, that is !), and in general respecting my play. I was known as very aggressive, before I even knew what that meant. I was just following the bet sizing concepts I was learning from Bill.


He has taken the concepts from the advanced online methods, and turned them into a mindset that pretty much totally slays the average live player mind.


I have all of the essays in my I-phone "notes" ( which is where i do my hand histories also ). When I get tilted from a bad beat ( which I really dont even do anymore thanks to Bill ) or I'm card dead, I read them over .......its like reloading a new clip of hollowpoints into my brain !!
If you put the time in, you will be rewarded.

So for $1000 Bill taught you how to become a $9/hr winner in live 1/2 games? What a solid testimonial.......

@ spleeft - sky's the limit, keep it up!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing the poster above. I'm just making the point that $1k in coaching to achieve $9/hr in live 1/2 hardly seems like the deal of the century.

I can't help but think these students of ANL would be equally impressed by a 2006 cardrunners video

Didn't you say you were beating 1/3 for several years and was already a 2/5 and 5/10 reg, and that you need more coaching because you were sitting at deeper games?

I wonder how many of these other feedbacks are honest?

COOL FUN AND COMPETITIVE ANALYSIS OF DIFFICULT HANDS



TWO COACHES ANALYZE 8 HANDS FOR YOU----Results given in the next post.



You analyze and be the judge.

Note: We do NOT pay attention to short term results, however long term results are EXACTLY what we strive for. Making sure that you are "somewhat " in the ballpark with regards to results are important as well. A person just cannot be too far off routine results even in a 10 hand sample and be a top player.



Bill "AintNoLimit" Hubbard and Andrew "BalugaWhale" Seidman



1.

5-10 NL live in Las Vegas. Short-handed. Overbet jam on river. I have a boat?
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Villain in this hand is capable and non-******ed.

Effective stacks are ~1300
Folds to Villain in the SB who raises to 35. I call in the BB with Q T

Flop: J 6 6

Check, check.

Turn: Q

Villain checks. I bet 60, Villain Check-raises to 140, I call.

(I probably should have folded turn, but forget about this street. It's not the street in question.)

River: Q

Villain shoves.


My question:
1) Can we run some math on this? How large does the shove need to be before its a fold? Can someone assign some basic ranges to this hand and justify a fold?

So I need to call approx 1125 to win $1125 + 350 = 1475.
So I need to be winning 1125/2600 or 43% of the time.

Am I that ever here given action?

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BALUGAWHALE: Hand 1: this one is good!
AINTNOLIMIT: Thank you sir.

Thus Andrew agrees with Bill on this one.


AINTNOLIMIT: Im sure this is contrary to popular vote, but a thinking 5-10 player knows V has a Q here and overbet shoves this huuge riverbet because he has somehow QJ ---but most likely 66.

IF he is a competent player, he made this sizing for a reason ---and that reason is he knows we have the Q. When this happens --and I dont care how rare 66 is---when he does this, he has the 66 maybe 95 times out of 100 trials.

Thus, I fold. We are calling HOPING for a chop AND he has zero reason to believe we would ever in life fold a Q.

With all these facts to rely on, Im not going to bow up and say I cant fold a Q here simply because its top full. When the evident says you are crushed, I listen to it.

And yes, 3-5 times out of 100 he may show a Qx somehow. I wouldnt care less.







2.



2/5 JJ deep vs lag
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villain: has been playing about a ~75 vpip ~25 pfr, pretty wild lag. this guy is an extreeeeemly aggro lag maniac, has been showing down huge pots with one pairs, Ace highs , etc.. has the table playing way looser than they are used to , calling him down 3 streets with their AK's no pairs , etc, .. however i noticed also when he gets a really good hand like AA/KK/qq etc he 3! huge pre/4!/5! even , and pot pot pots pots .. does not care about the board basically just takes his premo hand and pot pot pot.. he was running really hot for a bit too and was up to almost

1,000bb about , 20 hands earlier, and has spewed down to about 400bb where he is now.

when he doesnt 4! me pre, i am very confident my JJ is the nuts pre. Pretty great flop for us. He leads flop pretty small which is standard , i 3! him positive im good unless he miracle flopped, and he just flats which is another strong indicator that i am good on this flop.

