I had extremely bad experience not only once twice !
They do advertise and talk a lot but once you try to work with them it’s extremely dissapointing!
I m a professional live poker player from canada that I average 8 to 10k monthly and I do have good result in my last 2000 hours recorded,
I wanted to get into online game and everywhere I saw bpc adds and my mailbox full of their email marketing emails ,so I looked into it and decided to join heads up program coaching for profit,
I wanted to purchase but in cart was showing tornement course,
It almost took 3 days till someone could fix the issue but since it took so long I was thinking may be they have issues with their software and I thought maybe I should be more careful ,I was asking some question about the contract and I was told despite I want to register for heads up I have to split profit from any format
Tournament Pielo 6 max anything!
This was not fair but the rep told me to try the academy to see how the training is,
I registered with academy and I was told that 10 coaching webinar is included ,
Before I registered nowhere said your sessions would expire but after I registered I see expiration date for 30 days
This seems very unfair since I had to do a surgery and actually couple weeks would be wasted there but they have no refund on anything and try to squeeze every penny out of u how ever they can even if you are under surgery!
Anyway I did still try to see how their coaching session is and went through instruction to register,it was written to copy the link from calendar to address bar and I did so and a message showed that the webinar starts in 4 hours,
Since I wanted to check the webinar do I didn’t go to my live game and waited for webinar to start but it never started !
After waiting 4 h it said the webinar starts shortly ,
Supposed to start 130 my time
And at 145 it shows that it starts in 3 days !
This was the first time and my whole day was wasted plus my money,
Next week I try again and still exactly the same!
At this point I don’t even know that those webinar ever happened or this was just a scam to take my money,
After sending messages and trying to talk to live chat at my 4th attempted that same scenario happens, the rep ask me to send a screen shot for every issue that happened,
They don’t even belive me that I don’t have access and ask for proof!
Almost everything on the site gives error and u have to take screen shot or else no one belives you!
He finally send me a link to join webinar and I could join for last 5 min since 45 min I was trying to connect,
I told the rep what happened and asked if he could provide a refund or extended me for extra 30 days, he told me to wait till he checks
His name was Ivan , I waited 50 min for him to come back but after 1 hour the chat window was closed ,so they took my money without providing any coaching!
I tried to view some of the recorded sessions and I see the coach talking with couple of students that seem to be coaching for profit for micro 1cent 2 cents game,
What I saw was very basic concepts of micro stack and coach could hardly speak English ,
In advertisement it said this course for 50 And 100 nl, and samples are with different coach And once u register it’s totaly different story
Nothing technical works on the site and any issue you have they ask for screen shot so may be you get fraustrated and give up,
What they advertise and what u get are totally different ,
If you are new to Poker and never used any other site may this would be normal but the customer service is outrages and total rip off,
I used different training site and this is by far the worse site ever,since u have to struggle getting access and customer service would not care what so ever and they just want to take your money,
They send emails about your experience and each time that I wrote them about how terrible my experience was no one gets back to me,
I strongly suggest to avoide this site and not to waste your money,
Upswing Poker has amazing customer service and great content ,
After I saw how dishonest bpc isi can’t trust any result they post here and there,
They spend a lot on marketing but they don’t have much to offer,
I am not a begginer, I play poker for living for years, I make above 100k yearly but I don’t play online, I have tried many training sites and I undrestand when I see quality content and quality customer service,
This is not one of them,
I feel scammed and cheated,and hopefully other people won’t go through this and wast so much time and money on a scam site

To who ever is thinking to register and read their promises ,
Not only they won’t pay you and take your deposit, even if you wNt to talk to someone and say what you going through , they make you wait for hours till you give up
Only thing you can expect is that if one day you be lucky to win anything in any site , they take half your winnings
That’s for sure
They are so many better site , don’t give your hard earned money to people who don’t care about service they provide and looking for any reason to scam you

None of us came close to finishing the PLO 6max contracts with John Beauprez. The reasons for this will be spun to make myself and the other participants look bad . I stayed in until BPC severed ties with JB and the PLO students, and none of us came close to finishing. Good luck in your endeavors.

