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01-29-2013 , 01:00 PM
It appears like the Hotter 44 was intended to be in the package but was accidentally omitted. That's some decent run good.
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01-29-2013 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Protential

If i thought he was honestly trying to help the people involved, and wasn't just trolling/attacking me I would have showed him respect.

he did no such thing

There is a difference in saying soemthing to help fix a situation, and saying something to try to sabotage some1 and try to cost them up to 15k.

you mean your backers right?

He had no business posting in this thread and was VERY VERY VERY obviously in the wrong when he did so. (he made no case, and was just trying to cause drama)

he made a fine case, and he sells and buys in the mp all the time, how does a respected, experienced member of the community/mp not have the right to post in this thread?

I will never treat a piece of **** like him with any ounce of respect. I will also always call them out on their ****.

you've made that clear


The people on 2+2 who dislike me do so because i speak my mind, and i defend myself, and I don't like taking **** from anyone ever. So i react badly to trolling, and people like seeing reactions.

obviously. I'm sure thats the exact same reason why people dislike you irl

If you actually spoke to people who knew me well, you'd see that people respect me and trust in my judgement, even though I may be a emotional douche at times. :P

well said

Also my comment about his intelligence was only after he was obviously trolling, attempting to cost me money, and then personally attacked me. I defended myself and attacked him in the same manner he attacked me.

not true at all, as I've already shown

I have done absolutely nothing wrong in this thread, and have only defended myself as needed. No more, no less.

well you forgot to include the hotter 44 in the list.. or you meant to exclude it and then paid out investors for the score. That was wrong. Not to mention just above

He had no business posting in here, if he was in any manner financially impacted, I would have treated him with the same respect i showed the rest of the people in this thread.

It was so great to see you treating everyone you were hoping to get money back from with respect. Very noble of you.

Nice to see that you like to see people steal from other members of the community. shows the amount of ethics you hold yourself and others to.
and the last comment well


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01-29-2013 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BakinC00kies
How is that even a thing? How can you even consider reading that into my post?
Then why were you encouraging people to steal from me?

That is pretty questionable ethics if you ask me.

I may not like you, but I at least would never encourage someone to steal from you.
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01-29-2013 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bbbbb33
I do plenty of business in the MP so I have every right to post here.


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and yet you had no financial commitment in this thread, implied that the money shouldn't be sent back, and yet did not make any kind of case to do so.

You half assedly attacked me with a troll, in a poor attempt to cost me and my backers money. I called you out on it, and you flipped on me.

As you have in the past without provocation.
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01-29-2013 , 01:07 PM
This thread has been complete, the mistakes have been fixed. Now that it is going off topic, i'll ave it closed so it stops cluttering the MP.

Thank you to those who invested in me and paid me back.
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01-29-2013 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Protential
and yet you had no financial commitment in this thread, implied that the money shouldn't be sent back, and yet did not make any kind of case to do so.

You half assedly attacked me with a troll, in a poor attempt to cost me and my backers money. I called you out on it, and you flipped on me.

As you have in the past without provocation.
you call people ******s in the chatbox, then cry like the bitch you are about being called a ***.

my step mother happens to be black so there is your ****ing provacation you dumb dick idiot.

and im a member of the MP, i can post whatever the **** I want.

also: I know your backers (I think), I'm friendly with one of them and would never try to cost him money, you are beyond dellusional
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01-29-2013 , 01:10 PM
It's almost impressive how unintelligent you are prot
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01-29-2013 , 01:11 PM
I said that because some of your posts towards established posters were so out of line, aggressive and ridiculous that it'd bring me great enjoyment see you pay for being such an idiot.

If I said (hypothetically) that I hoped that you get hit by a bus then it would purely be because I really, really dislike you and not because I support violence or anything like it. But keep it in mind, that's just hypothetical.


Disclaimer: I don't wish physical harm upon anyone in this thread, neither do I have questionable ethics or would like to see "people steal from the community"
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01-29-2013 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Protential
and yet you had no financial commitment in this thread [...]
Neither did I, but when I sacrificed precious minutes of my life to help you I was more than welcome to.

Since bbbb3 and I had no financial commitment in this thread, you should hate us both from the moment we posted. How come that's not the case?
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01-29-2013 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BakinC00kies
I said that because some of your posts towards established posters were so out of line, aggressive and ridiculous that it'd bring me great enjoyment see you pay for being such an idiot.

