My query is calling it a 'no fee quit'. In my understanding, legally speaking, security deposits are held on trust with the holder of the deposit being a trustee, the holder of the beneficial interest being the depositor with a condition subsequent on their continuing to hold the beneficial interest. If, upon quitting, the deposit is forfeited, the action of quitting therefore effects a transfer of a beneficial interest in money from the student to BPC. I don't see how this can be called anything other than a 'fee'.

FWIW I would also take a security deposit and I think any non-micro CFP program which doesn't is... extremely trusting at best, and downright gullible at worst.

@Definite:
Well thx for input, our way is more clear tho and we get good feedback.

@Hyper:
You're lying. You don't have a 15bb winrate at NL5 (50k sample pls). You can prove it, verify screen name + that you are the account holder and i will send you $100 (which is more than you will ever make!).
Even in a competition among losers you would make 2nd place.

You did something so disgusting. My student Imachampion, who made 100k in 9months after being broke, he gave money to a poor person and then got robbed by that person he wanted to help. He asked me if all Latino culture is like that. I told him not, Latinos are very great people, i spent a good time of my life in South America. Shame that people like you ruin their reputation!

When even my biggest haters msg me and tell me how wrong you are, then you know you're wrong.

OK, time to get back to poker and improve people's lives...those shallow people like myself of course who want to make a LOT of money!

Do you mean the same $100 you robbed me in exchange for unworthy material? Nope, I don't care.

Ha! Don't play the super hero game. It doesn't fit you. But I understand it's part of the advertising.

I will help you with a nice ad: "Bumhunters are winners! Players who want to actually learn how to play are losers! 'Learn' how to bumhunt with Gordon*!"

Small print: "*Gordon is just a nickname. No scammer gives his real name."

It won't be as alienating as your real ads, but it would be far more sincere.

Btw, stop confusing poker and life. Not bumhunting 10+hours/day at a card game is not being a loser. Stop worshipping a game you wouldn't even play or "coach" if there were no money in it. But it's part of the advertising ofc.

me and my gf were about to have sex, then she had a quick look on my phone at some of hyperspheres posts coz i was laughing at them, and all of a sudden her pussy just shriveled up into this raisin like formation making it impossible for any penetration.

Thanks a lot hypersphere u ****.

That's an incredibly cringeworthy and embarrasing post for an adult to make.

pm me your address, ill send you a box of kleenex and some tampons pussy.

I'm sure your parents are very proud of you...

I just remembered a very sick commentary from one of his books. I deleted the book so I can't quote from it, but it said something like poor people are evil people because they need to be fed and they don't give anything in return. It was something like that. This guy is a wicked sociopath (but you should already know that just by reading his posts), and I don't understand how I believed his bull**** in the past.

I had no problem with him anyway, but he started with personal attacks, as he usually does when his "courses" are brought into question.

Btw, I was reading a blog from another ex-cfp member (a very hard working player who could never win while in the program), and I discovered another trick: If a player manages to win one month, he has to give half of his winnings to BPC. But if the next month he loses more than that, he would be losing overall... but BPC retain his previous month winnings!! So, the motto "we only win if you win" is blatantly false! If some player struggles for several months (like the blogger I was reading) he probably had to pay anyway (in his winning months), despite not being able to win overall.

Could you post a link? Any kind of proof? Otherwise you're impossible to be taken seriously.

I was in the program for a couple months. I had some success at nl2 and nl5, but was losing at nl10. I left, as I had to find another job, and started working 2 jobs (and just wasn't able to keep going with the program).

But it is true. You could start out winning, and pay your share of the winnings. But if you were to lose the same amount the next month, you wouldn't receive that payment back. Having said that, they help out in other ways. For example, when I was in the program, they allowed me to pay less than my requested share due to my personal situation. Work hard in the program and put in the hours, and they are willing to help out a little.

And I do think the personal attacks against hypersphere have gone too far. That's not what BPC is about, and does nothing but tarnish BPC's reputation. And hypersphere, you have every right to voice your displeasure. You were a paying customer, and were unhappy with what you received. But saying things, like calling Gordon a wicked sociopath, doesn't accomplish anything either.

Ok, we had out little theater and drama guys, it just got boring with only good news, 10k+ graphs and all that stuff!

I really miss the times of real haters with some substance.

But i have bad news, i gotta get back to work and enable people like Rylan to take money from people like...well you know who...