I guess it`s very hard to make money in plo.

Plo games are overal softer than Holdem live and online both since they are Holdem players transitioning all the time,
You are looking at the wrong site,
I have heard good things about plo of upswing, I may get it soon

@ Purasevic: PLO is certainly harder to learn than NL, especially with less time at your disposal. Also its hard to compare anything to our other programs, so ofc PLO was at a natural disadvantage there.

@Derp: I can just repeat what BPC support said. You might have not talked to them (we segregate inside the area based on factors like time invested, study progress etc).

Company grew a lot, but i'm still the one sending the money to coaches every month etc. So based on that we either made some nice charitable donations to the JB foundation or *some* people were winning .
Overall not as much as we wished, but you gotta put things in perspective.

Not blaming you or any other individual student here in public, pls don't make up stuff. If you want to discuss individual students or your own progress, we can do this of course based on our data. Either way, we're here to help people like you at the end of the day, and in the spirit of Xmas, anything i can do for you besides rigging stars algorithm ?

@Armen: You have written a long post before, you have made requests for a special deal, we have kindly declined.
You don't have the right attitude for coaching for profits, we are NOT a bazaar. We have strict rules, we treat everybody the same. We make those rules very clear upfront. Point out a specific "we said x, but you got y". I'm sure you wont be able to, if you do and we did a mistake, we will correct it.
But don't just write a wall of text. Better even, please find your luck elsewhere. And if you do, our team is happy for you.

The company you mentioned, if you like them, great! They're not competition, afaik they don't offer CFP. Do your research tho, they used to have a coaching thread here where people wrote reviews...and then it was gone.

Best wishes!

On another news:

We have a new finisher of the 60k Euro!

You'll soon hear about him. We also had another finisher, but over Xmas time things get clogged .

@Armen: I also started an investigation. If you have been done any wrong, you can count 100% on being made up for it. I have to get both sides tho.

We're here for 6+ years and so many success stories for a reason. While i'm ambivalent about you right now, being treated fairly is a courtesy given to EVERYBODY, no matter what they say.

@Armen what you say is simply not true. You purchased the Academy, it's explained on the page that your 10 sessions expire after 1 month. To be fair, it's more like 12 sessions, and for the price you get it's a bonus.

Our support team asked for screenshots from you since the chat lasted so long, so we could help you faster. This is standard procedure. One image can tell more than a 1000 words, especially when the user cannot find a link, or is unsure where to click.

All the seminars happened, as they do happen every month, 10-12 of them. You registered, but never joined. Perhaps you didnt check your email to find the join link?

We have also extended your 1 month for free to another month. We told you in chat, and we sent you follow up emails with this information. That was last week. Perhaps you didn't check your emails?

As for the coach who you say can barely speak English, I assume this would be Lateralus, since the other coach in those webinars is Alan Jackson, native speaker.

Lateralus finished our 6-max Crusher program, is now playing NL500 as his lowest stake and plays up to NL10k last time I checked. Here's an interview with him, we're not all native english speakers, but I leave it to anyone to judge the english from the interview. We never had any complaints so far and his webinars as well as coaching consistently get high ratings. He is one of the most popular and highly respected members of community.

