Any idea on a time frame when you guys will have an open spot for 6m PLO CFP?

@ThinkItThrough:
Looks like CFP program is a cool idea! I have two questions...

1) Do you accept deaf students like me?

2) If I have no preference in which type of games to play, would you recommend which one to start?

Thanks!

No specific time set for now. Maybe check out other programs? We have brand new Spin and soon also MTT (matter of a week or two).

Our bread and butter is HU and 6max cash.

1) We accept, but you need to understand that videos are the main learning tool, so i'm not sure how that would work out.

But funny that you ask because i was told we had a deaf or mute guy in either the BPC Club or CFP. One of our team members suggested to do subtitles and i jokingly answered why not do coaching in sign language as well...
We did some subtitles, but to be honest with you, it's not economical. Quite an expensive process and not enough deaf/mute people who wanna play poker ;(

I hope that the subtitling voice recognition technology that youtube uses becomes better because it sucks. In the meanwhile, i can only advise you to read books.
Or find poker videos on youtube, some voices might actually work...but you probably already know this.

Learning the game, starting with a "gto approach" is a lot harder and your ROI sucks compared to our approach, but you can profit from this on higher stakes.

If you were to say that you are going to go hardcore, play 200+ hours each month, i might be able to find a willing coach to do things in written. But you'd be looking at a high security deposit.

2) 6max cash generally speaking. When you like to read or if that is the only option of learning, then something strongly mathematical could be useful since main work will involve tools and not listening to a long string of thoughts.

In this case, MTTs/Spin&Go's are possibly even a better option.

The correct answer always depends on your goals and how much time you're willing to invest.


If you have not tried any of our books (we don't have many, just a few), email our support and we can bundle them for you and sell them without videos.

Excuse my ignorance, but perhaps you know some great tools that can make this process easy. Let us know.

Cool! Thanks for the accepting! Yeah, watching videos was my main concern.

Smiles, yeah I wish!!!! Maybe I should be the sign language coach someday :-P

I dig ya...I am curious how many hours of videos you've produced per game program? Maybe I'll invest the subtitle services.

Yeah, YouTube's auto subtitles still suck ass :-/ Alright, which books, software and YouTube videos should I study for online cash games and GTO?

Geez, 200+ hours each month...ummmmmmmm since I work part-time for 13 years, I can spend 7 hours of play everyday so that's just enough to meet 200+ hours each month ( 7 hours * 30 days ).

I understand... what amount of security deposit do you have in mind?

Math vs long string of thoughts...mmmmmm...my math level is pre-calculus but that was long time ago lol...I think I'll start with cash games for now.

Does your CFP programs include books?

Nah, no worries...I think books, software, forums, chat via text, subtitles & transcriptions are the best options.

PM me if you prefer to reply in private...

Once again, thanks!

Accurate subtitling costs roughly 60 Euro per video hour.

Sign-language, man, do that. Would be hilarious to watch for people who don't get it, maybe create a deaf-poker channel or somth. You'd be a hero in your community.
If you do, you'll get free press and all the do-gooders will want to coach you for free. Take advantage of it, that's certainly what I would do if I were you.

My advice is to read books and turn them into videos (from famous authors like Phil hellmuth, negreanu, some 2p2 stuff).
Do one video each day, after you have 10 videos, send links to all poker press outlets "DEAF guy teaches poker Sign Language"

I can't recommend you anybody on youtube specifically. I just know there are many.

Our programs are 98% video / live-voice-communication based. If you promise 7hours per day and a 2k security deposit, i'm sure you'll find somebody. Maybe some other coach here in the forum might be interested.

But i think you'll get better results with the youtube part and you'll learn so much along the way.

Here is something...btw, afaik sign language is international, aka no difference between an Italian Deaf speaker and English deaf speaker, correct?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUMomiSU100

Find your way around.

Hey guys!

I've got awesome news for you! We have one more Coaching for Profits finisher!

Adam "Adamlandelius" finished his 10k NL 6-max contract this week.



He was a losing player before joining CFP, and in his own words "I managed to go from a losing player to a winning one in only a couple of days after joining”

According to him, the key factors that led him to achieve his goals where: Understanding variance, playing a lot and learning how to plan a hand from the start.

You can read the interview we had with him and see his final graph HERE.

Hello,

I received this email from you


CFP contract termination




Hello akawhatalyfe,

despite several attempts from our side to contact you, as well as nice and direct warnings, you have ignored us. Or in other words, you have broken the terms of the CFP contract and because of that we will have to inactivate your account. Your account is terminated and yes, the security deposit is lost.

There might be many reasons and at BPC we always want to treat you like a friend. Sometimes you deserves this, sometimes not. Maybe CFP simply is not the right type of program for you (seems like!).

