Yes, contact our support.

What is happening here is that depending on where you live, you have the ability to play on different sites.

As explained in our FAQ we don't really care where you play. We care that you make the most money.

So READ the FAQ and just follow the instructions. You can also contact our support for help. But most importantly, it is all explained.

I will try now and let you know

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That's great! We're always working hard to make the process easier. We accounted for all possibilities when creating this process, so in 99% of cases the solution "should" be easy.

However, if anything becomes confusing to you, you can quickly read the FAQ and/or contact BPC support (me via https://bestpokercoaching.zendesk.com/hc/en-us essentially) who will be happy to help you.

Hi, interested in your 10k program 1 question though.
I see the success stories that u posted but how about the failed ones. I want to know what not to do to avoid failing after joining the program. Obviously there are many cases in which they don't put enough effort into this and I'm not talking about them but I'll send you a link to another thread in which the guy claims he put a lot of effort into this and still it did not work for him.
So we have good hard work and bad??
Just don't want to invest a large portion of my br and my time (also yours) and not get the results.
What should 1 not do in order to succeed in the program?

hey, in the end my question was solved also because i've had already done without understanding it.
But now i've done everything to step 8 and i should wait that somebody accept my video and make me begin. After 20 hours nothing happened and "my courses section" is empty, so if i did something wrong in the application just let me know! Sorry if i look in a hurry but i really want to begin!

What you should do to succeed? That's easy. Just do what the fastest finisher of the programs did.

Put in the hours and LISTEN. Stay strong in tough times and never give up.

THATS IT !!!


====================== Longer answer ============

First of all, the success and failure is 100% in the hand of the student. We fight very hard for your success, but ultimately it's in YOUR hand.

Are you going to give up when trouble shows up? Are you going to say "it's not for me" after 2 weeks?


The history of Coaching For profit was the following:

Start:
The first student, Imachampion was broke and made 100k in 9 months.

2nd phase:
I accepted more people. Rovar, Ilidek, Jurassic and Hansthegreat.
ALL of them made the 100k despite terrible circumstances.

So we have a 100% success rate here (good luck finding any coach having even a 30% success rate + even document everything publicly in the first place).


3rd phase:
We accept more people, scale up the program, others coaching as well.
Ironically we have even BETTER results in the 3rd phase, because students were given tested materials (the 2nd group knew what worked) and it only depended on how much the student would play and study.

However, this is also where we lost the 100% success rate status. When you have so many people, you'll just have that one guy who will simply not follow your advice and is resistant to advice. We also had a guy who made the 10k/month, but then he figured out for himself that he wants to take another direction in life. He really was happy with making 3k quickly in a month and then doing other things.


It's however also not an accident that this group beat many records. Among this group Rylan (fastest cfp HU finisher), Atvars (fastest CFP finisher overall), M1ndctrl, Somebody - just to name a few. Other great people like Nubson, Goodfakee,Alloin, kanelbullar etc are not even done yet, but have phenomenal progress compared to where they started (from $500/month to 10k/month etc).

If this has worked for so many people who started off worse than you, why would it not work for you???

MENTAL STRENGTH is the answer. You guys have to fight your inner C4nt.

I am fighting it every day and so does every other succesfull person on the planet.

I don't want to make anybody look bad in public, call somebody. The last thing people who don't achieve their goal need is for me to tell them again.
If somebody would ask me in specific, i'll tell them, but i'm not into public shaming people.

What i can say and have always said is that certain factors make things more difficult (but not impossible):
* Age (40+ is harder)
* Secured income with a high paying job (you will not die to succeed, u have less pressure)
* Family (you have other things to take care of)

One of our stars, Rovar has succeeded DESPITE of these things...he is below 40 tho and he didn't have a high paid job


What does that mean for you:

Winners go and grab opportunities. Would it help you if i said that the current success rate is 90% or 82%?
If you showed me a 0,5% success rate on anything i would be certain that if i went for it i would be among the 0,5%. A weak person will look at a 90% success rate and assume he's among the 10% who wont make it.

IT'S YOUR ATTITUDE THAT DETERMINES WHERE U WILL GO !!!


Phase 4(now):
The CFP program is huge. We even have a 10k only contract (back then the minimum was 100k!).
We will accept more or less everybody and give everybody the chance to make it. "Smaller" successes will be possible for those with a full time job.

The success rate in terms of % simply has to go down, but the absolute number of people we will help to achieve their goals will go up.

