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01-28-2013 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTyman9
It should be obvious that you did not have a piece of it. The mistake happened but in retrospect it is very clear that you do not deserve any of the money. If you would like to profit from an innocent mistake then go ahead and only send back the adjusted amount. I personally wouldn't feel right about it and would send back the whole amount but if they want to be nice and give you some free money and you want to take it then go ahead. But stop trying to act like you shouldn't have to send back anything.

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Will arrange for someone to ship the compromise amount to you on Stars. It's a good thing I don't want to sell action here and only buy pieces because I've shown to have a terrible moral compass.....lol
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01-28-2013 , 09:49 PM
sent back 107.13 1% stake
i stayed up late to rail and all :-(
keep me in mind for next week :-)
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01-28-2013 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dadonk612
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Will arrange for someone to ship the compromise amount to you on Stars. It's a good thing I don't want to sell action here and only buy pieces because I've shown to have a terrible moral compass.....lol
tbh i think you taking the compromise is perfectly ethical and fine.

I made a mistake and because of that confused investors. While in this instance my mistake shouldn't have cost me money, and i should be paid back in full, I'm willing to make a compromise if need be to make up for the mistake I made.

I do not feel as though it is ethically required of me, but i also feel that some1 taking me up on it isn't ethically wrong.

Was an honest mistake, and because of it I am paying out of pocket some for it.

I'll do my best to not have it happen again. But, as always, and in the future, when I **** up I don't mind admitting to it, and doing what i need to to fix it.
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01-28-2013 , 10:07 PM
will send 1470 back asap
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01-28-2013 , 10:33 PM
And no one will ever take a dadonk stake again.

gg Ryan keep smashing.
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01-28-2013 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CFalls
And no one will ever take a dadonk stake again.

gg Ryan keep smashing.
ty.

Hopefully next sunday when i bink something I wont **** it up :P
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01-28-2013 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CFalls
And no one will ever take a dadonk stake again.

gg Ryan keep smashing.
Lol...... Ya ppl will be turning my investments down left and right I'm sure.
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01-28-2013 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dadonk612
It's a good thing I don't want to sell action here and only buy pieces because I've shown to have a terrible moral compass.....lol
More like you've shown to have intellect rivaled only by garden tools.
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01-28-2013 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CBorders
More like you've shown to have intellect rivaled only by garden tools.
It was confusing so maybe I didn't understand everything at first.
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01-28-2013 , 11:25 PM
IMO most people (me included, to a degree) empathize with your confusion but your demeanor throughout this thread would lead people to believe you're just not that bright about some things.

glgl
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01-28-2013 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Protential
The title of the thread, is just that a title. I specifically state in the thread that it wasn't for every game that i was playing, and that there were tcoop events i didn't have as a part of the roll as well as other games near the end of the session. (hotter 44 was the very last game i registered for yesterday)

I realize you are a worthless troll, but this is not the place to do it.
ALLL I WAS DOING WAS STATING THE FACTS THAT YOU PUT OUT in the MOTHER ****ING OP. I SAID NOTHING ABOUT YOU!

You are so delusional its mind boggling. And don't even try to play the sexuality card like in the January thread. I feel bad that homosexuals in poker who may not be out of the closet have you to represent them.
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01-29-2013 , 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Dadonk612
Srry but go back to being irrelevant again.........I was simply pointing out how one could think based on the content of his Complete Sun pkg. that they had a piece of all of Protential's Sun action. Srry how stupid of me.
You're free to think what you like.

BUT, it's is pretty obvious that what happened here was a simple mistake that anyone could make.

It sucks that the one MTT game that Ryan shipped was one that is not part of the package. In a moment of haste he thought it was included.

It wasn't, so ship back all $$$ that he sent you because of it.

Sending back the "compromise" figure

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01-29-2013 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by bbbbb33
ALLL I WAS DOING WAS STATING THE FACTS THAT YOU PUT OUT in the MOTHER ****ING OP. I SAID NOTHING ABOUT YOU!

You are so delusional its mind boggling. And don't even try to play the sexuality card like in the January thread. I feel bad that homosexuals in poker who may not be out of the closet have you to represent them.
No wonder you are such a dick. You are about as intelligent as a pine cone.

Don't post in threads that you have no business in, well at least if you are going to do so, don't be a ****ing moron.

thanks.
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01-29-2013 , 11:17 AM
Honest mistake it sounds...anyone still have values/morals these days?

I was curious on the pine cone so had to google it though lol

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+intelligent+is+a+pine+cone%3F
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01-29-2013 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by JimyJamonas
Sent back $1471.32 for my 10%. The offer above is very nice from u/ur backers but imo kind of taking it too far - an honest mistake was made (seems like your leak was being too excited to have done well for ur buyers, which cant be a bad trait) and I wouldn't feel right having u pay me $400 for making that mistake.

Hopefully this doesn't cause too much drama as on the one hand I could see why people would be upset (it sucks to think u won and realise u didnt), but on the other hand, obviously mistakes happen and its pretty clear from the original post that the hot 44 wasn't included.