Well I never signed up for coaching for prophit because your software has wY too much issues,
Tornement was going to cart instead of heads up,
Took days to fix it, i did not ask for anything ,
I asked for your own software to work!
Thank god it didn’t go through since with this type of customer service I would be stuck with it ,
I did register for academy after but I guess this was a scam too since I could not have even one session from 10 yet,
I could get in the last 10 min of one session that was for micro 1 cent 2 cent,
The academy never mentioned is for micro stack or else I would never wast my money, no one from support even replies if I don’t post here,
Most post I read in these page are for people that were not happy with your service , and I was definitely unhappy,
Not only for coaching for prophit but also the academy both ,
If you are confident at what you do why you take every opportunity to take. Peoples deposit and money if you can?
If it’s heads up program you still want share from any other form of poker?
I sent multiple messages and request when I could not attend webinar but till I posted here no one answered,
I was kept 3 hours on hold, wasted a whole day and didn’t play live to attend and you wasted so much of my time for super basic beginner course that does not have much value ,
Maybe if you get people that have no idea about Poker and very beginner that could help them but for any higher level it’s such a waste,
Specially if anyone has any issue you won’t even reply till u get a post in this page, that’s very unprofessional ,
As it shows your plo program not successful I won’t know about Holdem, but even if we go by odds should get somewhere but how many other people got scammed ?
Everyone I see here finished here are from years ago and coaching here,
What if you show how many people u get out of email marketing and how many finish?
I guess who ever finishes becomes a coach?
I think it’s totally falls advertisement and almost 90 percent of posts here are from your Crüe
I guess you post as many so your bad feed back and review won’t be as visible?
I feel my Money is taken and I got nothing in return ,
Nothing from what advertised is true and extremely bad reputation I can see online from your site and From what I experienced,just troubleshooting your sites errors and sending screen shots so you fix it is already a full time job,
They are other coaching for prophit in 2 plus 2 that they seem to be real and not aiming towards taking peoples deposit and run,
I hope instead of fighting and being rude to people who complain about your service and taking peoples deposits and falls email campaigns , you put little more effort into having better service , spend a little on your platform to have less errors and bugs,
I have no personal issue with you guys and I was very close to sign your biggest program but your softwAre failed me,
As a person who tried your program I strongly advise to avoide anything you offer since you are very dishonest about you programs ,
I guess same story of plo is on your Holdem in a different scale

Allan Jackson had very good reputation but he is not on any sckedule,
I could only connect to last 10 min of 1 webinar,
I was connected since it had a countdown I explained to the rep Ivan I was chatting with after the third week that I could not connect and he finally fixed it after I was 3 hour on hold and I posted a terrible review for you here,
If I would not post that I would not get any reply!
From the 10 min I saw it was micro 1c 2cent game ,that the game play is very different,
I will check again the other recording so I can have a better detailed review about it after I check it out but I think you are using the name of Allen Jackson to get credit for yourself,
But I have not seen any webinar from him in calendar ,
AnywAy I open an old webinar and will post some details about it if it would be any useful ,

You got a free extra month since you were claiming you missed all sessions for 1 month due to 1) not finding links, 2) then it was your health problems and operations, and then you were 3) confused about the time zone, and so on. Our guys spent a lot of time with you in chat, then sent you follow up emails. You got a free 1 month, and now you're pretending you never got that also, cant find the email, and so on. Ok I see what's going on... I wont comment anymore on your "customer service" remarks since you're simply making stuff up. Anybody who has had contact with our support team knows the service we give. Reviews here.

Alan Jackson does about 10 webinars each month and as you can see in his other thread, plays high-stakes. The other coach in the Academy, "Lateralus", is playing the high-stakes also. But for sure many 6-max Academy customers play micros and bring micro stakes hands.

As for students, they are finishing programs all the time. 4-5 finished this month. A few more almost there and will be done in January.

Case studies for anybody interested, read here:






These are not all, there's more and you can find interviews with our students currently in our program on our website.

Since i still do the payments, i guess i must have been sending money to the private Alan Jackson foundation over the year(s) without him doing any coaching?!


What is more likely:

a) 6+ year old company claiming Alan Jackson does many monthly Coachings/Webinars for us on a website with tens/hundreds of thousands of active/passive users

b) Random guy who also shills for others writing wall of text. Uses excuse of operation and other bs...


