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Old 09-07-2018, 06:36 AM   #3276
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And since you want entertainment, there is a lot of entertainment from a recently released YT video by Gordon.

Gordon admires Hitler and recommends his students to listen to Hitler speeches:

https://youtu.be/fP-MLyzw3Cs?t=4288

https://youtu.be/fP-MLyzw3Cs?t=4580

This pretty much sums up and explains why you are the way you are.
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Old 09-07-2018, 07:09 AM   #3277
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You continue to amuse me Gordon.

You can't just take the sample size of 125k hands, multiply that number and assume that he will make $20k/month. That's now how it works and you know it. There is a big difference between playing few tables, and playing many tables, where your winrate will certainly be higher when you are playing less tables. At the end of the day, the only number that matters is in green. And he made $50k in 8 months.
Yes, a former losing microstakes player now makes $50,000 in 8 months playing poker after going through our 6-max Micro program.

Quickly, call the poker police and report a massive failure!

Or do the smart thing and sign up for 6-max Micro program here


And here's the results again so you can present the massive "fail" evidence; come as a losing micro player, walk away with this.


1. came to BPC as a losing/microstakes player
2. signed up for our 6-max Micro program with 5k contract
3. completed it, and now makes $6-$8k per month, playing around 50 hours per month

And that's what you get with our 6-max Micro program.

And those are just the guys who finish the Micro program, the smallest programs we have.

Inside our 6-max Crusher program, students make 10k/month while still inside the program:




And that's what you get with our 6-max Crusher program.
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Old 09-07-2018, 10:37 AM   #3278
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Nsoshnikov, I was wondering when that would come up . You reached a new low. Remember when i said these monkies always come back... They do! They can't help themselves. I triggered people at the table before the word trigger existed.

Btw, I'm German as well! If trying to understand what goes on in the head of the people who made a HUGE difference in the world (for better or worse) make you a bad person, i plead GUILTY.

So yes, listen to Hitler speeches. Listen to Obama speeches. Listen to Trump, Putin, MLK and god knows who else. Learn how to think and stop being a stupid sheep and let others shame you into "thinking" what they want you to think.

You're a weak mind and even more pathetic that you think the people reading this will not see through it lol. What you're trying to do might work with 5th graders. Maybe.

I actually want to use this moment to drive an important point across.

You can learn from anybody, especially your enemies or whoever you view as a terrible person (Nsoshnikov included). For those who don't know the context, Obama was right before that in the video. Today i would have added Trump as well or whoever people like to hate, because what he achieved was extraordinary even if you view him as a disgusting human being. On an achievement level perhaps even to what Obama did.

(Please no polit-tarding here. I don't care about anybodies opinion, nor have i ever (!!!) voiced my own here...or so i hope. We do want to focus on poker)

What does this have to do with poker? Imagine Nsoshnikov sitting across me at a table. Just imagine. Who will you bet on? We all know his house and car would be mine very fast...irrespective of "poker knowledge".

The same reason you have 100000 times more economy professors and "experts" than actual people who become rich. Why is that?

We can also digg a bit deeper. As a coach i explored the weakness in the THINKING of my students. Once we fixed that together, the rest was EASY. That's why they crush years after, because we eliminated the virus in their thinking. Think and act like a winner and you'll be one. Sounds regurgitated and cheesy, but this habit is the biggest "secret".
If you teach a "strategy", things will work until there is a better strategy.

Funny enough, i have learnt this through my successful students who told me that what was more important to them learning from me/BPC was the winner mentality. If i heard this without knowing the guys crushed (and didn't crush before), i would have not believed it myself...

Poker is a SUPER SIMPLE game on the intellectual part. There's a reason why you don't see somebody start playing chess and become world champ in 5 or even 10 years. In poker it's easily possible as we've seen many times.

The bigger skill in poker is mastering yourself. Your emotions. Your ego. Tilt. The study-component is increasing the more the game gets solved/close to getting solved tho.
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Old 09-09-2018, 11:06 AM   #3279
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Poker is a SUPER SIMPLE game on the intellectual part. There's a reason why you don't see somebody start playing chess and become world champ in 5 or even 10 years. In poker it's easily possible as we've seen many times.

