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Old 01-11-2017, 09:26 PM   #1
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Hi there 2p2,

My name is Donald, better known as d7o1d1s0. I've been playing poker professionally for the last 5-6 years, mainly on stars but I've also played some volume on 888, party and FTP (before it closed). Unfortunately my HM2 database corrupted, so instead of HM2 graphs I'm going to share a couple of screenshots a friend shared with me from Russian PTR:




I'm proud to say that in each of the last 4 years I've managed to make in excess of $100k playing poker. If you'd like to know more about me and my journey through the stakes, the best place to find is in my PGC threads, here and here.

For the last few months I've been putting a lot of my focus into creating the best possible coaching for profit program. To that end, I've recruited two of my good poker friends who also happen to be world class players. I asked them for a bio and some graphs, here's what they said about themselves:

Darrell aka FourSixFour

I have been playing poker professionally for around two and a half years, with a main focus on 6max cash games as well as some HU. In 2014 I went from 100nl to putting in some hands at 1knl and have remained a mid/high stakes grinder since then. I have never owned a script, and start almost every game I play at regular tables. While this decision is likely to cost me short term winnings I believe this decision gives me much more longevity in poker, starting tables with the best regulars at each stake is a great way to improve and I enjoy the competitive aspect of the game. I think this approach can bring great value to my coaching, being able to hold your own against other regulars is something which will greatly benefit your winrate.

Graph of current db (~last 14 months, 90% of which are hands from Pokerstars at 400nl-2knl):



Cameron aka ishter11

I started playing poker recreationally in 2013 during college, playing the odd STT amongst friends. I soon found online and hopped straight into 25z, where I was a modest winner just clicking about. After I graduated, I decided to take poker more seriously, ultimately hoping to make some reasonable money at this game. I now play full-time, mostly online MSNL but I also travel for some high-value live stops.

last two years:

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Why would anyone want to join your CFP?

When I first deposited online in roughly 2009, poker forums were full of people proclaiming that poker is dead. In 2017, these chorus' are louder than ever, yet time and time again new players manage to climb the ranks and make hundreds of thousands of dollars per year, while maintaining complete autonomy over their lives. It is true that poker is more difficult than it has ever been, and the knowledge barrier for new players is now very large, but it's also important not to lose sight of how lucky we are to make money at a fun, ultra-complex video game.
My goal with this CFP is to create the absolute best route to mid-highstakes 6max NL. I aim to provide everything an ambitious poker player needs, including world class technical instruction, assistance with software resources and mental game support, delivered through skype, and through my website, where players can privately discuss hands and watch videos.
I'm looking for players who play at least 50k hands per month, at least breaking even 25 or 50nl. Most importantly, I'm looking for players with the attitude required to make it to the top.
If you'd like to apply, message me on here or email d7sarmy@gmail.com with the following information:

- Name
- Age
- Your results from the last 6 months (with screenname(s) visible)
- Your living and financial situation - specifically what would happen if you didn't win at poker for 3-6 months?
- A brief synopsis of your poker career to date
- Have you ever been coached before?
- What is your typical study routine?
- Why do you think CFP is the best solution for you?
- Contact information

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FAQs

- How long does the deal last?
Minimum of 12 months. This is the one element i really can't be flexible on. In order for coaching you to be worth my time, I need to have your action for a considerable number of hands, but I don't want to create a situation where you're only incentive is to grind hands - quality is as or more important than quantity. Therefore I ask students to commit to 12 months of at least 50k hands/month.

- What is the % profit split?
The standard deal I offer is as follows: we split everything (including rakeback) 50/50 on a monthly basis, but you can earn bonus % depending on volume/winrate:
-for every 10k hands you play in excess of 50k, you get a bonus 2% (maximum 8% bonus)
-for every 1evbb you win at in excess of 4, you get a bonus 2% (maximum 8% bonus)
In exceptional circumstances I can show some flexibility in these numbers to reflect students already showing outstanding winrate and/or volume.