Our support:
I have mercilessly cut payments (even fired ppl) when people don't show 100% dedication to our clients and only give 90% of energy.
We have a rule that ONE example of less dedication can lead to a cut of 50%. We don't punish mistakes, we punish lack of dedication to clients.

We're not perfect and work hard. But try emailing us at 3am and see how fast you will get an answer! And then try elsewhere.

We have the highest standards in the industry in all areas. The highest success as well.
Soon BPC support will post a link with the interview of another finisher with his 4th 10k month in a row...
It's best to get your opinion from people who use BPC for 1year on a daily basis. The all say the same for some reason


Armen, i said we will correct any mistake we make. Seems like our team did no wrong. But you already got an extra free month for no good reason. Just because we're nice.

We treat every client respectfully and when in doubt decide in his favor. Please be so kind and look for your poker education elsewhere.

My Review which I shouldn't write.
BPC is ridiculous.
This Summer I was a slight winner on nl100z (ev 2bb/100). I didn't know how to improve and due to a staking contract couldn't participate in any CFP Programs. Not BPC, Internet's or Smartbacking. All of them offered me CFP. Smartbacking even offered staking. But since I was running well below EV so far and a friend was staking me I didn't want to join anything without him ending well in the green. So I bought some of their products and well. After 1 Month I was crushing NL100z for 5-6bb/100 and am taking now the first NL1k-NL2k shots. I ended december with 16k in profits. (Not counting Crypto into this hah!)
I do not know what they teach in their CFP program, Gordon seems to be a huge *******(which I believe he takes as a compliment), Alan seems to be a very nice guy. Their Website has big flaws from what I've experienced BUT. Their customer support (I think his name is Alex) was awesome and what they teach makes you money if you are willing to listen and learn. 100% Recommend them. Would I change things about them? Sure? Am I super grateful to them and believe they had a huge impact on me? Hell yes!
Thank you Gordon and the rest of BPC for not even knowing who I am.
Have a great day and excuse my bad english.

LOL this is classic

I am a little disappointed in BPC because I have purchased a few of their products and I do think the content is very good but the structure to learn it is confusing. Customer service is actually pretty good and they do respond quickly for the most part so if you stick with things you will eventually figure out their system.

However

I did purchase their Spin N Go Class (and paid a lot more than the current price).

I am actually getting really good results following it and love the content but Pablo the main instructor has left the company so it is really not supported.

I wish to ask Gordon directly to please at least add a thread in the member's area so anyone that purchased it can at least discuss it and figure out questions together.

The fact that you have completely abandoned the product is fine but at least offer a way for us to continue learning from each other.

Also

If ANYONE knows how I can reach Pablo for private coaching I would greatly appreciate his email or skype address.

Cheers

Hey, thx for the good words, being a loyal client and also the criticism/question. There is a Spin&Go forum where hands can be discussed. If there is some technical difficulty, pls let support know. Of course our 6-max/HU forums are more frequented.

For understanding:

* We have CFP programs with several live coachings weekly (often daily). You can imagine they are very expensive to run, but since our coaching work , we're doing fine. Side effect is also lots of free help in the forums even some people outside the program

* We sell stand-alone courses, "bootcamps", that people can watch. They cost less, but the student does what he wants and has no commitments. This also means there is no paid support (hence why you might think it is "abandoned", although the course in itself stands on its own).

* For people who want the bootcamp + support from coaches, but not CFP, we run "Academies". We don't run Spin academy tho ;(

You should, of course, be able to discuss hands and strategy with peers.

You're welcome mr Muschi? . You can grow up, but you never have to mature!

Thx for the nice review.

I can't personally take any credit for this, altho i have been mentioned.
Zoom means that all coaching credit goes to our coach Asimos.

Most credit goes to you bc you keep pushing.

CFP program with Asimos is whatever you got, 100x better. But for now ride the wave, but make sure to stay critical and skeptical. Obviously moving up so fast is not normal.

Should you ever need assistance in the future, you know where to find us.

Starting the new year strong, here are two interviews with our two new coaches.

