How are the group of 6max microstakes players who joined back around September doing today?

We have a few in HU and there are tons of nice graphs to show. However, there are not many actually in 6max (1 or 2 depending on what counts as micro), but we wanna change this. The main reason is simply that most of them cannot put in the hours needed.
We are actually right now developing a system so that even those who put in less hours can join.

This is also the reason why i can't show you brilliant graphs at this moment. Fwiw, they are all winning, but not as much as i want (we have high standards!).

Like everything we touch, it will turn into gold. This does not mean there is no struggle. But we define ourselves how we deal with it. As long as the player does not give up, we do not give up.

Hello I just started playing and atm I'm playing NL2. I would like to get better and profitable, like turning 10$ into 20$ etc.

Which course would you recommend? "No BS 6 Max" or "How to beat the micro stakes (2NL to 25NL)"?

Get the No BS 6max course.

And fckning upgrade your vision. You got the vision of a poor guy or a 14yo. You think that's all you can do?!?!?! Dream bigger.

If all you want is to turn $10 into $20 (or even $100 into $200), then i suggest you to stay far away from any of my products because it doesn't work the way.

The work you have to put in to turn $100 into $200 is not thaat much different to turn 1k into 2k, 10k into 100k and so on.

If you're looking for bigger numbers, then the NO-bs 6max is the best start into achieving this.

Haha, yea its not like I don't dream of turning 1k-2k but I just started playing so it seemed a little bit too optimistic coming in here and talking about making 1k. I get what you mean and I got the time and I want to put in the hours needed. Thanks for your advice and I'll get that one.

Not at all. I will rather take a big mouth student who says he will make Millions than the scared guy who wants to "make $300 per month" and " be realistic" and "live a balanced life".

You should not give a damn what all the losers on this forum here think. You shouldn't even give a damn what I think. You should care what YOU think.

You have no idea how people laughed at me when i told them i can help bad players make 100k in a year...
They laughed until the player made it in 9 months...

I had other coaches berate me in this thread, until they realized that somebody who is broke and ******ed will make more money than them after 2 months of working with my team.
I'm still waiting for any other coach publicly documenting the success of their students...

Today the only thing they complain about is that my student posts a 9k/day brag into my thread . I can live with that.


I am telling you this, because it makes me cry how low expectations people like yourself have of themselves.

There is no frikkin reason why YOU (yes, the poor guy who wants to turn $10 into $20) can't beat the record of my most successful students. You just have to want it.

I'll say it again, your biggest Villain is between your own years.

Our main site is down. Doing some upgrade works. No worries.

I hope you don't mind me throwing my opinion in here Gordon?

These words here are the biggest words you should listen to. Dream big and take action and you will make it big. Dream small and you will make it small.

Also... Spend time with successful people, spend your time with people who dream big and share your passion. You are the sum of the people you spend most of your time with. At BPC you will find everything you need to make it big.

Good luck.

GOAL ACHIEVED !!!

24.04.2015 I finished CFP program.



Numbers:

Started: 11.09.2014 ; Ended: 24.04.2015 (About 8 months)

Hands played: ~200 000

Average WinRate (BB/100) : 10

Best Day (4th March 2015) : +8138 euro

Worst Day (9th March 2015) : -3127 euro

Total Profit (with rakeback) : 60 000 Euro

Graphs:





Thank you Gordon for coaching and for creating such a great program which is everybody can apply and improve their poker game a lot! Joining CFP was one of the best decisions I ever made!

See you soon!

(I have originally posted this answer on his blog on BPC: http://www.bestpokercoaching.com/top...n-bpc/page/20/ , but will repost it in this thread )


Hi Rylan,

as your coach i want to thank you for being a hard working and honest guy. I wish you all the best in the future and hope we will stay connected through BPC or a lot of other business in the “higher league”. You just finished baby league, so keep improving, get to the next level and never forget what you have learnt!