- How many sessions will I get?
This is a very strange question I've been asked a lot. The best thing about CFP is that the priorities of coach and student are perfectly aligned - both parties want to student to be the most profitable player they can be as soon as possible. If a student needs a session, the last thing I'd want to do is wait for them to play X hands.
Instead, the typical situation will work like this - in your first month, we will work together very closely - looking at your database, how you use information and identifying the areas where we can quickly increase your profitbility. These first few months will be by far the most intense for you as the student as we break down and rebuild how you play poker. The reason for this should be obvious - on day 1 my incentive to coach you is enormous as I have your action for the next 364 days. On day 360 however, my incentive to coach you is much lower, plus the amount I can teach you is much lower. For this reason, your sessions will be heavily concentrated on those first few months, beyond that you will receive sessions less frequently, mainly if some particular element of your game needs worked on or if you're having an extended downswing.

- What kind of stuff is on your website?
I've been adding content to the video library since early November. The videos so far include numerous session reviews (of my play and of student's play), HH analysis, a 3-part series on using PIOsolver time-efficiently, mental game concepts and database analysis. The aim of the video library is to ensure all students have plenty of material to work on between sessions with coaches.

- I play on XXX site, am i elligible?
Currently, I'd rather only take on students playing on stars. There are two reasons for this - firstly, with stars i have the ability to request account audits and download your hand histories directly from their servers - these are two reasonable safeguards against the kind of shenanigans that sometimes go down making deals with people on poker forums. The second is that, despite the fact that stars is probably the most difficult site, our long-term goal isn't to have you bumhunting a bunch of euro sites for short term $ at the expense of your long term progression.

- I'm currently a coach/make videos for a site/have some CFP students of my own, am I elligible?
No. Poker is a game of information - the reason I'm willing to coach my students is that I have a share of their action. If you're coaching people in turn, the information diseminates further and further into situations I have no financial interest in, which is not acceptable. While I will take any reasonable action to help you become a better player, it is important to remember that this is a business agreement first and foremost - if you aren't putting in the level of work I expect, if you're sharing information or in some other way negatively effecting things, you will be cut.

- Do you coach for hourly?
No. I don't believe in coaching for hourly at all tbh - it creates a strange situation where coaches want to extract as many paid hours as possible in advance, and drip-feed information as slowly as possible. I've paid many coaches throughout my poker career, I'd say only one of them delivered value (I paid him $30/hour to teach me how to beat 50nl full ring). I've also been part of 3 CFP programs as a student, and in all 3 cases I got the better end of the deal (despite making my coaches a lot of money). It's quite a rare thing for someone to move up through the stakes completely without help, I think the best way to do it is through a CFP program, hence I am very unlikely to accept offers from people trying to pay for access to the site or pay for X sessions.

- Is there a maximum size your group will reach?
At the start of this year I set a goal to grow the program to include 20 students. However I've had a large amount of interest just through word of mouth, so I'm now aware that maintaining an excellent experience for the student will be the main challenge, even while accepting only the best applicants. While I won't make any concrete guarantees about the size of the group, what I can say is that the structure I'm using rewards coaches with equity in the enterprise (so they also have direct financial motivation to ensure your success) and, crucially, always leaves room to add more coaches should the need arise. I'm in the fortunate position of knowing a lot of world class players who would make great coaches, so there's every chance the coaching roster expands further as we take on more students.

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Thanks for taking the time to read this long thread, if you have any comments or questions you feel I haven't answered please feel free to post below.

Gl out there!

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Old 01-13-2017, 03:31 PM   #2
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Re: d7sarmy.com CFP - learn with d7o1d1s0, FourSixFour and ishter11

Just stopping in to vouch for all three of these guys. I've spoken to them all regularly about poker at various points in my playing career, and they've each helped me a ton. These guys are all crushing the games now, in 2016, and anyone who takes this opportunity and puts the time in will be getting an extremely good deal. If you take a scroll through this coaching forum, I can count 4 coaching for profit opportunities, two of which are absolute jokes and borderline scams, and none of which compare to the calibre of the team involved in this. TLDR; These three guys are extremely good at poker and trustworthy, and represent by far the best CFP opportunity on the market.
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Old 01-15-2017, 02:41 PM   #3
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Does the cut remains the same for the entire deal? or will it gradually decreases over time depending on student results?
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Old 01-17-2017, 04:13 PM   #4
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Just thought I would mention that i know all 3 of these guys, and would attest that you would be hard pressed to find better coaches in the current poker climate.

d7 in particular is putting a lot of hours into this, and is extremely passionate that it becomes successful.