If he flopped something like 2pr he is going to raise me allday, knowing that i am repping an overpair and that he has a crazy loose image. I really doubt he had the capacity to bet/flatcall... so he just flats and the turn comes a pretty scary card for my range.

but then he checks the turn. Which i was really happy to see. If he just bombed the turn here t wouldve been a very hard decision.He checks so I just check it back. River blanks.




$2/$5 No Limit Hold'em

Hero (BTN): $1550.00
BB: $1400

Pre Flop: ($7) Hero is BTN with J J

2 folds, CO raises to $20, Hero raises to $60, 1 fold, BB calls $60, CO folds

Flop: ($122) 6 T 8

BB bets $75, Hero raises to $165, BB calls $90

Turn: ($472) 9
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($472) 5

BB bets $1175 all in, Hero ?

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BALUGAWHALE: Hand 2: You refer to JJ as "such a marginal hand" which sounds like absolute-value-thinking to me. Against this guy (one whom even you believe you should call down with one pair on a 4-straight board), I am ecstatic to play a big pot.

AINTNOLIMIT: We are 300bb deep and when a super maniac donks 2/3 pot on a T 8 6 board, I myself am not stoked about raising and fading a 3 bet (which i have no idea what his range would consist of at this time) with JJ. The hero pot controlled the turn as I would, and then I read the 1175 shove into 472 on river
correctly for the call when most of the forum went the other way folding.

This was an easy call for me on the river and was the crux of the hand IMO.

Getting in 300bb starting on the flop raising with JJ as a slight overpair would not be in my gameplan especially not knowing the villains range really in this particular spot. Raising the flop has to open the door for the villain to value huge as well as semi bluff huge (promoting a 300bb decision) in retaliation and I dont know which it would be as I dont know him that well on this type of board.

I have to stick with that myself but again, the river call was the main issue IMO here.








3.

2/5 , can't seem to shake this hand... 99 flops OESD
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ive had this hand from last night bouncing around in my mind all day , cant seem to forget it ..

2/5 eff stacks $1k , wild action table , raises are $50-$90 preflop often, 3!'s are usually to $180-240, but i am still an unknown and have only raised a couple hands. I have shown down one hand with AQ and doubled up in my first couple orbits vs a lagdonk.

Villain1 in this hand is the biggest stack at the table with $3-4k . I have not seen him showdown any hands but have seen him raise quite aggressively on flop/turn and had a few people fold. He seems decent and the table seems to respect him.

i get 9 9 in HJ , lagdonk limps from EP, i raised to $35 , Villain1 OTB flats , the lagdonk limper flats

flop (~$110) 6 7 8 .. i love this flop.

lagdonk checks, i bet $75 , button calls , lagdonk folds.

turn ($255) A ..

hero ??



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BALUGAWHALE: Hand 3: You'd barrel the turn to get your opponent off the handful of combos of TT-JJ that don't have a diamond (not v many) and instead get absolutely mauled by flushes, two pairs, AT, etc. Seems like classic "not sure where I am so I guess I bet". Turn is almost certainly a c/f, but if you really think that villain bluffs with 9x (and 8x, 7x, etc.) then it could be a relatively happy c/c. But betting seems like the worst option by far.


AINTNOLIMIT: Interesting. What range do you place the BTN villain on flatting this flop only? Flush draws, two pairs and sets? He didnt raise them on the flop? He flops a flush draw maybe 5-6% the time and raises the nut/combo draws on flop a reasonable % so yes, I have him on mid PP, single pairs, Pair+SD some, and a few flush draws sprinkled in.

And thus yes, I would barrel turn folding many one diamond pairs + slight overpairs as that is the bulk of the V range IMO. (Not flush draws nor sets and two pair) We are definitely off on our assessment of villains range there and then obviously creates a different line to be taken.

