1)yes, it is definitely possible, people have done it over and over
2) without a doubt (given that you find the right tables to play). In HU people were having crazy good winrates

"Follow the steps" you said - even when it includes resubscribing to one of the spammiest mail-list. I subscribed and tadam! The good advice got instantly rewarded and in less than a week the IG of the bigboss got disclosed in the mails from BPC) I'm not sure if social media will do more good than bad to you in the long run (depends on the use one makes of it ofc), but I know for sure I'm glad to have the chance to have some snippets of your life even from a distance. Thank you

Why you dont answer the question? I will make it more specific and i will give you no room to dodge my question

1) Someone watching and applying the videos from 6 max masterclass, without any additional coaching can he beat nl1k in non app games without rakeback?
2) Same exact question for hu masterclass

If you dont think they can beat such a limit which one is the highest you think they can beat applying only on these two masterclasses

I'm really sorry, I wish i could say "it works up to NL400 if you study 10 hours per day, are between 18-25 age, and have 3 poker buddies on the same journey".

Please excuse us if this felt like dodging. There is no good answer.

"it has been done by others" is the standard answer we give. Truthful, motivating and ofc encouraging to buy our product.

if millions begged....you do live in your own little world. Millions didnt beg back when your strategies could win. Or you think folding K9s bb against button raise first in like your 6 max tool suggest is still good? Your results are coming from 2015-2017 era which has nothing to do with the era now. Since i have time to waste please write a step by step plan for your hu courses or 6 max courses how to study them and follow the instructions

I will take 50 hours to study them and then study them 2 hours every day. I will put 200 hours playing 6 tables in ggpoker and i will post the results here grinding nl100. I have some time to kill and money is not an issue. Should i study 6 max masterclass or your advanced course? I already have a ton of experience in nl but i will follow the course's guideline

This picture is taken from our Telegram group where people still discuss strategy and post graphs/




You are free to test them yourself. 6-max Masterclass is the one to go for NL100.

i know this person personally and i know other members in your group. Why you dont say after he continued grinding his winrate dropped to 5bb/100? This type of misleading made people dont trust you. Not answering straightforward, nitpicking your answers, you look straightforward guy in your seminars only to answer like a politician in your thread. Your products either work until a certain level or they dont. There are several questions to be asnwered and not ''it has done before'' Yes it has done in 2017-2019 in a completely different scene. It is like you tell me i will pick up a course created in 2010 and i will win because the strategy worked back then. Please try to grind mtts with the strategy of 2010. It is the same with you, you are not honest. You sell the bundle because ''millions dont beg you'' like they ever did. This is the problem with the bundle, you offer one million courses yet you dont say here my 6-max masterclass works until nl100 in TODAY'S games but the truth is you dont know

until what level the following work

-6 max masterclass
-6max advanced Gordon
-6max zoom
-hu masterclass cfp
-plo masterclass

With your experience you should know if they work and until what limit in major sites pokerstars, ggpoker, acr, wpn not in app games where you can get scammed any time. I know exactly what you are doing and you know what you are doing. STOP NITPICKING YOUR ANSWERS, it has be done before is not an answer. YOU KNOW the environment now is completely different

I think we all got your point.

You don't believe any of our products work today. You don't see the value in the offer today and said it worked previously. And you know what, "previously" the same people said that the strategies only worked before that, and before that, it only worked before that. Same thing going on for 10+ years in this thread.

You believe that because we don't give specific answers to overly general questions it means we are "dodging" or being "political".

Sorry you feel that way, of course we'd have been happy to see you as an owner of the super bundle, but you don't like the offer. Fair game. Ce la vie.

I hope you find what you're looking for elsewhere.

P.s.: Support member who quickly searched and posted the 12.8bb winrate to appease anons on the internet will be fired for not following up through chats and realising it's only 5bb over a bigger sample. He will be proactively punished for the time the winrate drops further over a bigger sample.

P.p.s.: To all readers hoping for more popcorn, sorry. Any question in good faith, reach out via email.

Sneaky Gordon. Created that mttdynasty profile. Now he is arguing with himself here. And it turns out his courses are so "bad" - only 5bb on nl100.
Someone could think hey 5bb aint that bad, maybe i Will try this courses.
Nice try.

The graph is from a person who posted a 9k hand sample (lol people falling for that samples in 2023) winning at 12.8bb/100 (1.6k while running over ev) After a week he posted a total 17k hand sample winning total 5bb/100 (1k total) so in the first 9k sample he won 1.6k and in the next 8k sample lost 600$ while running over ev. I bet you this guy either will not post anymore because he will keep losing or he will be winning 1bb/100. The hands are from ontario canada NOT major site where the games are significantly easier and NOT everyone has access because it is a closed pool for ontario residents. This dude talk the professional talk and he posts a 9k hand sample (while he saw the total 16k sample) and he touting ''professional poker company''

His no bs course doesnt even divide aggressors when they play ip or oop from what i got told. How ****ing ridiculous this is? I am curious gordon, if you had a brother and you wanted him to make 100k in 12months in 2023 grinding 200 hours and studying 50, which course would you recommend playing in pokerstars without getting additional coaching? Please answer me this question

@2p2 mods, feel free to lock the thread

Dear community, students, fans, supporters and especially haters... this will be the last post.

