So looking at your numbers it looks like if we play around 100k hands a month we'd expect to achieve it in 7.5 - 9 months. Have you took those numbers from NL 6 max?

I am still a little bit skeptical, as the saying goes "if something seems to good to be true then it probably is" but we'll see if you can indeed make anybody a poker genius (me included)

Actually our offers are "too good to be true". I am pretty sure we would even have a bigger success in terms of sales of material if people made less money.
(this is not meant 100% serious, but a lot of truth to it)

The standards are so low everywhere, so people got used to mediocrity. I mean, look around, name me anybody who publicly documents the progress & success of their students.
All you will read is "nice guy" or "listens to me, great person"... if that's the only thing people would say about me, i would have quit coaching a long time ago and consider myself a big failure. I'd feel guilty charging for anything.

So having that said, look at the testimonials. What you can learn from it (you see the people talking!) is that not all are big time geniuses and professors of theoretic physics.

The biggest "secret" is to JUST DO IT and *** ALL THE EXCUSES.

So hell yeah, 18months easy time and yes, i took the numbers from 6max as thats the closest we can use for comparison.

Important mindset:

I do NOT make anybody a poker genius!!!!

YOU become great by your own work. I will push you, give you the right information and kick your a$$ (with your consent). I'll repeat, most of you don't know how great you are and can be. Why? Because you are surrounded by losers and mediocrity.
I will teach you the ins and outs. You'll definitely be a lot smarter than before...

but...i do NOT and will not take away credit from players by saying "i did it". It's always the player who deserves the big praise!

I hear all the time how NL is very difficult to beat and PLO is a lot easier (not my opinion) and that everybody has gotten so good at NL blah blah. Or that PLO has not been figured out and you can win at a much higher win rate etc.

What do you think? I play both games to a similar level. Which game should I focus on in order to make this 60k the fastest or where is the easiest money?

I think this is largely because of your marketing approach - if you marketed using data of all students, rather than anecdotes, people wouldn't be able to say it was 'too good to be true'.

It's the same people who say poker is dead. I vote for NL, but mainly because i'm not great at PLO . John (our PLO HeadCoach) has great materials, so you're gonna do fine no matter what.

What matters most is your attitude. That's what i preach and it's the most deciding factor. Even people who didn't believe me and started working for BPC realize this. It is what makes you believe that when the plane crashes you will be among the survivors or among the victims.

You decide that in your brain and then you believe it. If you don't believe it (yet), then fake it til you make it. Surround yourself with other winner mindset people and it will happen naturally. That's one of the big "secrets".

I know deep down that if 1 out of 10.000 people survive, it's gonna be me. You can make fun of it and say how irrational it is, but no matter which "humble-bs" some winners will tell you...deep down they believe they're the one.

It's a conscious decision to be(come) a winner.

Hi Gordon,

I am currently waiting for the contract having gone through all the steps, I think it's safe to say I'm officially in!!!YAY.

Would love to get help in this area, I am on the PLO program, so I assume I will not get any coaching from you, but my question is what about other areas such as mental/tilt game etc?

Quote:
"Taught a student methods to get rid of his monkey tilt. Before he tilted away almost his complete bankroll and could not play more than 2 hours daily. After our sessions, he was able to put in more than 10 hours daily when necessary. Today tilting to him is "something that others do"

Welcome on board!

Btw, i just realized u have a very similar screen name like our latest 10k+/month winner.

Afaik you will get access to my tilt-free-today program and the Millionaire mindset book. So that's for a start.

There you will read my thesis (proven in practice) that tilt is NOT about psycho-babble-bs, but about GROWING UP MENTALLY.

Although people want(ed) a lot of mindset coaching from me in the past and today, i refused to do this (mindset on its own, i do believe strongly in adding it into practical poker coaching) as i have NEVER seen talk achieve anything.

Funny enough, ironically people say that's one of my biggest strength.

No theory has ever failed on paper. Books are great, but ACTION makes money.

The only exception i make is for high stakes players and rich individuals. For them it makes sense. But "mindset coaching" for micro/small stakes players is a big scam. I go into detail...you'll read it.

People still buy all those rotten books and book 1-1 sessions from people who have never "done it" themselves.

You just need to DO IT, that's all there is to and recognize that all reasons not to do it are DUMB, IDIOT, CRYBABY excuses. Nothing else...

It always comes down to the same thing. It doesn't need a rocket scientist to figure out this stuff.

So in short:

1) Welcome!
2) Do the stuff
3) Never give up, because trouble will come

withdrawing 500€ from stars right now...

see you soon guys

Hi! I'm going to sign up to CFP, but I have no euro accounts, only USD Neteller. Can I pay the deposite in USD?

You will be welcomed!

Yes, you certainly can pay the deposit in USD as well, no problem.

Have to make a brag about the "standard lines" we teach in the HU-program:

We have recently finished a big data research on our lines. We created a HUGE database from different players and compared back and forth certain lines.
We shouldn't have enough data on "outside" lines, but unfortunately students don't listen 100%, so in millions of hands we had significant samples

Why?

Like i said, i have created those standard lines "out of my head" (=based on my experience and knowledge).
I knew they were great, simply looking at the results from students making $500/month, now making 20k/month. But great is not good enough for BPC and for myself. I was pretty sure we can find additional improvements.

I was wrong.

Besides a crazy bluff line which we will explore deeper (different board textures need to be analyzed) EVERYTHING was more or less already "perfect".