Checking here to me allows the V to do whatever he pleases with single pairs and single diamonds as he should never think we would check a flush there. And I do not believe flush draws / sets etc. to be the larger chunk of his range. Not even close IMO.






4.

T9cc in MP
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$2/$5 FR (9 Handed) Hero gets dealt T 9 in MP with $850 stack.

UTG (somewhat TAG but on the looser side) raises to $15/$300. UTG+1 calls/$350 (Tight/Passive). Hero calls (Playing TAG but on a looser side today) $15. Two more callers in LP.

SB (relatively ABC TAG but a bit station-y) raises to $40/$470. BB Folds. Villain 1 calls. Villain 2 calls. Hero calls. Two LP players also call.

Flop ($245): 8 6 4

SB C-bets, $130/$430.

Villain 1 folds. Villain 2 folds.

Hero?
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BALUGAWHALE: Hand 4: This one is actually also right - i missed giving you a point on this one. My fault.


AINTNOLIMIT: Thank you sir.

AINTNOLIMIT: Take whatever line will give the higher FE. There probably is no FE here at all, but still I would take a shot at it by raising cbet to $295/call. Im representing the pseudo-minraise that players do with the nuts. Probably doesnt matter but still if anyone folded even 1-3% the time by outthinking themselves, then its higher EV for us than shoving. I dont see players folding overpairs to insta-shoves as they are transparent semi-bluffs to most OR better put, I think i get a few more % folds by the small raise on flop.







5.

Crazy action - 2/5$ - lost
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Table is playing very loose in general.
Almost every pot is strattled otb. Stacks range from $500 - 3k+
Just viewed a 2k+ pot shipped to bottom pair. (Action was 3b pot that went heads up. 3b player barreled 3 streets and was all in otr on a A57-J-10 board V calls w K5o to scoop)

Hero viewed as ABC $1900~
V.1 rock/tag $1500~
All other V super lag 500-3k$

V1 Utg +2 opens for 20$
Mp raises to $60
4 callers to hero in bb w 55 calls $60
Utg +2 re raises to $180
5 callers to hero who calls

Pot $1260
Flop KK5

Now this may seem like an obvious action but I was truly perplexed on the BEST action.

Hero?
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BALUGAWHALE: Hand 5: This is like the least likely game ever for it to get checked through, and apparently also a game in which somebody who picks up a FD / SD on the turn and binks river is always going broke. So, putting a bet in on the flop seems criminal. Your reasoning behind betting seems to be to protect your hand from 22-1 shots (some of which are lower than your 55 btw), which seems pretty bad when you've got a table of so-called "super lag" players ready to pour money in.

AINTNOLIMIT: I see multiway hands checked through on the flop. (Which is why I wont allow it). Many times players play super straightforward when multiway with fewer bluffs and fewer stabs. I wasnt freaked about a check through, but many weak players slowplay in EP if they have trips here looking for someone else to bet and Im not letting that happen. If i donk for 1/4 pot all sorts of great things can happen here both as value as well as bluff. We are 400bb deep with some at 300bb and others covering us. Im getting the ball rolling here myself right on the flop.

And notice, the flop DID in fact go checked thru as I thought it certainly could in live multiway pots. I find that super deep when flopping the nuts its best to get money on in as allowing any street to check thru like this was criminal to me. I would have easily won this hand big with my line, and hero lost the pot by getting fancy and checking the flop.









6.

AKc facing huge 3-bet shove
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1/2 cash game.

Straddle in the table. We don't have any info on the player in the straddle.

Dealt with AKc.

UTG limps 5$.

Hero raises only to 20$ since he is in on the btn.

Player in the straddle shoves 165$. UTG folds.

Do you call or fold in this case? I mean when you don't have an image on the Villain.

I called, but probably in cash games it is not EV+ to spread so many chips with AKc.