The bigger skill in poker is mastering yourself. Your emotions. Your ego. Tilt. The study-component is increasing the more the game gets solved/close to getting solved tho.
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Old 09-14-2018, 09:58 AM   #3280
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I like the look of your course, though I'm not sure if I have the deposit laying around but I'll see what I can do.

Anyway is it okay if I ask some questions here or should I contact your support?

First I was wondering if you have restrictions on rooms I can play on.

Second I was wondering if I would be allowed to play other game types if I'm putting in at least the minimum required volume with the specified game type. For example if I feel like playing a few MTTs. My end goal is to play MTTs anyway but I think being a solid winner in cash games would obviously go a long way towards that goal which is why I like your course.

Third I know you may not accept program transfers but is it possible to switch from Zoom to regular 6-max? I'm doing well in 5NL 6 max (over a small sample size) but was getting crushed in 5NL Zoom. I would prefer to learn at Zoom tables as I think the games are harder so it would provide a better environment for me to learn, but I am worried about not quite cutting it. Alternatively, am I able to sign up for the Zoom course and occasionally play regular tables? For example if I'm winning at 5NL Zoom and losing at 10NL Zoom can I throw in a table or two of regular 6 max 10NL to help make the transition?

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And since you want entertainment, there is a lot of entertainment from a recently released YT video by Gordon.

Gordon admires Hitler and recommends his students to listen to Hitler speeches:

https://youtu.be/fP-MLyzw3Cs?t=4288

https://youtu.be/fP-MLyzw3Cs?t=4580

This pretty much sums up and explains why you are the way you are.
I think this is foolish. First of all he's not promoting Nazi ideology. Second of all I actually think the actions of Hitler can be applied to poker.

He listened to someone who wasn't a top general to abandon conventional warfare of using tanks as supports for infantry units with a spread out attack to implement a blitzkrieg strategy of using overwhelming force on a single location. However, his ego got the best of him and after this he thought himself a strategic mastermind and made blunder after blunder ignoring his generals ultimately losing the war. The Allied world was extremely lucky that Hitler had this ego as the war was not only extremely close but Hitler quite literally snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. This is an extremely important lesson for poker. Due to being results oriented from past results he ignored good advice and it cost him everything. His life, his family, his friends and his name in history. It's quite the cautionary tale for a poker player.

On top of that he was certainly great at exploitative play. He understood what his people were thinking, he used it to get ahead and told them a story that made sense to them and it didn't matter if it was true. He was able to spot opportunities and understood how people thought. He was a brilliant politician that understood population tendencies but his downfall was extreme ego that prevented objective analysis of his performance.

None of this is saying this a good guy, lets all worship Hitler and be Nazis. If anything it's a major historical example of tilt that should be avoided. To suggest we completely remove him from history and learn nothing from him is insane.

Where do you draw the line on the brutal killers of history that should and shouldn't be studied? Is Caesar acceptable? Is Genghis Khan? I'm not saying this to compare them, Hitler is one of the worst people in history, but I'm genuinely curious when someone becomes so bad that you don't think anyone should learn a thing from them. I for one am glad that despite the atrocities the Nazis committed the western world didn't have the same knee-jerk reaction and was willing to learn from them and at least move the needle back over by getting something back from their actions. Military strategy, engineering such as winning the space race moving technology forward, and medical advances that have saved lives despite being learned through barbaric methods.

