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Old 06-18-2018, 03:57 AM   #3176
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Re: Bestpokercoaching.com. Coaching For Profits. From $50 to $100k in 9months. Publicly Documen

It's monday and spin promo is OVER.



Ignore the bug with the still running timer in previous post, I guess it's like a duracel rabbit, just keeps going

Anyway congratz & welcome to our new Spin members, and let's crush it!

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TheeRealHoff is already making angry picket signs to protest and demand we extend Spin promo specially for him because the buggy timer in the old post still runs... Preparing smart poker variants of nice socialist and communist slogans to write on the cardboard signs...

It's a shame how many entitled freeloaders we have today, not just in poker. Count on a public worker / bureaucrat / union rep to beg for free stuff from a private business every time! No more free lunches, it's time to actually try working to deserve things in life. Crazy idea, I know...

Of course grinding is better than working, so for anybody ready to put in the effort, we have changed many lives with our program: RISK-FREE Coaching for profits.

Here's one such story:

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Old 06-19-2018, 10:35 AM   #3177
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TheeRealHoff is already making angry picket signs to protest and demand we extend Spin promo specially for him because the buggy timer in the old post still runs... Preparing smart poker variants of nice socialist and communist slogans to write on the cardboard signs...

It's a shame how many entitled freeloaders we have today, not just in poker. Count on a public worker / bureaucrat / union rep to beg for free stuff from a private business every time! No more free lunches, it's time to actually try working to deserve things in life. Crazy idea, I know...

Here you go lying again. You might want to check with Gordon before you dig yourself into a deeper hole.

1. I am far from a socialist or a troll and to call someone who wanted to be a customer that is grossly unprofessional.

2. I am not looking for "free stuff". As the e-mail stated I was a former student and already paid $500. Whomever wrote the e-mail chose the term "no-charge." Not me. You offered it for free, so no I do not feel "entitled" as you say but rather I am owed what I had already paid for as set forth in the policy described in the e-mail.

3. The literal definition of an "open door policy" is to "come in anytime."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_d...icy_(business)

"As the term implies, employees are encouraged to stop by whenever they feel the need to meet and ask questions, discuss suggestions, and address problems or concerns with management."

4. A policy is not a "promo" as you say and does not expire. It can be changed however. Your Terms and Conditions says that there will be an e-mail and notice of the change on the website.

https://www.bestpokercoaching.com/terms-conditions/

"Any changes will be communicated to the User through the following methods:

Email (to the email address You have previously supplied to us) via the Best Poker Coaching newsletter and
A notice on our website (bestpokercoaching.com)."

At this point I am very politely going to suggest you stop the rude behavior and do the right thing before this gets any worse or out of hand. You know how to find me.
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Old 06-19-2018, 04:28 PM   #3178
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oh spare us the self-righteous "I'm very politely asking" act Hoff, nobody here buys it

you've been nothing but insulting and threatening since the moment you were told by our team that last year's promo is long over - and that the rules also apply to you - just like everyone else

our team said you were offered a VERY generous discount to re-join the program + both deposits back - they were just being friendly and welcoming to a former BPC member!

but it wasnt enough, was it, you wanted it for free, and resorted to insults and threats the moment you didnt get free stuff, as if that's gonna somehow make us want to coach you??

security deposit is there precisely to keep guys who dont want to pay it - out

it's our filter, and works very well 99% of the time

so its also hard to believe that you ever paid the full $500 sec deposit like you claim, it just doesnt fit to somebody who gets so upset over missing out on some old free stuff

and just for the record - asking for free stuff is not "wanting to become our customer"

but here's what's really funny

there was a time long ago, when BPC had haters and trollz attacking our crazy success stories

BUT

then 2015 happened:



after that, 2016 happened



after THAT, 2017 happened



And now 2018 is happening

Students hitting 10k months, 15k months... month after month, year after year


Record day so far 15k, record month 30k - in a 60k contract! the guy finished half his 60k contract in 1 month!

he was even on pokernews, btw: click to read it here


so now after years of record months, changed lives and building the best poker community on the planet - now even the trolls and haters are actually TRYING TO GET IN to the program! For free lolz!

Who can say that - when even the haters start threatening just to get a spot in your program... priceless.