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BALUGAWHALE: Hand 6: An unknown (willing to straddle) who randomly shoves 82bb in preflop is either a guy with the stone nuts, or he's a guy who is there to get his degen gamble on. Given that you block the stone nuts and that you don't need him to be the degen guy very often, I'm pretty sure this is an easy call. Also it's a straddle pot so it's basically 33bb preflop, which makes it an uber-snap.

AINTNOLIMIT: OP says the table is playing passive with nobody overplaying hands or spewing. He said this later before I posted. You might have missed this. I think so.

This villain shoved 82bb over a $20 raise in a 1-2 live game with passive players only? I wouldnt call that with someone elses money. Seriously. And please note: The AVG. 1-2 player does not adjust mentally to the straddle making the game 41bb deep instead of 82bb deep. He sees his $200 stack as $200 unless he is a 2+2 er and the like. When he shoves his stack, its almost always AA KK IMO esp when there is very little in the pot. Thats just my opinion but I feel very strongly about it.







7.

Deep-stack with KK
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Effective stacks £800. £1/2 table, but everyone is straddling so essentially playing like a 2/5 game. Lots of money on the table, plenty of action but no spazz-tards.

Hero (£800) on the Button: White, middle-aged guy, dressed like a banker. Mainly 'cause he's a banker. Started out with £400 and doubled up but not by winning any big pots. I haven't had to show down any bluffs. If anyone is paying close attention they'll notice I am rarely (if ever) in a hand with junk when I'm out of position. I have only 3-bet once pre-flop in the last hour or so and everyone folded.

Villain (£1600) Big Blind: Table's big winner has been playing fairly aggressively but always seems to have the goods when called. Hasn't shown a single bluff that I've seen. That said, won the majority of his stack in one huge three-way pot with pocket Kings vs JT on a KTTxx board. He has three-bet once or twice in the last couple of hours (including with the Kings hand).

Hero is on the button. Loose/agro UTG1 player (been the most active and 'gambily' at the table)- makes it ¥12. Two callers, and folds to me. I three-bet to £45.

(tough spot here - if anyone has been paying attention, they should realize I'm not 3-betting light or just squeezing with some raggy suited ace. I don't want to blow people out of the hand, which is what I think happens if I make it £60 or more).

Villain 4! to £120. Folds to us on Button.

We could fold, flat, 5!, or ship. Merits/demerits for each line?

I 5! to £295.

Villain 6! ships. Pot is about £1,100, £500 for us to call.

Nobody does this with QQ or worse, right?

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BALUGAWHALE: Hand 7: This one is particularly rough. There's no real explanation of *why* you want to 5-bet CIB, other than that it allows you to fold to his 6-bet (which I'm still not 100% convinced is correct even after you 5-bet). You don't mention the fact that, once he makes it 120, it's 75p with 680 behind (in other words, you have set odds), or that if he's ever bluffing, flatting could allow him to bluff off in a significant way. Unless he flats your 5-bets OOP (unlikely I think), letting him bluff / value own himself / keep stacks deep is almost certainly the better option. I'd only 5-bet KK there if I was stoked about seeing a raise.

AINTNOLIMIT: This is a patented play of mine (at least I have never heard or seen anyone else tout this play) when this deep and the villain is the normal live player who is not Brian Rast caliber. This is 1-2 live, with a villain who I am quite sure will not shove 400bb with AK, nor QQ. I click back 5 bet small since I feel that its fine to place 20% stack in pot and fold when you are certain you are up against AA. Here in a 1-2 game if you click back to 230 over a villains 4 bet from blinds and he 6 bets, that is AA like 100% of the time. No white blackbirds mixed in there anywhere. AA is it. He will call or fold with AK, flat with QQ and 6 bet with AA.

I have done this as well as have had students doing this in live games successfully for a several years with great success reading players perfectly. Another close friend who plays at the Aria 3k 5-10 daily totally disagreed with me on this one, then 6 months later he apologized and said he has adopted the play since the V (even good ones) follow the line that I predicted all too often, allowing him to read them perfectly and pwn them with this play.