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Old 09-14-2018, 12:46 PM   #3281
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Oh I was also wondering if you accept payments like transfers on sites by giving a coupon code after the transfer. I'm not sure if Tiger Gaming has player to player transfers but the vast majority of my roll is there from years ago when I was a bad winning reg when it was Action Poker network. I can't withdraw there until I make a new deposit, but since it's on a new network I want to wait until I can maximize my first deposit bonus. I could see that violating ToS or something though but it would make things sooo much simpler if I decided to apply with you guys
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Old 09-15-2018, 06:52 AM   #3282
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I think its quite obvious that if hitler was born in our generation and decided to become a poker player that he would def be spending most of his time battling otb and linus on pokerstars.

a more interesting thought however is who would end up with all the money if caesar augustus, genghis khan and hitler played 3 handed nlhe?
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Old 09-15-2018, 08:11 AM   #3283
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I think its quite obvious that if hitler was born in our generation and decided to become a poker player that he would def be spending most of his time battling otb and linus on pokerstars.

a more interesting thought however is who would end up with all the money if caesar augustus, genghis khan and hitler played 3 handed nlhe?
Caesar AINEC

Hitler is that fish who got a $40k score and blew it all playing $500/1K MTTs because he thought he was good instead of lucky.
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Old 09-16-2018, 06:56 PM   #3284
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@CameronN

1) Rooms to play: Generally speaking we decide and you have to follow our instructions on all matters related to poker. You get free coaching worth thousands, so we call the shots. Don't forget, we want you to win as much as fast as possible. Only way we make money.

2) Switching between programs: Inside the CFP switching is not encouraged. Which game you want to play (zoom vs 6-max) is up to you, although generally speaking 6-max is softer and recommended first if you struggle.

3) "Not having deposit laying around". No problem, no rush. We want people to be invested in their success and if you're not yet serious about it, don't join.

If you like to call your own shots (which site to play, how to play etc), i recommend you buying a course instead. High quality materials but no pressure or rules to follow. You're your own boss.

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Other than that, let's keep this about poker, although the comments were funny. People have been killing each other for all of history. We try to keep the killing limited to the poker table .
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Old 09-28-2018, 11:53 AM   #3285
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Guy guys,

Lauri is one of the finishers in the NLHU Soldier program, he won 60k in 1 year and 1 month. Nowadays he is working as a coach for BPC and constantly crushing at the tables.

You can watch his interview in the Poker Camp in Cannes last year:




Check one of his graphs:



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Old 09-29-2018, 05:54 AM   #3286
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Old 09-29-2018, 04:48 PM   #3287
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Hi Gordon, I'm interested in the programme however looking at the website it seems there is no info regarding the terms of the contract. Are these terms (% of profit payments etc etc) only available when someone pays the 500 deposit? Or is this something you can email me if it's not suppose to be in the public domain. Many thanks
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Old 10-01-2018, 07:14 AM   #3288
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Hi, it's all publicly available, you can read exact terms and conditions and other FAQ about our CFP here:

https://support.bestpokercoaching.co...r-Profits-CFP-

Sample contract: https://support.bestpokercoaching.co...act-look-like-
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Old 10-03-2018, 06:28 PM   #3289
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What do you think about Joe Ingrams recent podcast where HS reg Makeboifin said that BPC is a scum and that the only good CFPs are BTS/BITB?
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Old 10-04-2018, 04:07 AM   #3290
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Don't know the guy. Didn't watch that podcast since Doug Polk was on there calling his former partner Jnandez a scammer, or Jnandez calling him a scammer, or whatever was going on, people apparently didnt pay for some stuff, people apparently hired micro guys to produce vids sold as "highstakes" content, everybody hates everybody, people suing people, who can keep track... One day best buddies, next day at each other's throats. One could get the impression mudslinging is a regular guest there, I guess it drives the views, who knows, who cares.

So yea, no idea what they said this time. But I'm sure this time they backed it up with rational, empirical evidence like always, because I've never heard them (or certain other poker players) randomly name-calling each other...

Our response, like always, is link to results, amateurs turned into poker pros on a regular basis.

48 guys here:

https://www.bestpokercoaching.com/student-success-stories/

(includes video reviews by the students, graphs, etc)


And another 100+ blog interviews from guys improving and having a blast with BPC, read their interviews here:

https://www.bestpokercoaching.com/po...ccess-stories/

Btw last month's rankings were won by Alessio, 6-max student, with €14k+ in winnings (that's about 16k USD):

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Old 10-04-2018, 05:32 AM   #3291
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You are right he should backed up his allegations. He was talking about 2 guys out of 100 succeeding. These guys would be then advertised till the death from your side.