One former student asked me:
"But Gordon, if you let all those people in, will it not make your magic 100% number look bad"

My answer was:
"I'd rather help thousands, tens of thousands and millions of people achieve their dream with whatever stupid success %.... instead of only helping 10 people with a 100% success rate"

Should be allright, no worries! Usually it goes faster, but many students don't do this part properly and follow the instructions which makes life more difficult for us.
I don't know if that's the case here, but you should be fine by now either way!

I would just like to say something here because I fear Gordon might unwittingly put some people off joining and I disagree with a couple of the points.

I think being over 40 can be an advantage. I had far more chance of completing the contract than I would have had any younger. Does not ring true for everyone of course, but don't let "old age" put you off!

I also think family can be a driver for you (rather than a hindrance) as you should do everything in your power to give your family a life filled with wealth and success. The thought of not doing all I possibly can to give my family a great life makes me feel sick to the core. Of course it helps to have their complete backing/support (I did).

The big one I do agree with is the job, but more so how much the job takes over you. I know people who have worked a job AND made good money at poker (but most of them I know have managed to play at work or at least study properly). For me that was a big problem and I am at work 10.5 hours a day, 5.5 days per week.

FWIW I did not complete my contract but I did spend 13 months in Coaching For Profits and would still whole heartedly recommend it to everyone. I learned more in those 13 months about the real world than I did in the 43 years previous. I do not even consider my 13 months as a failure but more a roaring success and a stepping stone to great things.

Take it from me - you should join because the stuff you will learn here you just don't find out there.

GL.

Thx Chris.
I appreciate your words and it's funny that even the guys making 30k/month state that their overall progress as a person "in life" was their biggest takeaway from CFP.

Enjoy Halloween!

GG tx alot for the lengthy detailed reply really appreciate it.

Plz correct me if I'm wrong/apologies if already explained. I pay 500eu deposit until I make 10keu it will remain w u. So my contract would be forever? Until I make that 10k under your coaching?
After the deposit been made what happens exactly? I see people have to make videos etc and get picked up by a coach or a process similar?
Tx in advance

Are there any blogs by people that have completed the 10K micro course with BPC, or, blogs that consist of more then 10-20 updates? I would be interested in reading/following someone's journey that was on the same level I would be if I was to join.

U are too scared! What do u have to loose?!!! Ur current life? Vs a chance to completely dominate doing something you love?

We have all detailed answers to your questions here: https://bestpokercoaching.zendesk.com/hc/en-us

In your case i assume it's the micro program, so check out this link here:
https://bestpokercoaching.zendesk.co...-it-look-like-

Let me know if anything stays unclear after reading and we're of course gonna help you and answer!

But most important of all, GROW BALLS and give yourself a chance to follow your dreams (whether its in poker or anywhere else!).

The 10k program has no finishers (yet) because it only started like a month ago.

You will find a lot of players in situations WORSE than yourself. Check out the "normal" success stories. The majority did NOT (!!!) make any real money at poker before starting CFP.

The 10k program is for those who want to start with a small step, but the coaching is always adjusted to skill level.

I think I grew enough balls that I consider joining your program and investing a good portion of my br! I just want to make sure what I'm getting myself into which I assume is reasonable to say the least! The "GROW BALLS" part doesn't affect my decision making at all but tx for the rest.

Great wnbmsw,

looking forward to welcoming you on board!

we're here to motivate and make people believe in themselves. We'll do whatever it takes to push people over the finish line so that later sometimes they can't even realize themselves what they are capable of

I even believe in those who "hate" on me, because if they put their energy into something more productive, they would be incredibly good. One of them is on a GREAT challenge (without my help) and on his way to become amazing. Many have apologized to me via pm in the past year(s), but at BPC we have a higher mission than personal vendettas, we simply have no time for it!

I know you didn't ask that, but that's a thought i wanted to share with the community.

GG One thing I'm pretty sure about is that I'm not one of those haters and will probably join your program. I understand the point of your aggressive style in talking about your business/passion but that doesn't mean I agree with it. Total respect and will "cu" guys soon!

Hi Gordon,

I read 20-30 pages of this thread but i'm sorry if you have already answered this.

I am a consistent 2k+/mo LIMIT holdem player in New Jersey.

I've watched all your youtube videos and find them amazing.

I just want to make more money per hour. Bottom line.

I just don't know what course of action to take b4 i sign up.

These are my favorite games in order:

1. limit holdem
2. limit omaha h/l
3. pl omaha h/l
4. plo
5. nlhe

But it doesn't matter what my favorite game is cause I just want to make more money.

What would you do if you were me?