It works great except for some rare occasion you are playing villains on even higher levels who have seen your play a few times. Then - you may have to vary it. If you believe you know EXACTLY how the villain will react to the click back, then its a cinch from that point on.





8.

$2/$5 NL: Critique my flop semi-bluff
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$600 eff. I can haz 33 in CO. My image = TAG. HJ raises to $20. Only I call. V is a young, competent TAG who widens range substantially in LP. He also c-bets a high % of the time.

HU to the Flop: 4h5c6h Pot ~ $50
HJ c-bets $30...................

I raise to $120. I haven't raised anyone's c-bet since I sat down at this table which is 3-4 hours.

Good, bad? Why?


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BALUGAWHALE: Hand 8 we have already discussed.

AINTNOLIMIT: I have to assume that you agree that flatting 33 on button vs wide CO range is -EV IF set mining only which was the assumed situation here. If not let me know as that was my position as well. I would normally flat due to creative play post, but thats irrelevant for the OP in this forum I figured. Normally I do not get into higher level creative postflop plays with tiny pairs in the LSNL forum as much of the time the OP in this forum will not be on that level. I felt fairly sure that when the OP flatted here he was set mining only and it that assumption was incorrect, I would easily apologize and give a different answer.


AINTNOLIMIT: (reply in the thread) Fold preflop unless you see two others grabbing chips to call as well.

Raising flop is "meh" as it will never "hardly" fold out better.

I would flat flop and expect V to never barrel air on turn unless a paint/ace hits the turn.

I dont really understand the discussion of FE since I honestly doubt the villain folds 88 99 and better. Maybe he folds Ace/pair on board some, but thats a teenie part of his range. Lets look into the future. V calls with TT. Turn brick. V checks.

Now what? If we bet, I still say the villain calls often since the draw missed. If we check, we just signed a contract to lose the pot 80%+ the time on river. Rarely do players go ahead and give credit to sets etc, when draws miss. I think we get true credit for exactly what we have--a draw.


I hope this was at least enjoyable for those taking the time to read and compare, making their own assessments as they go along. The process that I use when making each street decision is honed to a sharp edge IMO. For this reason I have an inordinate high % of spot on hand reads, thus optimal decisions.



Bill "AintNoLimit" Hubbard

Note: I am in the process of making a 4 part 100 question quiz. The quiz will be made up of 25 hands per segment, along with the actual results. These will be real hands, mostly from various 2+2 forums where I can list the actual link to. While short term results mean little, a test of 100 hands with results should hold at least a fair amount of weight thus the contestant can paper out his EV answer as well as check the actual results to see how he would have fared in real time play. I look forward to completing this monumental task of documenting the 100 hands in question. These ALL will be very tough hands. A super tough quiz it will be for sure.

For other information and products available at ANLpoker.com, email Bill@anlpoker.com.

Thanks

RESULTS to the above, should anyone be interested in them.



HAND 1- VILLAIN HAD 66


HAND 2- villain has Ac 2c


HAND 3 - OP actually called the $150 on the turn , river came K

OP checked and villain bet $375 and OP folded



HAND 4- Spoiler:

The OP wrote:

It seems that folding on flop this hand would be bad. So it's between flatting, raising and shoving.

Hero shoved. The two LP players folded and was back on Villain. V tanked for a long time. The other EP players folded out of turn waiting for V to make a decision. V finally called. Turn A . River 2 . Hero shows. Villain shows A Q and scoops.

I also like the comment about raising maybe better then shoving here, something for me to think about.

Thanks all.




HAND 5-

OP wrote:

This game as a whole is by far the most active game I play in my area. People buy in deep and reload deep.

Most of the player pool are actually good thinking players who play deep comfortably and like action. There are a few bit pocket lag tards. I tend to sit back and try not to OVER gamble but at this game it's difficult not to want to splash around in a lot of pots as if it were an aggressive bingo game.