Traditionally in BPC, we recruit our best students to coach the next generation of students, and Scott and Matic are the latest addition to our all-star team.

Scott just finished his €60,000 Heads-Up program, with three €10k+months in a row, and is enjoying coaching the next generation (which can be you, hint-hint




Find out what was his "aha moment" in going from struggling to crushing the tables here.

Matic is our 6-max student on the way up, finished December with €5k+ and is looking to double that to join our 10k+ club in the next couple of months. He is taking his first steps into coaching some of the other students, and enjoying the experience:



Read about his journey so far here, how he climbed from NL20 to NL250 inside our program.


Have a great 2018 everybody! If you need a boost in your poker skills, here's the fastest and easiest way to do it: Coaching For Profits

So, i am pondering which Rookie course to take: 6max, Zoom or Headsup.
I enjoy every one of them, but for my first course I would / should choose the „easiest“ course, so I would appreciate some advice before my first order

We don't have Heads-Up Starter anymore, only HU Soldier, which has 60k contract. so if you're looking for a smaller commitment, I assume this is out.

That leaves 6-max regular tables or ZOOM. If you're looking for the easiest game format, between those two it's of course 6-max regular tables. It's harder to win on ZOOM tables than on regular tables.

ZOOM has the advantage of being able to play many hands faster (if you don't have that much time for poker, etc). But overall you will achieve a bigger winrate on normal tables. So the easiest would be 6-max normal tables.

Hi, we did not abandon the course, we did stop the CFP Spin & Go. That unfortunately means we do not offer the forum anymore as well, as the forum is primarily the venue for our coaches to give advice to our students. We did keep the forum for quite a while after closing the Spin & Go CFP program, however it was inactive, so for all those factors we have decided to close it and continue focusing on the forums for our CFP programs.

We will add a "coaching companion pack" to the course very soon, with Pablo going through the questions of the students. Our support will contact you via email in the next 1-2 days and give you the companion for free I'm sure many of your questions will be answered in those sessions.

For any other questions you have about the course, or if you would like to connect with other members, you're welcome to join our Facebook Club group (link here) or connect with other members on our general forums.

Me today:

*checks balance* - Yay, finally enough! Count me in!
*opens bookmark* - Yes, still 3 days discount left! I am gonna rock!
*clicks link* hmmm, 6max Rookie sounds right
*goes to ckeckout* -wtf, why is it full Price?
*checks bookmark again*Hm... still discount
*checks website*No discount...
****..
...
...
*sigh*
*checks balance again*
...
...
count me in later -_-

If only the last payment would have come a little earlier

(At least I can agree on some weird bugs on the website, or on leftover bookmarks from the last promotion)

And yes, that really was a cooler for me today

Wrote the support, got help within MINUTES, big fat kudos for that!

Hey!! Sorry I didn't answer before. I saw that you wrote to support and your problem was solved, right?

Hope you got the discount and everything is ok =)

Gordon, I've read a lot of this thread and I'm very interested in signing up for CFP. It sounds like a great program. I do have some questions though.

1. I'm already registered at ACR, but haven't yet made a deposit. Can I still get your rakeback deal?

2. In the past, some of your 6-max winners had $15k and $30k months, but lately there haven't been any reports of 6 max students hitting those kinds of numbers. It also seems that most of your big winners these days are in the HU program. Why is that? Is it because the average 6-max player has gotten much better over the past few years?

3. I live in the US, and I would like to sign up for the HU coaching. Is there enough NL HU action on ACR and Bovada/Ignition for me to get enough play in for the HU coaching?

4. Most of your students appear to be from Europe. How would a person in the US with a 9-5 job take part in the coaching sessions, which I assume are held at times convenient for European players?

I hope to enroll in the HU coaching soon, but if that's not an option, then I'll definitely be signing up for 6-max or MTT as soon as I get some finances in order.

Thanks in advance for your time in replying, Gordon.