@Pokerbutt: You're funny, did make me laugh

@Husker: I rly also like british culture and how polite u guys are. I also laugh about jokes others find tasteless . It's the Internet, but i can respect both sides

@Philosopher: It's an accounting problem/nightmare. If you win $400 one month, then loose somth the next month. If it were extreme of course we pay (if it's outside our share ofc).
Other thing, you also personally know how i answer all questions and how the whole BPC team puts in a great amount of work!
I remember you asking lots of questions in coachings back then. I enjoyed it and you're a good guy. Yes, we need to take care of business, but i genuienly like and care for (most) people. You know that.

Sometimes you have to get into the mud even if it's nasty. We'd also rather focus 100% of our energy on teaching and improving the system, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.



Anyways, i hope everybody had their popcorn and fun, cuz it's over. Let's get back to work!

meh it's the internet and he's being weird.


lol, I guess you're missing me these days, great to hear!!

anyway ezgif.com is dumb. Here's the gif I made on hyperbadargumentmaker:

It's a guy called KP24.

He does that every time someone bring into question his coaching program. He usually attacks people who has not been part of cfp, but I was in the program, so his usual defences doesn't work. I know that every bad thing people say about the program is true. So he's even more offensive than usual.

The "wicked sociopath" comment is because I remembered his sick view on "evil" poor people. It was the only thing I disliked the first time I read his "Mind of the Millonaire" book, but now I think that the entire book is pure crap and alienating philosophy. I was not in my right mind when I chose to be coached (in any area) by such narrow-minded and morally inept man.

Btw, English is not my first language, so maybe my comments sound harder than they should. But he deserves them anyway.

I know KP24 well personally. I've talked to him extensively about Gordon's program and he is a fan. KP has to post this himself for it to be proof. He won't do that. I wouldn't post someone's private email to me publicly, but the first sentence begins with that there's no reason to not trust Gordon.

Nope, that's not how logic works. He can be nice and say good things about bpc, but that doesn't change the fact that the program didn't work for him (one of the most hard working players around here). He quitted the program after more than a year of no success.

You're not even close to being worth the time to tell you the near infinite amount of thing wrong with your logic.

You're also not worth the time to change the words in this .gif to "DON'T SAY A WORD UNTIL KP24 RESPONDS HIMSELF."

So I'll just link the .gif again. Follow it this time.



Goodbye.

Haha, yeah, i miss the times with masterhater Keyser .

Since we're on great terms these days Hyper has to take your role. But thx for trying to talk logic into him. I doubt it will work tho.
Somebody who has opinions about things he didn't even participate in... there is no help.

About KP24. He is a great guy and last info i have is that he has a very positive opinion about BPC. Haven't talked to him in a while.

We don't hide the fact that he did not turn $50 into 100k in 9 months, like Imachampion or Hansthegreat.
He did not have a 30k month like Steezy and killing it like Rylan and so many others. That is true!

Why? Well, first it's great that we have to defend ourselves for somebody not killing it at poker! That shows our high standards.

Funny, the only guy here being negative is somebody who did not even participate in the coaching, but has "his opinion".

Such is life!

In case we forget the good gospel!

I know players that don't believe in gordons style. But maybe it works for some people and others it doesn't or maybe its being applied wrong. What he should do is go on twitch and stream and show everyone how great of a player he is. It would bring him more students and quiet the naysayers. I never seen him stream would like to watch though. He can go on poker stars and play doug polk heads up at 50/100 zoom and show us how he crushes all the regs and doesn't bum hunt and profit successfully.

Hi Hypersphere,

Sorry it looks like you had a bad experience with BPC, that can happen with anything.

This post of yours I just quoted above implies that I said that part about BPC taking winnings one month but not helping out if you lose the next month, and that definitely was not me that said that (as it did not happen to me). If I ever said anything that implied that - then my apologies for confusing you. I seriously doubt it though. Maybe it was someone else!?

There are some people getting totally the wrong impression of Gordon. He was more than fair with me, in fact overly generous. Yes of course I "lost" my security deposit but I gave it 14 months there and I can assure you that the value of what I received was way way more than that. I was "let off" to some degree (compared to what the contract says).

I am doing a bit better since leaving BPC (~$7.50/hour playing for fun) but I will tell you this... I have not studied anything other than the stuff I learned at BPC, I play almost exactly as Gordon teaches. The main reason I did not crush at BPC was mostly MENTAL and almost nothing to do with Gordon's material.

I also believe that if Gordon was my personal coach there he might have been able to help me with mental issues also, but due to my crazy work commitments and Gordon and I living on opposite sides of the world that was not possible (he offered it though).

Good luck everybody!

Chris (aka KP24).

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