If I said (hypothetically) that I hoped that you get hit by a bus then it would purely be because I really, really dislike you and not because I support violence or anything like it. But keep it in mind, that's just hypothetical.


Disclaimer: I don't wish physical harm upon anyone in this thread, neither do I have questionable ethics or would like to see "people steal from the community"
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I regret every second I put towards making a post to help your case and really hope you get rolled by every investor!
This is not hypothetical. Esepcially when i am still owed funds...
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01-29-2013 , 01:16 PM
why does Protential get so much hate?
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01-29-2013 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard88
why does Protential get so much hate?
maybe, just maybe, cause he deserves it.

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01-29-2013 , 01:23 PM
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This is not hypothetical. Esepcially when i am still owed funds...
And why are you still being owed funds?

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It's almost impressive how unintelligent you are prot
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01-29-2013 , 01:24 PM
Pretty amazing people will still buy action from Protential after seeing how he handles himself on this forum.
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01-29-2013 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard88
why does Protential get so much hate?
Depends on who you ask, some might say its because he calls people ****** at the drop of a hat but will instantly play the victim whenever he gets slurred(or even if he just thinks thats what it is), some might say its cause he's a pretentious douchebag with the IQ of a cats scratching post, some might say because he is a lying sack of **** who can't even discern his delusions from reality...


but if you ask him its just because he sucks *****
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01-29-2013 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard88
why does Protential get so much hate?
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...56&postcount=1

continuously using racial slurs, calling people ******s etc. and just being flat out dumb in every aspect of this community.

edit: admittedly i don't bring much to the table in the community, but I am not delusional about this fact.
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01-29-2013 , 02:13 PM
Ryan in the last 2 weeks of your complete Sun pkgs there is no mention in the rail threads about the 44t which investors had action on. No bust hands for the 44t but instead info + bust hands for the hotter 44. This makes it pretty clear what the intention was. Ofc if u had cashed the 44t either of the last 2 weeks investors of the pkg would've got their share right? In the more likely scenario it simply goes unnoticed.
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01-29-2013 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dadonk612
Ryan in the last 2 weeks of your complete Sun pkgs there is no mention in the rail threads about the 44t which investors had action on. No bust hands for the 44t but instead info + bust hands for the hotter 44. This makes it pretty clear what the intention was. Ofc if u had cashed the 44t either of the last 2 weeks investors of the pkg would've got their share right? In the more likely scenario it simply goes unnoticed.
I played the 44 15k each week for the package. it is a tourney that i play during peak hours and thus pretty easy to miss it when i bust it.

I very specifically stated that the 44 15k was a part of the package, and I played it, and busted it each week. (875th this last sunday) Because I missed it on the rail dosn't mean i didn't play it, i missed multiple mtts/games each week, as to be expected when playing a lot of tables and trying to update a rail.

Yes the hotter 44 is a tourney I thought I had a part of the package. But it very clearly wasn't and very clearly no investor paid for it.

Due to the confusion on this my backer and I felt that a partial compensation of 30% of the score was fair. I'm sorry about missing info in the rail and misleading in it. Was not my intention to do so.
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01-29-2013 , 02:34 PM
The compromise is fair and I appreciate you and your backer's offer. The only thing I wonder is if it would've taken someone to mention to you that the 44t was part of the pkg for investors to receive their share of a cash. Anyways, congrats on your score! As u know from past PM's I can't ship back on Stars currently but I will be swapping PayPal with someone to send u the 107.xx.
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01-29-2013 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Dadonk612
The compromise is fair and I appreciate you and your backer's offer. The only thing I wonder is if it would've taken someone to mention to you that the 44t was part of the pkg for investors to receive their share of a cash. Anyways, congrats on your score! As u know from past PM's I can't ship back on Stars currently but I will be swapping PayPal with someone to send u the 107.xx.
I had thought it was, because it is a somewhat high variance mtt, and thus something i might have sold for. I was also coming off of a 14 hour session and tbh was jsut excited to have done well for the package. Honestly if someone hadn't pointed it out, i never would have noticed that it wasn't part fo the package, nearly costing myself/my backer 8k+. >.<
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01-29-2013 , 02:55 PM
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I had thought it was, because it is a somewhat high variance mtt, and thus something i might have sold for. I was also coming off of a 14 hour session and tbh was jsut excited to have done well for the package. Honestly if someone hadn't pointed it out, i never would have noticed that it wasn't part fo the package, nearly costing myself/my backer 8k+. >.<

I was talking about a hypothetical score in the 44t the last 2 weeks it was apart of the pkg but seemingly overlooked in the rail. Had u cashed this 44t would it have taken someone bringing it up to u for investors to receive the cash? We'll just have to take your word for it that you knew it belonged to the pkg. because there is no proof otherwise. That is all......will post when funds have been sent.
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01-29-2013 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by toldmeshewas18
aside from some back back and forth between dadonk and prot, this mistake was handled quite well, imo.