Many times I'm in the co-bb with very mediocre hands 92s 104s 57o Q9o etc... With an ep raise to 25-40 and there's 6 callers to me. ( Theres very little squeeze success when the game is in full juicy mode.). Naturally this is a solid fold. But when you know if you bingo 2p + it's pay day. (Gamble kicks in)

There's def something to be said about just mucking my 55 pre flop here. And in most games I feel fine doing so, but at these super deep, over juicy, gamooler lag conventions folds are hard to find. ( probably a leak)

I was first to act and like I said earlier was confused/excited/ boner tilting table mode. And with out tanking to long giving up info on my hand I felt that a c/r would be ideal.
Thinking MOST Kx hands bet something here. The rock W/ JJ+ possibly looking for the Kx hands takes a 2-300$ stab.

I checked and action went as follows
Check
Check
Check
Check
Check
Check

I cried a little inside but hey.. I'm pretty sure my boat is quite nutty and I'm betting out on the turn. "F all this checking." Rings out in my head.

Turn.... K
Board. KKK 5
Now the boner is gone my posture slouches and I'm check folding.

I checked the rock leads for $450

Action behind him jams for $12-1300 all day and the rock tank calls.

Rock. -JJ
MP. - QQ

I'm thinking I was possibly destined to lose this hand.
Considering the showdown cards a c-bet for any thing less than all my chips is most likely getting called by one of them and game over.

This post wasn't intended for a "boohoo" for me look I lost a hand "did I play bad"
It was purely intended for deep post flop nutt stragety. I'm glad my thoughts were on point with the masses.

Thanks all

results 6 thru 8 continued.




6.

AKcc is shoved on
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/16...shove-1419123/

Hand 6: An unknown (willing to straddle) who randomly shoves 82bb in preflop is either a guy with the stone nuts, or he's a guy who is there to get his degen gamble on. Given that you block the stone nuts and that you don't need him to be the degen guy very often, I'm pretty sure this is an easy call. Also it's a straddle pot so it's basically 33bb preflop, which makes it an uber-snap.

AINTNOLIMIT: OP says the table is playing passive with nobody overplaying hands or spewing. He said this later before I posted. You might have missed this. I think so.

This villain shoved 82bb over a $20 raise in a 1-2 live game with passive players only? I wouldnt call that with someone elses money. Seriously.







7.

KK Deep issue
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/16...ck-kk-1412364/

Hand 7: This one is particularly rough. There's no real explanation of *why* you want to 5-bet CIB, other than that it allows you to fold to his 6-bet (which I'm still not 100% convinced is correct even after you 5-bet). You don't mention the fact that, once he makes it 120, it's 75p with 680 behind (in other words, you have set odds), or that if he's ever bluffing, flatting could allow him to bluff off in a significant way. Unless he flats your 5-bets OOP (unlikely I think), letting him bluff / value own himself / keep stacks deep is almost certainly the better option. I'd only 5-bet KK there if I was stoked about seeing a raise.

AINTNOLIMIT: This is a patented play of mine when this deep and the villain is the normal live player who is not Brian Rast caliber. This is 1-2 live, with a villain who I am quite sure will not shove 400bb with AK, nor QQ. I click back 5 bet small since I feel that its fine to place 20% stack in pot and fold when you are certain you are up against AA. Here in a 1-2 game if you click back to 230 over a villains 4 bet from blinds and he 6 bets, that is AA like 100% of the time. No white blackbirds mixed in there anywhere. AA is it. He will call or fold with AK, flat with QQ and 6 bet with AA.

I have done this as well as have had students doing this in live games successfully for a several years with great success reading players perfectly. Another close friend who plays at the Aria 3k 5-10 daily totally disagreed with me on this one, then 6 months later he apologized and said he has adopted the play since the V (even good ones) follow the line that I predicted all too often, allowing him to read them perfectly and pwn them with this play.