For players like yourself, who love the BPC materials and approach, we have created the BPC Academy. To find more about the academy, check out this link and go to BPC Academy: http://www.bestpokercoaching.com/poker-courses/

The short version is that you will find close to the same material (unless you play higher stakes already). You will also have 4-6 live coaching sessions per month where you can ask your coach anything you want. In addition to that we answer every single hand and question in our forum or facebook group. And, 100% of profits belong to you. No contract. No bankroll updates.

In order to get into the academy you need to pay a 300-500 euro sign-up fee + a monthly subscription fee between 29-50 Euro - depending on the program.
Since we treat you’re part of the BPC family, we will not require you to pay the signup fee. That’s a free gift, which you can accept or not. That’s up to you. We really hate to see you just “lose” the security deposit, that’s not what it was made for. On the other side we have rules and the CFP program is the “hardcore version”, which simply is not for everybody.

Of course if you are interested in joining another CFP program (or give it another try), we can offer a reduced security deposit. But please think twice about it and only consider this option if you really are serious this time.

Just answer to this email which option interests you most and we will help you. Also, keep in mind this is a gift, and it will not last forever. If you wait too long, the offer might not be available anymore.

Good luck!

Your BPC Team

1. I have had no contact from you, I have received no emails from you regarding this.

2. If anything, I have been trying to contact YOU. I have left a post on the forum asking for help on signing up with affiliates, I have emailed this your support address a number of times asking for assistance and to be frank the help has been minimal. This was after I had been contacting your skype support, which you have no closed.

3. I was still working my way through the homework, as you can see, and I was told there was no time limit on this. I have a very busy schedule, and have been abroad this past week, but as you said there was no time limit, I was going through it as and when I was available.I got up to 408 points and now I can't access the course to continue learning.

Can you please explain why my contract has been terminated? I have provided everything you have requested.

Thanks,
Dex

I have just been told by Ivan that it's because I did not update my bankroll. Which is funny because he's the same person that said my contract would not be terminated if I didn't update my bankroll for a week as I was expressing concerns because I was going to be away for a week (abroad) and wouldn't be able to do so.

I haven't even played one hand of poker since joining BPC because I am still going through all the homework, I was doing this all correctly and yet I have now been terminated. This is not fair.

Hello Dex,

you will actually be reinstated, but not because you posted here and complained. The decision was already made before that.

What everybody needs to know is that when you sign up for Coaching for Profits, you have DUTIES (!!!).
This is not a free-coaching-let's-have-some-fun-club and do whatever you want.

If you can't be bothered to update (takes less than a minute!) the bankroll, then you have no business being in a program where you receive free coaching (until you win ofc).

If there was miscommunication when in doubt, we side with the student. If that was the case here, everything will be fixed.

Funny that you can binge post everything, but no proof of what you claim. Please send/post chat logs or emails where anybody from our team ever said that you don't have to update your bankroll without asking for permission/informing us ahead of time.

If you show that, you'll get a public apology from that team member because all our rules say the exact opposite.
Otherwise, I'll expect one from you for being a cry-baby.

We're the biggest operation out there, so i wouldn't bet my life on it that my team "never" miscommunicates, but just coming here and crying is not cool (without proof).

You'll be reinstated for other reasons (mainly bc you're new + you did homeworks).

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For everybody else:

If you're a member of the BPC - Club, we treat you differently. You pay a monthly fee and you as the customer are the king. The moment you don't like things, you can cancel the membership with 2 clicks. We make that very easy for you.


Coaching for Profits is different. You get something "for free" (until you win), the coach takes the full risk so you gotta STFU and do things like all the winners.
If you want to make any demands, be honest and pay a coach by the hour, then you're the king again. Otherwise, STFU or leave.
You can't have it both ways and I am very happy kicking out these types of people very fast. CFP is a place for people who want to win. Not a place for spoiled brats and people who think they buy a "product".

Making 100k in your first/second year of poker is NOT EASY. It takes a lot of hardcore work. People with baby issues are not going to make it and we don't want to waste any time.
There are a few cheap chinese copy-cats out there who are not even 10% of what we are. Maybe try there, they still have something to prove.

Hey,

Thanks for your email. I have heard from Alex over email and he has explained the same as you. I can assure you I am going to make a success of this, but my progress is slow because of my (unfortunate) work schedule. I only missed the bankroll updates because I was away, I didn't realise I had to communicate this, but from now on, I will.