Let me give him some praise and let others know why was Rylan successful relatively fast:


1) HE LISTENED AND JUST DID WHAT HE LEARNT:

Rylan was the “easiest” student that i had in my life. Even guys like Hansthegreat and Imchampion who made 100k in 9 months were “harder” and cost me a lot more time. I made more money on deals with Hans and Champ bc they were bigger contracts, but i think my overall hourly was best with Rylan. It is not fair to compare, because i used hundreds of hours of knowledge from Champ and Hans (and others) , so Rylan could take advantage of our super refined and perfected system, a big video library and a super professional system that Hans and Champ simply did not have. So it’s not about who is better, would have been faster etc… i don’t care. I just say it was EASY for me as a coach with him.

Either way, many people will have that advantage now. They will even watch some vids from Rylan and myself. They will still take a longer time to finish. Why? Rylan simply listend and just ****** DID what he was taught. I know it sounds so simple, but i tell all of you listening that this is by FAR the HARDEST part of all. Rovar, our CFP manager – who completed the 100k program himself – will confirm this.

The only time he did NOT listen is when i warned him about something. That has to do with his biggest losing day. Well, sometimes you have to confirm that the fire will burn you… Just don’t do it too often.

Short Advice: Do what your coach says even if you disagree. There is a reason you are poor and your CFP coach isn’t. If your ego can’t take that, then you have a long road of pain ahead. Rylan just listened.



2) Never Late, always did homework

I don’t remember him ever being late to a session or canceling. Not once. He took vacation for xmas and some snowboarding (which is fine). I don’t think he worked super crazy hours, but he did more than needed. Some other guys have crybaby excuses for every **** that happens in the life of their 3rd cousin and all reasons why they can’t do this and that.

I did not give him much “homework” , but when i asked, it was done and it was done well. Just last week i gave some homework to other people and results were embarrassing. Lazy work, ****ty stuff. I wanted to vomit. Those other guys still make money and we will crush together, but there is a reason why they will not finish as fast as Rylan did.

Short Advice: If you wanna finish super-fast, you have to show up NO MATTER WHAT. If you break your arm, you should show up anyways. No excuses. The more excuses you have, the longer it will take. 99,9% of excuses are bull****.

3) Always well prepared for coaching

He had 1hour coaching with me each week (2x 30min). Well, he got lots of extra, but average should be below 1,5h for sure especially if we calculate the time he was on vacation or i was gone. Everybody gets a lot of other coaching (forum, group coaching, access to special libraries), but the 1-1 is the most valuable.

You would think that most people would prepare like crazy because it’s only little time. Well, Rylan is one of the few who was ALWAYS prepared and well prepared. Others don’t do it. They are crazy, because they don’t realize how much time they waste (and i am not talking about losers,,, i am talking about people who already make decent money!!!).

Short Advice: Use the time with your coach to the max. Be well prepared 24hours before the session starts.



4) No emotional drama and bull**** in his life

(afaik, if he had, he was super professional in hiding it lol) I think I give students most mercy for this part. Maybe i should, maybe i shouldn’t. But i see it has a huge effect on a player if their wife, girlfriend, boyfriend, mom or dad or whoever they spend much time with does not give 100000% support.

I have no opinion whether you should be married, dating or not. Imachamp was single, Hans was in a relationship, Rovar married. What they have in common is that their surrounding didn’t exist (lol!) or that they had 100000% support from their partner.

I have a student (good one!) who has a lot of emotional drama and bull**** in his life. We cleaned up a lot, but he still has. He unfortunately took a lot longer than needed.

The people you spend time with have a huge influence.

With Rylan i did not talk to much personal stuff, but although he changed his place of living a few times during the program (which i do NOT recommend), it never seemed like he had any drama with the people that surrounded him / he has contact with.

Short Advice: Clean out the bad people in your life. Bad does not mean “bad people”. It can even mean people that you “like”. In the long run you will pay the price because they will drag you down. This is also imo the hardest step to implement, but i have to mention it.