TLDR:
BPC started a long time ago and in June 2024 it will retire. We will stop selling courses in the next month, but everybody keeps access for roughly a year. More info on the website on details, there will be a "goodbye" offer.

I thought i could just keep things running and keep getting "free money" from sales, even if smaller etc, but i can't. Well, for like the last 8 years this was sort of the case. My role was more that of a president, overviewing, making sure things are done properly etc, giving a few bonus coachings as reward for the best students... But even that takes time and more importantly mental energy, slight form of OCD .
This is the reason why sales will stop, but the website being open and fully functional. So yes, you wont be able to buy in around a month, even if you ASK ))

Profits obviously declined over the last years, that's always the primary driver. I mentioned this many times, but other lines of business already back in the days making magnitudes more meant that BPC was more of a baby than anything else. I still learned a lot on the way.

For those asking "why profits decline". (tldr: more training sites, streamers & YT coaches, poker less profitable, thus cfp not a viable biz anymore, ce la vie, not investing my own time into industry)

I tried selling a year ago with decent sales numbers etc. Had a very good talk with a known owner of a big site. But i totally understood his reasoning for not even be willing to pay close to a reasonable price (I would have sold for 2 years profits).

We created timeless content that still works today. Students and former coaches said this and I keep getting the msgs and graphs. It's not about raising this hand or that hand on the Button (you will learn over time how to construct ranges simply by trial and error. Starting charts do not matter at all, it's a starting point). Learning how to adapt is perhaps THE most important skill in poker and life. If you can do that, you can do everything.

People paid your overpriced courses for 200$ and you give them access for 1 year? How is this not a straight up scam?

You're the best Gordon. A good person, a good mentor with a functioning brain. I am glad to hear that you not only made some money with BPC but that you also developped and improved important skills in the process.

I hope that our paths will cross again, somewhere, somehow. Our best bet is probably if you were to play the intellectual game Mafia sometime in the future, in StP, Moscow, Kiev, for example, since it's a game with which you would connect right away, if you haven't played yet. (If it were to happen, message me here or on IG - Tochno_Mafia_Tashkent)

All good things come to an end like Nelly Furtado sings, but this one ends on a positive note for me. I am now able to work like crazy while maintaining a balance in my life, mainly thanks to BPC. I've also helped close friends with ambition related issues.

Thanks a zillion to you and to your team. All the best <3

They let you download all courses to your pc, so even if those courses are looking bad to some people, bestpokercoaching is not scamming at this part.

Thanks Zvetojas. People with limited IQ and vocabulary throw around the word "scam" very easily. It's apparently a "scam" to give people all materials for pennies on the dollar (proven as people had 100k contracts on a fraction of the materials... to be fair, also personal coaching...but besides the point).

And then announce that in rougly a year you'll close the website (instead of rugpulling like majority) while stopping sales instead of taking free money during that time. In addition to that let people download 80%+ of these materials so they can keep them forever even after that year. SCAM

Trump derangement syndrome became a thing, but we all observed this same phenomenon years here in this thread before trump was even a thing .

Service announcement in next post.

BPC Support Message, Service announcement, also sent out via email:

* Today at 18:00 CET sales on the website are stopped. We will remove the ecommerce function as well as any sign-up function despite August being our record month this year. The goodbye sale was a real success and I'm very happy to have a great last month. Should have done "goodbye's" every day

* Active users can use the site just like before. Nothing changed. Until June 2024 video hosting will work and all is paid for in advance. You just won't be able to buy anything on our website, but otherwise fully functional.

* Our email autoresponder and newsletter will expire on September 17th. You can always unsubscribe with one-click (as you could before). Any email after September 20th (in case the service provider is slow etc) can be considered phishing. BPC has never asked for any account details in our history.

* 2p2 is not responsive in locking this thread despite our efforts to contact them. If you want to help, please click on the "report this post" button so moderators/owners may pay attention and lock this thread. It is their site of course, but we wish to leave as good citizens. We always took care of the thread, we no longer can.

* Alex, long time member of the BPC team who also wrote most posts here from this account, will still offer his VIP services to students. However, it will be under his own umbrella and there is no association with BPC or any type of involvement. His contact details will be left on the BPC website. He will also send his contacts via email (but before September 17th).

Thx @Escroc, hope that will happen!

Best wishes and thanks again for your support and this amazing journey we have done together!