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Originally Posted by Dadonk612
Ryan how many pkgs is it ok to run charging for the hotter 44 b4 it becomes not ok? I mean say u ran 20 pkgs busting hotter 44 each time and it went unnoticed then u bink and it's noticed then obv backers get the score right? Ok, this was only a cpl weeks while it goes unnoticed but u c my point I hope.
the more time prot makes the mistake the more it costs *him*. so yea, more time seems to only make him more likely to fight for his score.

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So whenever somebody quotes something you said in the OP that works your way he deserves lots of " ^.^" but once something that might not be good for you is being (truthfully) quoted the poster is a "worthless troll", "such a dick", "as intelligent as a pine cone".

THAT's the reason why everybody hates you. Not because of your sexual orientation, not because of the way you look; They do because at times you're just an absolute ****.
I regret every second I put towards making a post to help your case and really hope you get rolled by every investor!
bolded: The issue, that prot fails to make clear, usually, isn't that he thinks people dislike him because of his sexual orientation (at least the 4-5 times i've witnessed these arguments), it's that they dislike him and then use homophobic slurs to troll him (or they're just part of the trolls vocabulary). The claim by prot (which i agree with) is that this in unacceptable and if he happened to be black and disliked and people chose to call him a ni**er (not meaing it racially, just using it as a negative word) would be treated way different. This gets further muddied because, as has been pointed out (and should be, obv), prot is guilty of the same thing! The difference ( a huge distinction, imo) is that prot does it in an emotional burst and apologizes. he may make excuses but doesn't pretend it's okay. People are emotional, people have racial/homophobic slurs in their vocabulary (I know I do). Then people learn how insensitve public use of these terms are and try not to use them anymore! Then there's other people who fundamentally disagree that a word should be taboo, know they don't mean anything racial/homophobic with it and think people are overreacting. a viewpoint that has merit but, imo, is ultimately ignorant. then there's actual closeted racists/bigots/misogynists (either aware of it or subconsiously) that are okay with using these words because they kinda believe the slurs are warranted or w/e such people think. :P so yea, that was a ramble and i don't know if I'm being clear!

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why does Protential get so much hate?
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Originally Posted by bbbbb33
maybe, just maybe, cause he deserves it.
i mean yea, he prob does deserve a lot of hate, prob not as much as he gets, but a lot. I happen to like the guy but he's super delusional to think there aren't plenty of reasons to dislike him. I also think he's prob quite intelligent, just not the best with the whole logic/critical thinking thing! :P

/rant sorry gg kthx

oh and, 4k compensation was unnecessary/excessive, no MU on a future package or a tiny freeroll would prob be fair. good on investors for returning funds!
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01-29-2013 , 03:34 PM
Look you're an absolute dolt. For forgetting firstly, and secondly offering this 4k.

But to call Tim's (bakinc00kies) ethics into question, when he came into this thread and sided with you even though he thinks you're a complete ****, is way out of line.

Try running better though... Gets dropped in infinite make up and then you just bink this outside the package completely by accident.
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01-29-2013 , 03:48 PM
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Look you're an absolute dolt. For forgetting firstly, and secondly offering this 4k.

But to call Tim's (bakinc00kies) ethics into question, when he came into this thread and sided with you even though he thinks you're a complete ****, is way out of line.

Try running better though... Gets dropped in infinite make up and then you just bink this outside the package completely by accident.
COME ON!! It's F*ucking absurd how prot hate clouds a chunk of mttc's judgement. Yea, prot was a bit over dramatic with his (one line) comment on cookies but it wasn't completely without merit. He did say in the thread he hopes investors don't pay because prot 'started' (I don't know history but if he has a history of trolling prot, his intentions should be questioned, at least) a flame war with someone. But yea, seemed obvious cookies was bein facetious. WHATEVER
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01-29-2013 , 05:21 PM
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