All 3 could charge hourly amounts to coach which would be vastly higher than this current CFP deal, so I think it's a great deal for those who want to climb into MSNL.
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Old 02-05-2017, 01:06 PM   #5
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Thanks for the kind (unsolicited) words guys, much appreciated

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Does the cut remains the same for the entire deal? or will it gradually decreases over time depending on student results?
The cut remains the same for the entire deal, yes.

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I've been having a high number of applications, and for that reason I will no longer be taking on guys playing 25nl. Realistically to get onto the program at this stage you will need to be playing and doing ok at 50nl minimum.
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I want to vouch for d7o1d1s0. As I remember - One of the coolest and hard working person I’ve met in life. Huge nit though…, but in a good way, by that I mean – not a spaz, professional attitude.

If I would have more time on my hands, I would like to try and get in to this deal with d7o1d1s0 and his partners. I recommend for others this deal, as d7o1d1s0 racked in tons of experience over the years, received coaching himself from high-profile players/coaches. He can certainly improve anybody’s game.
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Old 02-28-2017, 01:37 AM   #7
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Early days still but this project is coming along nicely and we still have room for more students. Everything is up and running and the environment we've collectively created should be one that is (hopefully) conducive to learning and success!

Feel free to message any of us if you have any questions or would like more info
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Old 03-09-2017, 02:42 PM   #8
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I've been having a lot of enquiries from potential candidates about how my current students are getting on. Here's an update from the first student I started working with, who's moved from playing mainly 100nl to shotting 500nl in 4 months:

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Here's a YTD update from my time in D7's army.

Started November 7th 2016

Total won: $35,708.17

Here's the giraffe:



Really pleased with how things are going and i am determined to make over $100k while I'm in the group!

My overall EV bb is 5.84, but I'm confident it's higher than that with my current rate of improvement.

Here's the breakdown by limits:



If anyone has any questions about my time with D7, please feel free to PM me, I highly recommend it to anyone that wants to improve really fast.
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Old 05-02-2017, 05:16 PM   #9
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Quick update - we are now accepting applicants from american players! If you or anyone you know is interested, feel free to send me and email or PM
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I've been having a lot of enquiries from potential candidates about how my current students are getting on. Here's an update from the first student I started working with, who's moved from playing mainly 100nl to shotting 500nl in 4 months:
so what about other students? any improvements?
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Old 05-08-2017, 03:07 PM   #11
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I am very interested but I can not message you (probably due to a lack of posts), Could you try and message me please so we can talk further
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Old 05-16-2017, 03:31 AM   #12
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so what about other students? any improvements?
i thought i would chime in

i am very happy with quality of program and feel like my game has improved a lot from a technical perspective. In poker however there is a lot of mental game issues that many players have including myself. I mean making decisions because one is too emotionally attached to results etc. My results have been average in terms of $ won, however over the past 2 month they have improved a great deal when ive worked on mental game combined with the technical improvements.

So now after starting program at 50z i play 200z, i guess im going ok

gl with your endeavours

ps. you can see progress in my pgc
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Old 05-17-2017, 04:54 PM   #13
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Thanks very much for the kind words Max! (FWIW I didn't ask Max to post ITT, hadn't actually seen the question)

I think our CFP offering continues to get stronger every day. On top of the now quite extensive video library (52 videos on the site, probably an average of 40mins or so per vid), we've started distributing a decent chunk the coaching sessions we have with students so that everyone can benefit.

As for the progress of our students, we currently have 10 winning students out of 11, I'm fairly happy with everyone's progress (obviously everyone has room for improvement). I don't keep records of what games people were playing before they started, but I think basically everyone is playing higher than when they started.

I've learned a lot since I launched this project - the prevalence of misapplying theory concepts, the importance of mental game, as well as some technical stuff about how 50-200nl plays. The main factor in the success of any one student is still their attitude and work ethic, but I feel very confident that working with our group will greatly accelerate the progress of any smallstakes player with a willingness to learn.
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Hi guys, I'm going to be coaching for the stable until at least January.
For those who don't know me, I play on stars as you-mad-br0, and used to produce popular videos on Cardrunners (RIP).

These are all my results from my current database on Stars;





And this year on Stars, having moved a lot of volume to other sites;



Unlike many coaches in this forum, I am happy to forward all my Stars hand to a mod or another reputable player to verify my results. You will not find other players doing this, because many coaches do not post legitimate results. It's another reason why Stars results are more important than all others, because you can verify them beyond doubt with the email and forward feature.

