Low sample size but this is since I've swapped computers so its about 3-4 days of play.



I've posted other graphs in the past over here but just showing that Gordon's "protege" is still doin' work at the tables AFTER his 3 week hiatus because of vacation.

Find me over here where I'll be posting graphs frequently/answering any questions:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...9/index12.html

If you guys need to know anything about Gordon and are skeptical about him drop me a PM and I will answer everything with 100% honesty.

ImaCHAMPION what kind of poker are you playing (hu, 6max, ...), and what kind of coaching did you get from Gordon (private, courses, ...).

I am playing Zoom 100, I am a winning reg, but I cannot fix my dropping red line, Gordon what do you think would be the best solution for solving this problem (coaching or course)? I know that with my style the red line is supposed to be down, but I feel like it is down way too much.

Hi,

ImaChampion plays HU and the course " HU Mastermind" is the foundation of our work and my work with any player in regards to HU.

In addition to that we have 1-1 coaching as well. You can read more earlier in the thread and/or in his blog.

I've made big claims in my thread and talked about how i've coached players from nowhere to highstakes. ( and i gave names with proof)

I thought it would be a cool idea to do this again, to prove the world that it can be done in 2013 as well with all the "tough" (LOL) games.

ImaChampion has recorded so far like 90% of our sessions. His homework is documented. You see his struggles and his advances. I hope our work will be inspiring for every poker player out there.

- and a nasty kick in the balls for any critic out there (that's my personal thing lol) who says "it's not possible"

Can anyone say what 3 key stats in NLHE HU aka SB VPIP, BB VPIP, 3bet% do you have if you play like ThinkItThrough coaches?

Obviously it's hard to say exactly because of many factors, but approximately?

The right answer would be, everything depends on your opponent, so there's no certain style you are playing that translates into certain %'s. Sure if you take all his students and take all average stats, you will get some numbers, but they would mean nothing. They would only be the gross average %'s of a lot of different ranges against a lot of different opponents, but I can say all aggression stats will usually be above average, if you take the averages, and same with the wideness of ranges.

So in general, SB VPIP 100, BB VPIP 60+ (vs minraise) and 3bet 20+ ?

Yeah think you could say that yea, would probably be near that, except for the SB VPIP, think SB PFR 90+, SB VPIP ~ 83-ish ?

I think the SB vpip and the 3b can almost against anybody look like this.

The BB VPIP will "depend" a lot. What i can say is if my BB vpip is high, that means i don't think my opponent plays very well

Yeah that's cool... I thought you teach quite low, 70-80ish SB VPIP because someone who bought your Mastermind series did play such a style, which nowadays is obviously not optimal.

But I guess it was his own invention not your Mastermind series

I've played this way "back in the day" when people called it "crazy" and called anybody fishy with a 50+ vpip in BB .

Or calling 4bets or calling light vs minraises. Have been teaching this forever, but only today it is becoming somewhat "standard".

I keep telling in the series and everywhere else that i am NOT a genius or somebody "who was ahead of everybody else". I just used plain simple logic, looked at numbers and statistics and didn't participate in the forum religion.

That's all. Been doing it always and i preach & teach this.

Can you please tell why it is not optimal to open 70-80ish from the SB?

You can win with 70-80% vpip. In fact in some cases it can prevent you from making mistakes and avoid some situations.

Like always, it depends on your opponent, so in a way this discussion is pointless, because vs very tight people you should of course play 100%, but vs very aggro opponents that is not the way to go.

Details on how why and what are explained in HU Mastermind

I've been playing poker for some time. I am a small winner on 6 max NL hold'em 0.25/0.50 but whenever I move up to 0.5/1 I get crushed. I think it is mostly because I don't win enough money without showdown (my red-line is dropping like crazy). Do you focus on aspects too improve the red-line in your 6 max series? I really wanna find out all the details before the purchase, because 400$ is quite an investment for me.

Laterz!

Savin' up for your 6max and HU course! Desperately needed it

Hey everybody. I got a video segment with Gordon Gekko coming soon, we were two tabling regs. He's a very good coach and you should highly consider him/ buy any of his series as I do believe its capable of turning anyone into a winner.

heres the graph for the year since I swapped computers.


^ hes not all bark no bite his methods really do work!

Can somebody convince me to buy the 6max course please?

My main game is FR and I have beaten up to and including NL100 in the past although lately I have played a lot of NL25 where I still win at a good rate and then NL50 where Im a slight winner. Im wanting to give 6max a go and keep coming back to look at these courses without ever taking the plunge.

Im probably going to start out at NL10 and work from there. Somebody please convince me why I should make the purchase.

Hi Zelvak,

although i *could* market myself as a redline coach, because mine is kinda nice, i don't do it.

The reason why is because the GREEN line (=profits) is what matters in the end. I teach how to improve the green line.

Now as a nice side effect, the stuff i teach happens also to improve the red-line. Many chapters will teach you how to win pots uncontested. There are situations where most players still have leaks/are to lazy/ always fold.

This improves the red-line a lot, but most importantly, it improves the GREEN line.

So in short, i think the course is very well suited for you. Check out the 2 free videos as well. I know 297 Euro is a serious investment, so by watching the free videos you get an idea of how i teach / coach.

Hope to see you soon on board!

- Gordon

Hey MartL,

I've followed your thread for a while (I was a lurker). I saw that your main issue use to be tilt and you've spent X amount on it. Was it worthwhile? Its quite hefty of a price but it definitely removed one big issue that was causing you to lose a lot. You're probably now very mentally strong but the reason why you're only a slight winner is because you don't have all of the fundamentals down. Now I may be a bit biased as I am a person working under Gordon, but I also speak out because I have YET to see ONE person be a losing player who has put in the countless effort in the videos.

Also, come and join a great community where people post there blogs:
http://bestpokercoaching.com/forum/f...y.php?10-Blogs

Post in the blog everyday, and basically if you do not improve and within 90 PLAYING days with a DECENT sized sample after doing everything including the homework, Gordon will coach you for FREE for how much hours I'm not entirely sure but hes that confident in his poker credentials. And if he is no longer doing that offer I will refund you for the course outta my own pocket as I'm that confident in Gordon and his courses.

Even if you learn one thing in the course maybe "double your six max winrate" may be an overexaggeration for people who are winning at a sick rate, but for break even/slightly winning players its worth while for anyone who plays at your stakes EASILY and it will literally double or triple your sixmax winrate.

I'm a Gordon student as well. I confirm again that's he is an awesome coach. I'm still tilting a lot but he improve my game so much.

I've start coaching a bit after 350Kish hands. You can just check how I improve game in non showdown.



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Solid stuff! But this is curious to me. Your winrate according to your graph is around 4.67 bb/100 right? It looks to be roughly the same both pre/post coaching. It looks like you just swapped your red line for your blue.

I'm not trying to troll or anything, I hope it doesn't seem that way. It just doesn't seem like the actual winrate increased much if at all, you're just playing a different style. Am I missing something? No harm meant.

I only bring this up and ask because I have been thinking about the course. Also, is this Heads Up or 6max?

^ My thoughts exactly. I hope you moved up?

Sounds great! I actually recommend you to get one course first, work on it , work on it and work on it before getting the other!

Can I get the 6 max if I'm in the US?

I didn't change my game. Just done some adjustment. I'm tilting a lot that's why my winrate isn't so high. By the way, I've to play on French site where rake is higher than 5.5 BB/100. So it's quite difficult to beat the game.

Of course.

You could also get the 6max course if you were in Afghanistan. Make sure though that you don't get stoned by cavemen