But then on the other side when I skim thru your blog I see advertisement for mostly the same guys. Some of them finishing their contract years ago. Which backs up his allegations at least a little bit.

Also when talking about empirical data, you should provide the overall success rate of your students. It is nice that 48 people have succeeded, but if 48 succeeded out of 5000 than it is a completely other story.

Imo by providing a successful rate you would definitely clear your name.
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Old 10-05-2018, 03:03 AM   #3292
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Not really. When people wanna smear, they find a reason to smear. Lot's of smearing going on on that channel, mini-dramas, gossip, etc. Jnandez pulled a sheet with all the money apparently owed to him by Doug Polk, screenshots of whattsup messages and did 1 hour video on it. Result - never got invited back to the channel, and got dragged through the mud even more, and apparently now through the court... Giving a nice affiliate cut to the host does seem to earn you a good spin there though

Point is, haters will hate, and I don't see a need to engage some guy slinging mud around on youtube. That's emotional, it's not rational, so any attempt at a rational debate is pointless. We provide results, and anybody can decide on their own.

FWIW, this debate is as old as this thread. At first our success rate was close to 100%, because students were few, and hand-picked. Now we gave a shot to anybody who showed ambition to improve, and success rate of course goes down.

I don't have exact numbers, but here's how one poster summed it up recently, which I tend to agree with:


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however its a stupid question and stupid way to measure how good of a coaching company they are imo, and if they are going to answer the question with exact figures then its only fair to have exact numbers on how many of their students were total boneheads.

its like, if i coach 10 ppl on how to lose weight, 1 person follows the instructions to a T and loses tons of weight but the other 9 dont lose any because they were sneaking in KFC and pizza hut, am i a bad coach?
If 48 people completing the program (btw just updated to 49 yesterday) are not a clear demonstration that it can be done by anybody with ambition to improve, CFP might not be the right choice.

Because simply showing up and expecting to win money because 88% of people finished, will put a student in that other 12% very fast. In the end it's the student who needs to do the work.
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Old 10-05-2018, 08:05 AM   #3293
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It may have been implied, but Makeboifin didn't directly call BPC scammers.

He said if a company takes on 100 students and only 5 are successful, they will market the **** out of them. Call it what you want but that's not a scam. No one is putting a gun to people's heads and forcing them to signup to their coaching programs. Maybe some disagree with their business practices and marketing initiatives but that doesn't make it a scam. Let's smarten up here guys.

Don't you think if BPC (or anyone else for that matter) took on less students they'd have a higher success rate? If they only took on 10 students per year with a very rigorous interview process with background checks and everything else, would the success rate not go through the roof?
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Hey guys,

Alex "Lateralus" is a Coaching for Profits finisher in the €30k NL 6-max Crusher program. When he joined, he started at the smallest stake possible online, NL2, and he finished playing NL200.

You can watch an interview with him in the poker camp last year in Cannes:



Here is the graph of his last 100k hands in the program:



You can read a blog post about him here
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Hey,

Looking to join the micro program.

My bankroll is currently on pokerstars, am i allowed to stay and play on this site? I only saw 888 and Partypoker affiliate links when i logged into your website.

Also, i met a friend through instagram who is apart of your Micro program. He told me that once in a while a coupon code is available for the deposit. I was wondering if one of these could be sent to me or if they will be available soon? Im from Canada and 500 euro equates to 750 Canadian which is a bit high for me as a micro player.

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Hey,

If you join the Micro program you can play in whatever site you want, but we highly recommend you to play on the links we provide because you'll get the best rakeback deals in the World with them, which is something Poker Stars can't give it to you.

Regarding the coupon, we don't have any promotions running, so we don't have one to give to you. The promotions only happen once in a while, so it is better to join the program now and start improving as soon as possible, otherwise, you'll be losing money waiting.
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Hey guys,

Danel is one of the students that finished the 60k NL 6-max Crusher program, he did it in 1 year and 1 month.

You can watch an interview with him below:



This is his graph in the program:



Read his case study here
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