I wouldn't make up the fact that Ivan said my contract wouldn't get terminated, the reason he even said that is because I expressed concerns about getting emails from you saying Update your bankroll or risk being terminated. I'm not sure exactly how it was worded by Ivan, but I also can't find logs of the chat (it was the pop-up chat from your website), I thought they were sent to me but having looked through my emails I can't find them. Whether you choose to believe me or not is up to you. I may have them somewhere so I will continue to look for them, for some reason I have copies of some chats and not of others.

However as I can't find the logs currently I won't continue to make that particular point.

Thank you for reinstating my account, I have actually just been in touch with your support team again because I couldn't log in to my https://cfp.bestpokercoaching.com for some reason to update my bankroll, and the password hasn't been sent to me yet from the recovery method, so I'm just waiting for a response before I can finally update it!

Finally, if this is Gordon I'm speaking to, can I organise to have a chat with you at some point, on email or Skype etc please

Hey Dex,

it's alright, usually, chat transcripts are sent automatically by the system. Perhaps you have accidentally input a wrong email/missed a letter. Either way, we're cool. We also do 100% support via email now (don't offer skype support either anymore) because this way we have everything in one place and a case like yours can easily be looked at, we see all history, past tickets and can help you faster and better.

Make sure our email is white-listed and if you're waiting for anything, email our support, you can get 24/7 fast answers. So if you don't receive the recovery in 5min, email so our team manually resets things. Our green FAQ search tool is super effective, 95% of emails we get are actually answered there already.

About email, I'm currently very busy, but that's what we have a team for. I always help out at random times in support to keep a finger on the pulse. If you have questions, pls email us there. If it's about poker ask the coach in the next session.
CFP finishers/elite group are the only ones to have the opportunity for personal access.

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Off-topic: I miss the real haters here a little bit. It's less fun. Why are they so weak, why do they die so fast? Haven't they called us dead so many times already?

pretty sure codecci is still tryin to lose his virgins.

If that's true, we'll never hear from him again ;(

So I will ask this again as it has yet to be answered : HAVE ANY US PLAYERS COMPLTED CFP TO DATE??

Sorry that you're so mad buddy!

You can apologize for your DEMANDING TONE AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A CIVIL CONVERSATION LIKE ADULTS, NOT LIKE TEENAGERS WHO FORGOT TO TURN OF ALL CAPS.
You're not of any importance to anybody here, so know your place, speak in a humble way and you'll get further. Show me the research you did on your own and then I might help you complete more info.

Many things we do are public, some people (higher profile typically) wish to stay anonymous.

Hey people of 2+2

My question for you is simple but hard to answer: What is the most profitable game in 2017 and where do you think there is a future? (think before you answer)

I am currently grinding 15/30 dollar spins and I am in a stable so I am not looking to change anything right now, but I am just looking forward to see where the future is as spins are getting though.

Should I get back to PLO and get good at it and grind out ZOOM tables? I am fan of big multitablers like Nanonoko and others who make a lot playing medium stakes.

I am also looking for sites to look up cash game stats/graphs if you have any.

If you know about anyone making a lot of money playing something weird like draw am I interested in knowing that too. ingve12345 on skype.

Ask Nostradamus!

It's difficult when people ask questions like "what should I do with my life". You want a simple answer to a complicated question. I'm all for simplification, that's my trademark.

"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not more simple"

Even IF you knew that one variant of poker would be the hot thing in 2017, you will not be good enough in time to take advantage of it.

Your question also completely ignores your life situation, propensity for risk, time to invest and long-term plans.

With that in mind, Spins is a fine choice for online games and definitely the "hot game" these days. So my advice here is to not change anything you're doing.

The downside is that you're more at the mercy of sites not increasing rake since win-rates are capped. At cash games, you can at least get better if rake is increased or god knows, play live.

There are many nuances and while you can spend time thinking about these, the best strategy is to BECOME BETTER at whatever you do. That's the guaranteed way to beat everyone else.

Competition in online poker and in the world in general is just ridiculous.

Thanks

I dont know who he is, but I will keep spins up until I hear something awesome new is coming.

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what happens if someone busts his roll during cfp?

It's actually impossible if you follow our bankroll management advice.

First of all, we start out by telling you to play a limit you beat. If you happen to not beat it, you move down.

Now your next question could be "what if I loose on the lowest limits possible"?

This can't happen as you'll be playing against drunks and people who just learned the game.

Literally "going broke" in this game is impossible unless you have got big gambling problems and in that case, you should solve other problems first.

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Every 3 months or so, we have one case where a guy does something stupid. Like his normal limit being NL10, but then playing NL50 and busting a huge % of his roll.
That's incredibly stupid and a reason to be kicked out of the program. However, in some cases we give second chances and in such cases, the player can add to his bankroll with his own money.

Would I need to be able to do real time calculations in my head to succeed in this program?