To be fair, most of them come back later on and apologize for losing their heads and pay respect. Mostly privatelly, but that's ok. We're not here to rub anybody's nose in it.

We're here to keep on improving. The programs are getting better and better.

We are investing heavily into the program.

Even some crazy things like NL1000, NL5000 regs coaching micro students! Not all, some still get "only" the NL100-200 coaches while playing NL2

On demand coaching.

1on1 coaching.

Small study groups with a dedicated coach. Highstakes crushers.

Proven results. It's gonna be the ride of your life.

It's all here: https://www.bestpokercoaching.com/coaching-for-profits/

BUT here's the trick - you gotta have beef in the game if you want all this. You gotta lay down the security deposit - which you get back after you finish.

If you're not willing to do this, it's ok - CFP is not for you. You don't have the right mentality (yet??). Maybe one day.

In the meantime, you can get a course and work on your game this way: https://www.bestpokercoaching.com/poker-courses
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Old 06-19-2018, 04:57 PM   #3179
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Calling you a liar isn’t an insult, it’s the truth. You’re just mad I caught you in a lie...and in the end you will pay for it...I paid my share you wanted more. That’s not what the email said and you know it. When are you going to grow up and act like an adult and admit what you said? I have every email you ever sent me. You made the policy not me. Again it was POLICY not a PROMO as you say. Maybe you should look up the definition of each. I’m just asking you to enforce THE POLICY YOU MADE!!!! But if you want to do this the hard way I’ll see you in court. Good luck sir.

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Old 06-19-2018, 05:16 PM   #3180
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And for the record, I’m not doubting the program...I don’t need your results. I know it works which is why I wanted to come back...my point is your taking advantage of people and lying to them about your policies and procedures. This is very bad for business. How are people supposed to trust you if you’re just going to lie to people who already gave you money? That’s the point you’re missing here.
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Old 06-19-2018, 06:39 PM   #3181
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You keep calling us liars. We're not native speakers, but I believe that's called defamation, libel and slander.

Nobody lied to you.

1. You joined the program in 2016, and later quit due to personal reasons. With that you gave up your security deposit. Nobody promised to you that one day in 2017 we will take a few guys back in with no deposit.

2. In 2017 we made an offer to some guys who quit, to come back - for free, without deposit. Some took that offer. You didn't take it. You can turn semantics however you want. You can call it however you like, policy, law, rule, promise, offer, promotion, or anything else. The chance was offered to you in 2017, and you didn't take it. Nobody promised to you that it will be available to you forever, or will ever come again.

3. In 2018 you now write asking to come back under that 2017 offer. We explained that it's not valid anymore. At that point you started calling us liars, "making money off people by lying to them" . There is no lie. You are slandering. Somehow not giving you the free gift of 2017 now in 2018 is "taking advantage of you".

Since you really wanted to start the program again, but didnt have the sec deposit or didnt want to pay it, our team offered you a huge discount + promise of both deposits back if you finish and don't quit this time. As a friendly offer to a former member. That's "taking advantage of you".

Since you called us liars and claimed we "make all that money from lying to people", posting results is appropriate. To demonstrate to the community - once again - where our earnings and the earnings of our students, as well as their trust, comes from.

From our/their hard work, and results we/they get.

In fact I see we missed the 2018 results, so I'm posting it here for the sake of completeness:



Students are finishing our programs all the time, and getting their deposits back. Here's a few from last couple of weeks:





Note - Chris didn't finish yet, I believe, but is on a good way to finish soon. Another student finished yesterday, and his interview is not up yet.


Find all the stories and examples here: LINK.


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Old 06-19-2018, 07:33 PM   #3182
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It’s not defamation, slander or libel if it is true.


You made the policy...

Policy clearly states “open door”

Policy clearly states “no-charge”

It was not a promo...

It therefore does not expire...


It however can change....

However per your own terms and conditions it was never changed...

You won’t enforce your own policy...

I’m not asking for anything I didn’t already pay for...

Google is free and has thousands of definitions if you are confused about the meaning of the words your company chose to use...


Refusing to enforce the policy you made up makes it an outright lie...

Therefore you are a liar....

Truth not defamation

Other players success doesn’t prove that you aren’t lying and screwing over people that already paid for your service.


I only wanted what I had paid for per your policies.
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