It has NEVER been easier than today. Past students already complain how easy it is for the new guys.

You can join the HU CFP program today!

Joined 6max 10k today. Waiting for confirmation. I did as much research on it as I could and came up with zero reasons for not jumping in and committing to excellence.

Hi,

I have basically the same concerns than MothafukinRanch, could you go into more details ? (I can't find anything on BPC on this subject, excepted that if the player fail he would have to reimburse 250e per hour of coaching )

Thanks

what? i haven't read anything like that on the site...

is it true? given how much it will take for me to reach the 60k mark, should i fail halfway through, it would be a huge amount of money...

can we have some more clarifications on that?

I'm doing the population analysis and can confirm.

I tend to talk to myself as I work and I've found myself repeatedly saying, 'How the **** does he know that?' That being differences in board texture, optimal sizing, exploitative lines, etc. It took me years to figure out some of the same spots investing massive amounts of hours in database analysis.

I think it says a lot about Gordon that he's willing to spend the time and money doing intensive analysis of the program and to be sure every piece of the program works and figuring out what to add to the program.

The value of the program is Gordon's focus on what is important. There is massive amounts of information available to players, really too much information. An inexperienced (or even a moderately experienced) player doesn't know how to evaluate and prioritize all the available information. At first glance the program will seem simple but the simplicity is the genius. The program forces you to get your foundation right and gives you something to build on. The complexity comes later once your foundation is solid.

And most impressive he's doing this for microstakes players.

@Kickmyass and @Mala:

Like i said, don't worry. Check my previous post that kickmyass quoted. This is a "anti-scammer" clause, nothing else.
If you don't win or "fail", then we get nothing.

We will never force somebody to stay in the program who isn't winning. The clause is made for people who join, start making big money and then want to "quit" (aka scam us).

When anything is ever unclear, then we talk to each other like humans and find a good solution. We've always done things this way.

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One thing i do want to say. You do receive a "free" product (you only pay once you win). This means it is a give and take.

You can always buy courses and self-study material or simply book 1-1 coaching.

Thanks for your answer !

ps: I'm french, and let say I want to join the program, would I be able to play on the PartyGaming.FR network or only Pokerstars + Winamax as it is implied in the FAQ ?

Smart decision. Others will wait, worry, wait, worry and regret seeing their former peers moving up.
Welcome on board, biggest advice, DO DO DO and kill your excuses for not doing. you'll do great then!

Of course. The sites mentioned are just examples. You can play on party.fr if there is enough action.
We care that you WIN.

INTRODUCTION
1 I registered here just to tell people about that one i'm going to write.
2 I'm NOT LOSING money at tables at the moment, so don't think i'm mad cause i'm losing.
3 Sorry for my bad english
4 I can document all.

I want to explain you how BPC "talk to each other like humans and find a good solution. We've always done things this way."

The story is simple, i paid my security deposit 1 week ago to join the 6max micro course. Then i received the study material (1pdf that they sell for 7€ and a video course that for half part explain the bpc rules and platform). The pdf book is quite good but lets talk about coaching: In their video they explain all the coaching type like 1on1, ghosting ecc. When you enter the micro course you receive just group coaching 2 times a week and db analysis every 10k hands.
Already these thing for me are enough to ask a refund of my money, cause they advertise, at least for the micro course, something that isnt totally true...
SECOND AND MOST IMPORTANT PART, during this unlucky week i was reselected, cause someone refused the seat, for an internship university program so i have to move from home and 99% i cant play.
So cause all these reasons i asked for a refund, i NEVER partecipated at coaching and i just used the book and half of the course. (Valor of less then 50€ if bought on the site) . They reply to me that they can't refund my money and i received materials worth of 500€ lololool

So guys i tell you, pay attenction! They're like robbers, if they can't refund ones who have not even started think about your future situation.
I let you know how this story will finish for a final review

Good luck

well, that's not an issue, i'm willing to give you way more than 30k if i'm making the same amount thanks to your teachings

on another subject, what if i hit a jackpot at the spin and go while i'm under contract with you? will it be considered part of the deal?
it could lead to a really premature ending of the program

Short: With a separate bankroll, it's ok if you play them. We don't take the loss, nor the win.
Don't play too many of them tho!!!

Hi Pismi,

everything listed in detail here: https://bestpokercoaching.zendesk.co...-it-look-like-

First of all,please tell me who you are (your name). You can send it via pm or email. Of course it will be kept confidential if you are an honest user.

Second, we publicly state that the security deposit (and every other product on our site) is non-refundable. It's also in the terms & conditions, which you agreed to when joining.
I know we look like the "bad guys", but it's not that simple.

You get access to so much value (more than you stated, further recordings etc), and we can only check if you accessed it or not (micro cfp). This means once you're in, we have to protect ourselves against fraud.

Like in every online business, there are a lot of fraud attempts. More than you might think.
Because of our great history we have a track record of winning about 90% of cases in "court" versus fraud/chargebacks etc. We fight and we win. I am told that "winning" 10% is normal and 30% win is considered great.
Scammers have usually a lot higher success rates, so they are shocked when we win.

In other words, people try to scam us, but they don't succeed. Then after they loose in "court", they email and lie to us, ask for refunds or partial refunds. When that doesn't happen, they "threaten" us to write bad things.
I've never given in to any blackmail in my life and will not do so in the future.

I'm not saying this is the case with you, Pimsi, but it certainly could be. So please clear up your name.