What do I bring to the stable?

I see my role in the stable is to help people bridge the gap between 50nl and 100nl, and 100nl to 200nl. After that, D7, 464, and ishter all have experience crushing the higher stakes, with ishter just completeing 1 million hands at 500z at 6bb/100.
I have done 100's of hours of private coaching, and I am also an expert with PIO, and have coached people playing up to 5knl on how to use it, so I do a lot of sessions heavily focused on teaching students how to study effectively using it as a tool.
We also do a lot of group study and hh review in the stable, and I often coordinate group study sessions. I would say that in the stable we have probably 4 of the top 10 200z regs, so this kind of collaborative learning is a really quick way to think of new lines, spot new leaks, and optimise your play even further.

Why is D7s army the best?

I completely believe there is no better place to learn to crush cash than within this stable. For anyone who is beating 50nl, I have absolute confidence that with the resources available to them,
they will be beating 200nlz at a minimum by the end of the deal (and by extension, beating almost all reg table games around up to 1k!)


For anyone unsure, I implore you to have a scroll through this forum. Look at the coaches available, look at the CFP deals available. No one has close to the line up that we have. Half the coaches aren't even winning anymore, lots of them make outlandish claims and refuse to back up their results. Here, we have 4 coaches crushing the hardest games around right now, and students who are also doing so.
Yes, if you are losing at 2nl, this is not for you, go and burn some money with BPC. But if you are a serious professional wanting to put the study in and move up the stakes, we are by a country mile the best option.

I wanted to share some video content, but most of the content is technical and genuinely far too valuable to share in a forum. Below though you can see the first 5 minutes of a 100z primer I made, to give you an idea of the 'soft' stuff we talk about;


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Old 09-06-2017, 07:26 PM   #15
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all of this sounds so good ****
need to work harder and move out of micros

dont you dare to shut this down
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Old 09-09-2017, 04:05 AM   #16
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Hey Plastic Elephant,

i was linked to your comment and your comment about "burning money on NL2" (fwiw, the rest you say about other coaches i totally agree with). I have trained several people starting at NL2 (publicly) who made more in 9 month than you in your full database.

So please don't be so arrogant about people starting at micro stakes, NL2. They pass you pretty fast. Some play for fun, again, no reason to make fun of recreational players.

Last 5 days i have spent more than 70% of your DB's winnings on our yearly meetup. So please don't try to be a tough internet boy, it's not working. You're playing in baby league.


About Plastic Elephant as a coach:

He used to have a 2p2 thread, but nobody wanted to get coached by him and he couldn't afford the 150/month to keep the thread open.
Being so unsuccessful, he had to bait people into coaching with a promotion by promising to give black babies in Africa money. This is not a joke. That didn't work either, of course. So yeah, pretty sad creature.

Even if he is good enough as a player to coach micros, he is bad as a coach and even worse as a person.

So yeah, go and teach people how to do pushups, that gets people motivated and inspired :eyeroll:


To the people/stable running this thread:

I have no beef with you and wish you success in your venture. However, you are responsible for the people you associate with.

If Plastic Elephant apologizes for his comment, I will stop telling the truth about him (how bad he is as a coach) and will feel no need to tell the truth and give proof about former BPC's NL2 student's success.

As you might know it's a policy of BPC to not comment in other coaches threads unless they specifically feel the need to mention us. Your coach has done that before and he got his spanking back then as well... some people said it's the reason why he failed.
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Old 09-09-2017, 03:11 PM   #17
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I will defend PlasticElephant and say I've purchased some coaching from him in the past and was happy with what I received.
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Hey Plastic Elephant,

i was linked to your comment and your comment about "burning money on NL2" (fwiw, the rest you say about other coaches i totally agree with). I have trained several people starting at NL2 (publicly) who made more in 9 month than you in your full database.

So please don't be so arrogant about people starting at micro stakes, NL2. They pass you pretty fast. Some play for fun, again, no reason to make fun of recreational players.

Last 5 days i have spent more than 70% of your DB's winnings on our yearly meetup. So please don't try to be a tough internet boy, it's not working. You're playing in baby league.


About Plastic Elephant as a coach:

He used to have a 2p2 thread, but nobody wanted to get coached by him and he couldn't afford the 150/month to keep the thread open.
Being so unsuccessful, he had to bait people into coaching with a promotion by promising to give black babies in Africa money. This is not a joke. That didn't work either, of course. So yeah, pretty sad creature.