It works great except for some rare occasion you are playing villains on even higher levels who have seen your play a few times. Then - you may have to vary it. If you believe you know EXACTLY how the villain will react to the click back, then its a cinch from that point on.





8.

33 preflop
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/16.../#post42625380

Hand 8 we have already discussed.

AINTNOLIMIT: I have to assume that you agree that flatting 33 on button vs wide CO range is -EV IF set mining only which was the assumed situation here. If not let me know as that was my position as well. I would normally flat due to creative play post, but thats irrelevant for the OP in this forum I figured.

One of you is an elite world class poker player and one of you pirates essays off elite world class poker players- you guys are similar in that you both know what poker is and you both have made money off what Balugawhale has written... Can we at least get a copy and paste of the justin Oliver bracelet thing? This "2 poker coaches" thing is getting a bit tired...

Did you guys know that ANL knows a guy that won a bracelet?


In before new cut/paste of a poker fraud and a poker coach compare a bla I know a bracelet winner bla here's my 15$ quiz bla I crush ganes all the time bla


Come on justin Oliver cut and paste one time!

If you follow the theme of this thread get ready for another 15 post of the same reviews written the exact same way, followed by the cut and paste of the same hand histories lol...with a justin oliver ad thrown in.

Why can't you guys accept that his students post because he actually helped them? (including Justin, who is much more than just a guy he knows, as much as it hurts you to admit it)

His students post because we know he is a very good player who is excellent at communicating that knowledge. I don't know why it's so hard to see why that's valuable to people. I also don't understand why you care. If you're interested in being a student, fine. If not, why do you bother with this thread? There are many of us that are very happy with Bill's coaching.

Hey Bill, why don't you post an online graph or something to show some of these people that you're a successful player?

With the daunting schedule of coaching i have, its really hard to get a ton of hands in. I was wanting to get 100k sample before posting but upon your request here ya go.

I would never post live results as there are so many "haters" who would rip the data to shreds, however here is my online graph which is indisputable.

For those wanting 6max online coaching, email bill@anlpoker.com for pricing and information. Note: I have
an unconventional style which crushes conventional style play.

The proof is in the pudding boyz and girlz.

I thought you were based in the US?

I have residence in Montreal Quebec, Virginia, Nevada and California. The two main are Montreal and Nevada. I travel often to other areas as well, but mostly to the above. Thank god for Skype, so I can coach from anywhere.

Besides, even when in US, are you not aware that Carbon, Bovada and other sites readily accept US players. Cmon. Thats common knowledge.

Are those results over all sites then?

Well of course. All inclusive of sites i play. Of all online sites that i have played or other, my preference would be Full Tilt, Bodog and Merge. I dont care for Stars that much and Party Im not aware of.

My unconventional strategies (which so many say would not work at online) do work well, and Im super happy about that (as well as the online students are).

Why does it say the hands are Stars only on both screenshots then? If you've set up an alias for multiple sites it would say "alias".

This is my problem too. Why would you claim these are hands from a variety of sites when they are clearly just from stars? just another odd occurrence to add to the many in this thread.

they are NOT from just Stars. Its the way they are reported which APPEARS that they are from Stars. And BTW, the chart is about what the winrate is, not about where played. I cannot help the way the hands converted are reports. Stars is the toughest site IMO, so if you want to believe they all come from stars then fine. But the truth is they do not. I dont control the HM2.

I think you should maybe get yourself over to the hm2 thread as you seem to have a pretty unique and weird issue there. Who knows what else is going wrong with your database?!

That is not unique at all. That's exactly what my converted hands look like. The converter has to turn them into a format that the tracking software recognizes, and it uses Stars format.

I don't think anyone has actually questioned your WR.

Nevertheless, we are talking about a very small sample size of 250 hours.

To put in context of how meaningless that sample size is, if you only look at hands 10000 to 40000, you're actually a losing player in a block that represents more than 50% of your overall hands.

So I don't see how your chart proves anything about your worth even as a player.

It does however support the notion that you are a very result oriented person.