- Gordon

gto is a tiny branch of how to win poker. Using a solver to win at poker is not going to work. It will give a understanding of how poker works to have an idea of what to do with different parts of your ranges. I know Gordon can win based on how he looks at poker. In poker you have to beat variance and you have to do a massive amount of volume to beat it. Back in the day it was very popular. Nano, leatherass, and other people that would grind lots of hands for many hrs making millions. These days in 2023 poker players online are pretty lazy. They focus to much on trying to beat other players. Variance is going to destroy your results more then the other players on the table. I showed a gto player a few weeks ago. I am retired now I don't play anymore. I told him I can easily come back and crush the games with no issues and I would leave with a profit after 15k hands. If I didn't get over 1bb/100 he won the bet. It took me 2 days to put in those 15k hands and I won almost 45 buyins. These gto players kept using that time bank over and over again vs me never knowing what I had or what I was doing. I know what they are doing cause I know their strategy. It is like chess I am already 4 steps ahead. He is watching and not understanding what is going on.

I would do a video of full explanation of how to actually win at poker but my students would extremely upset cause they paid me a lot of money. I will just tell you poker is a game of psychology and Gordon understands the psychological part of it extremely well. His 25nl and 50nl students I have watched on twitch. They are not doing what he says to do and it is why they are playing that low. They are doing the opposite and are hard headed when I given them feedback on how to play a hand. I try to help but there is no point. They have to do it their way. I will give one example. His student playing 25nl cb multi way in a limped pot with bp on a very very wet board. I said why are you cb bp on that wet board? He said cause Gordon teaches that. I said no he doesn't he kept arguing he does. I said show me where he says that. And he of course couldn't and continued doing it. He really has no business playing poker period. IT was A5 on 589ss board and he had no draw. THe guy cb multi way in limped pot doing that. That is not Gordons fault the dude is clueless.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...91/index4.html same dude who couldnt beat 10nl? you funny

Your talking about a bankroll challenge I did in prop bet like 4 years ago? What a clown. What I start with 100 bucks at micros got up over 2100 dollars? Is that the challenge you said I could not beat? Globals software was messed up not paying me the money I had won so I quit playing the challenge. I done a lot of challenges over the years because I told people nobody makes money like me at online poker period. I didn't fail globals software did. I had a lot of money taken from on the site from tables freezing and they only paid me back a small portion of it. The tables don't freeze anymore but they did back then and we would lose our bankrolls on what we had on the tables. How am I supposed to do a challenge with that kind of an issue? Sometimes they paid back sometimes they didn't. Go look it up several players lost big money. Sterlingkolde I think lost about 4k on it before he quit playing. Of course I would of easily done it. You guys always have these lame excuses trying to tell me well I play midstakes its EASIER cause I can bluff people at those limits. Then I crush the limits they play at and they run out of excuses and realize using a solver doesn't work. Then they paid me to coach them. Every single one of them are the BIGGEST winners at the stakes they play. Part of that comes from what Gordon teaches. I don't coach anymore. I have long list of people begging me to train them. Have fun with your solvers. Data mine any top player in poker and I guarantee they will hardly do anything a solver would do. If you guys think Gordon can't win at poker the way he thinks about it I know all of you are break even losing players. You guys coming on here disrespecting him is just straight blasphemy. I guarantee you would not want to play against him on poker table period.

I am reading your comments. 99% of them are putting people down to make you feel better about yourself. A lot of that hate comes from players that are losing and take that hate out on other people. 1% is you asking people to for advice on how to win at PLO. But you want to hate on people if its not about you? You are probably a losing or break even playing at nlh giving up at it and transferring to plo asking for a solver to help you win correct? Ya you need monker to understand basics but its not going to make you a winning player. There is no going back to holdem after playing plo for a few years. Holdem will be to boring for you. It will take you a few years to realize that a solver wont make you a winning player. It just gives you a foundation of what to do with your ranges that everyone else on the table already knows with online poker. Buckle up Dorthy you are going to have a rough ride. And if you can deal with 40 to 50 buyin downswings without losing your sanity then you might make it. But I can tell by your comments you are a weak person and you will fail at PLO. Your mentally not prepared it. There is a lot more to poker then looking at solver. I will tell you your path already. You will lose your bankroll and do 9 to 5 within a few years because you think a solver is holy grail of poker. A solver is a tiny branch on a tree to be a successful poker player.

Post reported.

Haters and non-haters, please report the post Gordon last posted with a note like "please close the thread" , thank you.

C'est la vie.*

Hey I have purchased a number of bpc products over the years but have not been active until last few days. I see the site is closing? Will we loose access to everything we paid for ? Or will we be able to download what we purchased? I’m a bit upset if we are not going to be able to keep the courses we paid for. Any info would be great.

It's literally written on the site