Even if he is good enough as a player to coach micros, he is bad as a coach and even worse as a person.

So yeah, go and teach people how to do pushups, that gets people motivated and inspired :eyeroll:


To the people/stable running this thread:

I have no beef with you and wish you success in your venture. However, you are responsible for the people you associate with.

If Plastic Elephant apologizes for his comment, I will stop telling the truth about him (how bad he is as a coach) and will feel no need to tell the truth and give proof about former BPC's NL2 student's success.

As you might know it's a policy of BPC to not comment in other coaches threads unless they specifically feel the need to mention us. Your coach has done that before and he got his spanking back then as well... some people said it's the reason why he failed.
Not point going into depth in replying to this, find anyone who's had coaching from me who will say it hasn't been a good investment and maybe your comment will have weight (hint, you won't.) Spending a lot of money on a meetup isn't hard when you take $500 deposits for each student. I closed my coaching thread because coaching 20 hours a week was enough for me whilst I was also playing and living in one of the best places in the world, I didn't need any more students.
We are focusing on different clientele, so no point fighting any more. Anyone with a tough choice, watch my Cardrunners videos, watch ishters RIO videos, then go on BPC youtube.

I wish you good luck in future Gordon.
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Being so unsuccessful, he had to bait people into coaching with a promotion by promising to give black babies in Africa money. This is not a joke. That didn't work either, of course. So yeah, pretty sad creature.

Even if he is good enough as a player to coach micros, he is bad as a coach and even worse as a person.
Lmao actually just read this in reference to me giving a % of my coaching revenue and winnings to a charity buying mosquito nets in Africa. No comment needed imo.
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Shockingly enough you were not able to produce one (!) before-after review where there was a publicly documented progress. In all that time, man.

Dude, with supposedly 20hours weekly, not even ONE real result? Please don't dig up some buddies or show pictures of mosquito nets. Just show a damn loser you turned into a winner (not even asking for big winner...).

You're right about different clientele, when I have coached and in some cases still mentor some of the worlds best . None of those people would touch you.
I'm just teaching you a lesson here.


It's hard work man. I encourage you to do this. Just be transparent and don't hide behind fancy talks and "take a break and do pushup advice".

Once you have the first student to show real before-after change and results (publicly documented), I'll be the first to applaud. Even if it's not 100k in 9months which BPC has done several times, which is more than your whole DB...lol.

Your fellow mates have never said a bad/impolite word.
Of course people should take a look at our youtube account. But most importantly, results is the only thing matters, not HOW.


Once you understand the difference between cheap talk and helping people CHANGE, i guarantee you will look at things in a different way. You wouldn't be the first to apologize to me.
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Anyone with a tough choice, watch my Cardrunners videos, watch ishters RIO videos, then go on BPC youtube.

I wish you good luck in future Gordon.
Lmao, actually just read this. Anyone with a tough choice:

Check BPC's student's results vs Plastic Elephants
(hint: you will find plenty at BPC, from dads to young students... and you will not find any from Plastic Elephant)

Does anything else really matter? I don't think so.

You having done Cardrunners videos is not really something to brag about. Remember, they went BUSTO, perhaps because they hired people like you. Aka, whatever they gave people to watch was NOT good enough to pay 30/month for (!!!). You were one of few producers, so you were likely not even worth $1/month to watch. That's 50% of a buy-in at NL2, so even that people were not willing to spend to watch you.
So please, stop this pathetic lines "my stuff is too good to put on youtube". Dude, people were not even willing to pay $1. Your stuff isn't even good enough for the garbage can.


It's funny, this other guy who also has some chip on his shoulder (forgot his name, british guy, law student)... he was also a coach of a site that went busto. So funny.

For all non-business people: If your local bakery goes busto, it's one thing. Margins are tight. You can run a poker coaching site for 10 euro/month (low low budget). It's impossible to go out of business unless you suck really really hard. I mean, really really hard. It's probably as hard as (literally) f***ing yourself. You have to be stupid, unlucky and a huge freak at the same time.
Now if you ask me why somebody calls themselves Plastic Elephant, you might know the answer.

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Old 09-11-2017, 05:12 PM   #22
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Your embarrassing yourself now.
'Cardrunners closed down, so all their coaches must be terrible.'
'Guy gives money to children in Africa, what a pathetic human being.'