- Gordon

Just amazing. I'm following every single blog of these players, and every ****ing one it's ****ing crushing. Amazing
I want it too!

Gordon, I've started to play HU this month (from zero) and already had watched every one of your videos at PokerStrategy (can I say this?). And it already improved a lot of my game. I wanna join your CFP program no matter what, but my bankroll by now it's only 100$... I was going to apply to CFP but then I realize that I could only choose to play 6max because of my current bankroll...
There's no doubt on my mind, I want definitely play HU. But I can start with 6max then later change for HU? Or should I build my bankroll before apply to CFP?

See you soon

Hi Gordon, i am really interested to participate in your CFP-program.

It seems that the students are either playing HU or 6-max. I recently switched from full ring, cause the lack of traffic, to Short-handed 5-max games. At the site i play there is almost only 5 -max games. Is that a problem? Or do you really need to either play 6-max or HU to join the CFP-program? For the record i am not a experienced SH-player, but with your help i wish and hope to be that crushing SH-player who eats sharks for breakfast, lunch and dinner!

I am playing poker as my fulltime job. I got the time, motivation and ambition to do this!

Regards

Grindlovvah

Find the way to get the 1,5k Euro needed to start HU. You have to start one, learn and then succeed at it.

You can choose 6max, but then you gotta do that. What is even more important than what to choose (HU or 6m) is that you need to commit a lot of time to it.

Should get one of them to go on Joe Ingram's podcast...

Playing 5max instead of 6max is NOT a problem. That's the last thing you should be worried about.

Other stuff is more important. Go and apply and everything will be clear. We have taken care for every eventuality.

Excuse my ignorance, i've never heard of that guy. Perhaps time to change that.

I think most of the participants of the program would have no problems doing an interview/ showing how we do things.

Hi,
I've gone through some of the process for CFP and seem to have hit a brick wall. I have gotten to the point where I joined the required site 'PokerLoco', which to be honest I am still quite dubious about doing due to reports of terrible customer service, issues with cash outs and the fact hat playing from Australia means that there is almost no traffic on there when I can play. Despite this, I have also had no feedback as to what I need to do next or if I have in fact been accepted for the CFP programme. Can I get some explanation around this please?

You will not like my answer...

Because of you having a lower bankroll you'll have to take an extra hoop. We invest around $5.000 to $10.000 in resources into you before getting anything back.
We're not a charity although its close to that if you look how much the player gets in value from us.

Now what you gotta ask yourself is this:

1) Would YOU ever invest/risk $10k on somebody who cannot even follow some simple steps without asking a million questions (when we explicetly tell you to NOT ask questions) ?

2) You ask that person to do something very simple, sign up and play 100k hands to prove that he's not a lazy fckkker and can be relied on. After all, you're about to invest $10k into him. Now instead of just DOING IT, that person wants explanations. WTF ?!

=> Worst case in the world happens and you lose $50... i mean, reaaaally? You're giving me drama about eventually risking $50, but expect me to trust you with 10k ?

You are not used to this type of treatment because most people will say nice things to you so you buy their crap. I'll tell you the truth knowing that i will alienate some people. I also know that there are people (perhaps like yourself) who can accept direct language.

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Having that said, i did NOT say that your concerns were not legitimate. Don't confuse one with the other. It's just that in the big picture your concerns are rather small. When you join the program and succeed you will laugh at this, so copy it and save it for a special moment.

Traffic on aussie time:
If i invest 10k into you, i expect you to get up at 3am if this what is needed to succeed. You can't have a comfy ez life AND print millions. With this in mind, it's not like we just offer one site... so talk to the manager who is responsible for sites.

Issue with the site:

We manage a lot of money and pls understand that it is technically BPC's money (if student loses, we lose). So we're never gonna tell you to do anything where we don't put our own money on. We always evaluate and re-evaluate the quality of every partner. I have a big mouth/ego, but i always put my money where my mouth is.