Great man! In order to achieve insane results, you can't take normal methods .
Stay in touch.

Hi Letigra,

thx for the props.

HU Limit poker had an incredible impact on my deeper understanding of poker and developed my intuitive understanding of maths & frequencies that help me up to this day.
The bad news is that if you want to make consistent money, your options 1-3 have to be flushed down the toilet (FOR NOW).
Maybe a niche market will develop around those, but currently i see those games only growing in high stakes.

Ask yourself what is the game that the newbies to poker will play? The answer is NLHE, followed by PLO. That's the no-bs truth (look at games running across the board across all sites).

I'd pick between 4&5. Once you are really good at them, the higher you get, you pick up on 1-3 again (mixed games). But first become really good at NLHE and/or PLO. Add to that SNGs, but i assume you play on stars/party NJ, so likely not enough action there for SNGs?

What i have discovered is that people "like" one game better than the other (for me i liked HU over 6m). I sucked at 6m, but once i became good at HU i was good at 6m as well.

Why? The principles of poker are the same in every game. The way to improve is exactly the same. I now understand that while there definitely are preferences, it is mostly of emotional nature.

For this reason your attitude is quite good. You are willing to to whatever it takes, even if it means not playing your "favorite" game. I simply got lucky that my favorite game is a popular one.

We sometimes have people inside our program who want to switch to another game. In some cases its ok, but very often i warn players and say " don't run away from your problems...they will hunt you down wherever you go ".

However, i know from myself that my switch from 6m to HU was absolutely needed. It just fitted so much better to my personality...while other people had lazy/attitude problems and no matter which game they would learn, they'd have the same struggles...

So in summary: I'd choose between 4 or 5. That's a solid foundation, no matter which part of the world and which time of the day you play poker.

Hi Gordon,

Thanks for such a quick, detailed answer.

I am also strong at HU limit so it's good to know the thought processes will help me in the study in other games.

And yes, you are right, the poker world IS nlhe followed by plo. To answer your sit n go Q, the NJ sites have a very low population and a new jersey student will likely play bovada and winning poker just like people in other states. I mean any extra action is good but adding them helps like adding seals with clubs, maybe one or two more tables of a certain limit. SO adding sit n goes is an interesting plan but they will likely be added on those 2 networks.

I needed to hear that I MUST play nlhe and/or plo so thanks for that. You are right too, once I study the games and apply familiar concepts I learned from limit poker, Ill bet those games become 'my favorite' as favorite games are typically the games you make good money at and are good at.

Staying at limit poker is just not enough money, and is kind of 'running from my problems' if you think about it. My problem obviously being I NEED to study the popular variants and make better money rather than grinding limit because 'it's comfortable and kind of profitable'

I think I should focus on one at a time first. maybe PLO 6m sounds most appealing to me right now. But maybe I should focus on both together like you said but I'm sure Ill get answers to those questions once I sign up

Thanks Gordon.

You're welcome Letigra!

I recommend you to NOT study both NLHE and PLO6m at the same time. Become good at ONE of them first. Decent at both, great at none is a fast way to stay mediocre. All great players were excelling at ONE THING (before they became better at other variants!)

Best wishes!

Hi Chipalotamus,

I started the CFP program in half September, was basicly breakeven at NL5 and after rakeback on NL10 and I just wanted to show my super micro stakes results last month since you were interested in the micro stakes.


Started this month at NL2 (playing zoom+regular) and now already beating NL10.
(this is also pre-rakeback!)

My blog:
http://www.bestpokercoaching.com/top...i-grind-i-get/

If you are ready to put the work in, 10k for micro stakes will be an easy goal. They will teach you EVERYTHING you need to know.

Is it possible to be just as profitable in the US sites especially sites like Bovada where the player pool is super fishy as it is in the non US sites with the same strategy? Considering with opening ranges, calling ranges and post flop play. Basically, do you feel as its just as possible for an american to be crushing using your strategy, as someone who plays with an international player pool?

The fishier the player pool the better. I say that we teach a "strategy", but actually only because this is how we are better understood.

In reality we don't have a "strategy" (only at the start) , but even better, we teach you the THOUGHT PROCESS on how to beat and adapt against EVERYBODY!

In short, the fishiness of the player pool is something that works FOR you. Now living in a non USA country gives you more options. I have always said that thats likely preferable, but if Bovada is that great, why not . It should definitely not stop you, that i can say.

Our players would succeed anywhere...people who made it through CFP even feel more confident in other areas of life because we teach success principles that are applicable not only to poker. Read the feedback and listen to what the players say!