Two of the links you've made ITT ^. (For anyone who's wondering, unsuprisingly the coaches weren't part of the management team at cardrunners.)
I think you've done enough to ensure anyone smart will not choose to work with you, but fwiw I've coached some of your ex students, including some of the 'top' ones. I just don't beg for graphs from everyone I coach, a lot of the guys I've worked with are highstakes players who want help with solvers, and unsurprisingly don't want the rest of their game to know that they've became proficient with them.

I haven't worked with any guys playing nl2, but I'm sure if I got 50 of them to pay me $500 deposit one of them would get to highstakes and then I could post his pretty graph and keep the rest of the deposits too.

This is just clogging up the thread now, so my replies are done. Hopefully anyone reading this will find it easy enough to work out who they want to work with.
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Old 09-12-2017, 04:19 AM   #23
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Bad excuse for not having even ONE (!) verified before-after review. You revert to talk.

My first 5 students all made the 100k btw, 100% success rate. All public that's why you can't deny this fact. People like you even made fun of them. It's there for everybody to read.
You don't need 50 people to produce one winner. That's how YOU think, because you're imited in ability and vision.

I took 5, everything public. Everybody knew where they were in life and poker.

We won anyways because that's what i do. I win, motivated by arrogant people like yourself. And more important than "do pushups and drink enough water" is that mentality, which you simply won't be able to teach, because you don't have it.

You just need to be a good coach who can turn a loser into a winner. You have not done this once, damn, not even one time (!). Remember, even a blind chicken finds a kernel. You're worse.

About CardRunners:
Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses . First you were so proud, now you put the fault on the management. You throw people pretty fast under the bus. Another reason you can't be trusted btw... No backbone man. Lousy character.

Anyways, you know that those same people...the management...those you threw conveniently under the bus.... those people which couldn't keep a video site alive were the same people that hired hacks like yourself. Coincidence?!
Hey, many years ago i was a member. I credit a lot of my early understanding to them. Not all coaches are terrible, you certainly are without a doubt.

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Hopefully anyone reading this will find it easy enough to work out who they want to work with.

Option A:
1) Incredible publicly documented success, 100k in 9months for NL2 student(s)
2) Biggest thread in 2p2 coaching, year(s) long track record
3) Makes student money, doesn't need to publicly virtue signal black babies. Success speaks for itself
4) Loyal, is there for his "family", helps and defends his own
5) Spends in a few days more than Option B made in his life

Option B:
1) Words, words, no verified results, not even one
2) Had to close down thread, couldn't afford 150/month
3) Buys mosquito nets in Africa, bc warm feelings is all he can offer
4) Throws partners under the bus at first sight of problem
5) Owned


Anyways, i'm done as well unless you wish to continue the discussion. If you feel the need to spread lies or arrogant comments, i will feel the need to tell the truth.

Gl to the people running this thread tho. You can succeed, everybody makes hiring mistakes :

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Old 09-12-2017, 06:06 AM   #24
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Shockingly enough you were not able to produce one (!) before-after review where there was a publicly documented progress. In all that time, man.

Dude, with supposedly 20hours weekly, not even ONE real result? Please don't dig up some buddies or show pictures of mosquito nets. Just show a damn loser you turned into a winner (not even asking for big winner...).
Well, there's me for one. George started staking me in early 2014 when I was grinding 25z part-time. Within 12 months I grinding 200z full-time and shotting 500z. Since then I have made plenty of money from this game.

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You're right about different clientele, when I have coached and in some cases still mentor some of the worlds best . None of those people would touch you.
Yea and OtB_RedBaron is my plumber..
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Cute, his boyfriend finally coming out for defense.

Publicly documented where? You know people have a harder time believing you saying "oh yes, 3 years ago Georgie gave me $500 so i could play NL25". A little bit convenient - even if there is a low % of truth.
If that's the best you can do...a friend and 3 years ago. Boy. It's probably worse than i thought. I thought we might at least see some anonymous poster or some other charade. Funny that the first "review" in this thread here is from Plastic not disclosing former relationships. I know, this boring ethical stuff...

Everybody here knows the truth. If there was somebody publicly documented, we would know about it.

Anyways, no shame, just start today. Fire that 10yo doing your design (child labor is illegal or was it one of the black boys PlasticElephant sent mosquito nets?!) and earn some respect.
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