This is the difference between the BPC team and everybody else in the poker community. We don't just say "pay me and it's all gonna be good" . We bet our own money + time on our skills (by doing coaching for profits).

How would you break down this $10k investment, what does it involve? Also, I've gotta say I have never heard anything so ridiculous as demanding that people don't ask you questions, do you realise how bad that sounds?

How many people with close to 0 bankroll have you made successful and make 100k in 9 months? My guess is NOBODY. So what exactly is your expertise in this area besides knowing how to "look good" ?

If you focused more on BEING good (like BPC) instead of "looking good" (like marketers, other coaches) , you might get the sweet taste of success as well.

Look, this aussie guy is asking for my help. I deeply care for him altho it might not look that way. I have to tell him the truth bc all othr fckrsss just try to sell him their useless *****. Or other people like yourself who are mediocre themselves and want to keep others down with yourself.
(If you deny that, ask yourself why you're posting here. You're clearly not interested in the program and you have no expertise to offer help to anybody...)

The truth is not always nice and it does not sound good. But if Mr aussie wants to succeed, he will get over tough words and accept it.
And the same thing is true for yourself. Wherever you are, you can be 100x better and altho i don't like the way you talk, you are no exception in that you can become more than super-great.


If you want a real opinion, ask people who have been through the program. Read about "Rovar" who is now the manager of the whole program. He thought many of my ideas/rules were ridiculous until

- he found out that they allowed him to make the biggest jump in his LIFE
- he saw when coaching others how detrimental certain things are

One of those things are too many questions without action


I kindly ask you to refrain from using words like "ridiculous". If you asked respectfully i'd give you a more respectful answer.
In order to turn people with no money into rich mofos, you need to do "ridiculous" things.
Since you've never done that yourself, you should ask polite questions on why we do what we do.

And then I'll answer you politely.

The 5-10k question:

I think that's legit to ask. There are many ways:

* 20 hours of coaching on my former rate of 500/hr = 10k (subtract if others coach...but u get the idea)
* Use of our specialized library = PRICELESS (but i'd say at least worth 20k)
* Use of our specialized productivity software = 250/month
* Group coaching = 75-100 per coaching

At the end of the day it is important how much money the student makes. I can tell a video is worth 5k, but unless the student makes at least 5k, my video is worth dogsht.
If the student makes a lot more than that, then the video is worth a lot more.

The cool thing is that we don't make any money unless the student makes at least 200% of that money.

@Husker:

I don't want any fights with anybody. Not worth the time nor do i get pleasure from it. I just want to help those who want to know the truth.


* This guy did not ask ANY question before joining the program.

* And he tells others to "stop thinking too much"


* He also said it was the best coaching of his life

=> Up to this date he is the FASTET in finishing it.

Do what the Chinese do: Copy him !!!

(and don't ask me WHY lol)

ThinkItThrough

Firstly, thankyou for your candour. I’m not a stranger to ‘this type of treatment’ as you called it. I actually find your honesty and bluntness more beneficial than anything else.
I have asked myself those 2 questions you posed and came up with the following answers.

1) I would hope that the person I was investing $10,000 in would have the gumption and intelligence to ask valid questions when they arose, and to not just blindly follow instructions without recourse.

2) Regarding this, I was only after some information about what step was next and what would be involved. I don’t really see how asking for more information would be a problem.

A simple answer of ‘you now need to smash through 100,000 hands’ would have helped. Nowhere previously during the sign up process is it mentioned that $10,000 would be invested in the participant.

I don’t believe that I was giving you any drama about depositing and/or losing a $50 deposit. I apologise if any of my questions alluded to this, albeit not the case. Also, I’m not sure how you would be ‘trusting me with $10,000’. Thankyou for explain the breakdown of how you came to that amount though, and it definitely seems reasonable.

Please be assured that I can most definitely accept direct language.

Yes, I am asking for your help. But I hope that you can also accept some direct language when I say that you might be drawing a long bow by saying that you ‘deeply care for me’ lol.

Anyway, to reiterate, yes I would love to see where this programme can take me, and if you have not already, please read my description of me as a poker player that I sent to Super VIP during the application process. This will give you an idea of my motivation.

There you go! Now we're talking.


Answer 1):

You might think that, but that is EXACTLY what i would want you to do = follow instructions blindly, just doing things.
I know you/we have been brainwashed into critically questioning every little ***** . What they forgot to tell you is that you first need to develop the tools in order to be able to REALLY think in the first place.

When you learnt reading and counting in school, did you question it or did you just DO it?
Look, you and most people confuse the level you are on. We are in poker ELEMENTRY school. Until you have made at least 60k at poker you're in special needs school.
Only after you have passed my program, then you have the tools to think critically.
Or why do you think it doesn't take me significantly longer to turn a n00b into a crusher compared to an "established" Nl50 player?


I think most people have no idea how "easy" my program is. You literally just have to follow a list of things to do and then do them. I know you don't believe me. You think there is some sick trick. There isn't. Ask the people...

The biggest trouble they have is DOING IT. LOL. And yes, if you wanna do it fast, invest more hours.

I told some of my guys who make more than 10k/month how ashamed they should be. They know that they know NOTHING AT ALL. They just know how not to be a complete idjiiiot and that is enough to make 10k in the year 2015 in the "SUPER TOUGH GAMES".

Hansthegreat (the guy i trained and who made like 30k/month on NL100/200) still thought he was inferior to all those guys making vids on training sites. LOL. He beats their clown a$$es left and right.
And yes, he is in critical thinking age and does his own improvement these days.
Same for Imachampion (the broke naive guy, turned nothing into 100k in 9months). He went through my school and now he is beating reg-wannabes with two digits. He improved himself further (i wont take credit for the next step he made).


I am not kidding you that people who made over 100k from my team had no idea what equity % they needed to call a half pot size bet. I myself (many yrs ago when i was still an active player) only learnt this stuff after i already made more than 500k and wanted to improve further.


But i already know that people are not gonna believe me until they go through the program, make money and see it with their own eyes. Then they get a student and complain how ******ed they are lol. No joke. And then i remind them how all of us have started small...

And that's ok.




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You actually just made me realize that nobody has any freakin clue how much we're investing into everybody. I thought that this was "obvious" considering we only get paid when YOU make a ton of money.
It is my fault because the applicant is not concerned about me/BPC , so i should point that out so they start caring more!

Oh yeah, smash through those 100k hands b4 we continue the application! Any site offered.

Invitation to our yearly BPC live meeting

FAQ (taken from the recording of our 6max meeting):



Brochure:

https://docs.google.com/a/bestpokerc...c1eTRYajA/edit

Update:

1) We are already fully booked, location and date are confirmed, but i made space for another 10 people. That's the max i can do because everybody will have a 30min 1-1 session with me and the day has only 24hrs + seminar + activities etc... I expect close to no sleep for myself.


2) The stuff in the video is for the coaching for profits members. They got first access, but the answered questions might help you. For you as a non-CFP member i simplified things.

Everything besides travel is included in the price.

1700 Euro for a shared room, everything else is taken care of (food, drinks). Before i get stupid questions, DonPerignon is NOT included lol.

2000 Euro for your own room.


Is it worth the money?:

There are 10 million reasons why you should come. 10 millions of these: $$$$$$$

Here is what other people think:

* We will have people from eastern Russia (Siberia) flying in
* We will have people from Canada flying in
* We will have people from the West Coast (USA) flying in

Since the event is in Dubrovnik (Croatia), they might spend more money on flights than the whole damn seminar will cost. I think nothing else needs to be said.

Should you come?:

We're really full, so make up your mind. Don't ask for discounts or payment plans. Not for this event.
Based on the feedback i will get we might offer more of those events in the future.


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