I only recently started buying shares on a semi-regular basis, so I'm curious what other peoples thoughts are too. Anyway, sent back the full amount, and still reserve me 10% for next week
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Originally Posted by Protential
I'm sending the following pm to all investors.

Hotter 44 Not Part Of Package: Payouts Were Wrong


It has come to my attention that in the sunday packageI posted for 1/27/2013, in which you invested x% in, the final tournament I played and cashed for 14.7k in, was not part of the package.

Below are the turbos listed as a part of the package, and the tournaments you bought pieces of:

Hots/turbos:
Hotter 16
25$ Hyper 15k (415pm EST)
27$ TKO's (5 of these = 135$)
Hotter 33$
44$ 15k Turbo
54$ TKO
5r 2x turbo 20k (15bullets = 65.5$, 830am EST)
55$ 6max turbo (530pm EST)
Hotter 55$
Hotter 75$
8r 2x turbo (15 bullets = $120.8)
55t 2x chance (105$, 115pm EST)
Stars 109$ 30k Turbo (515pm EST)
Stars 109$ 17.5k Turbo (8am EST)

As you can see in the above list, the tournament "The Hotter 44" was not listed, and was not paid for by investors.

Thus I am in a quandry. Honestly I had assumed at the time that I had it listed, which is why I posted in the rail thread for it. However if I had bricked it, it wouldn't have counted against the package in any manner as no investor paid for their % of it.

It was an honest mistake to assume the tournament was included, however, as it never was, the payouts I sent out to investors were incorrect.
The proper payouts are as follows: 1637.84 + 73.58 + 445.74 = 2157.16

1% = 21.57 = I overpaid 147.31
5% = 107.85 = I overpaid 735.66
10% = 215.70 = I overpaid 1471.32

Because I mistakenly included the HOT 44 in the payout list, when it shouldn't have been, and given my backer's fairness regarding this issue (they were sure the tournament was 100% played under my regular stake), we are willing to offer a compensation to my investors by adding $4,000 to this package. Note: that this money will be 100% absorbed by my backers.

Note: We'd also greatly appreciate it if the full amount was paid back, we are leaving it to your discretion.


Thus payouts will be:
1% = 61.57 = You owe me 107.13 (You profited 13$)
5% = 307.85 = you owe me 535.66 (you profited 65$)
10% = 615.70 = you owe me 1071.32 (you profited 149$)

If you believe this is a fair compromise, or believe something else should be done, please let me know.

Sorry about the hassle and the screw up.

Thank you for understanding.

Sincerely, Ryan "Protential" Laplante.
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Originally Posted by hu4rllz
sent back 735.66$ for my 5% ..... its an honest mistake and can happen to anyone... also paying extra 4k for it is maybe taking it too far imho ....
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Originally Posted by milldollbaby
Sent back. Gg
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Originally Posted by LeonP
paid back in full... not going to take money for what was obv confusion lol pretty epic doltiness on your part though :O) gg

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Originally Posted by curehead
sent back 107.13 1% stake
i stayed up late to rail and all :-(
keep me in mind for next week :-)
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Originally Posted by superfish5
will send 1470 back asap
It is really great to see integrity in the marketplace. I have seen a lot of questionable ethics in the marketplace, and it is nice to see people with integrity.
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Originally Posted by Dadonk612
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Will arrange for someone to ship the compromise amount to you on Stars. It's a good thing I don't want to sell action here and only buy pieces because I've shown to have a terrible moral compass.....lol
It is sad that some people are trying to nickel and dime someone on a mistake.
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Originally Posted by CBorders
More like you've shown to have intellect rivaled only by garden tools.
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01-29-2013 , 11:49 AM
+1, so nice to see.

Everyone who bought this sunday package and paid back in full will have option to buy a package from me at no mark-up.

milldoll, jimmy, dirty.brasil, superfish5 (i think), hu4rllz, curehead, will all be buying next sunday at no MU. (the others can buy next sunday, or any other sunday they desire to at no MU from me for one time)
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01-29-2013 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Protential
No wonder you are such a dick. You are about as intelligent as a pine cone.

Don't post in threads that you have no business in, well at least if you are going to do so, don't be a ****ing moron.

thanks.

So whenever somebody quotes something you said in the OP that works your way he deserves lots of " ^.^" but once something that might not be good for you is being (truthfully) quoted the poster is a "worthless troll", "such a dick", "as intelligent as a pine cone".

THAT's the reason why everybody hates you. Not because of your sexual orientation, not because of the way you look; They do because at times you're just an absolute ****.
I regret every second I put towards making a post to help your case and really hope you get rolled by every investor!
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01-29-2013 , 12:25 PM
Others also sent back the compromise amount but ofc it will be made to seem like I'm the only one "nickel and diming" right? I also agreed to that compromise after seeing the situation for what it is. Ryan I appreciate you and your backer's offer. Congrats on the score and I'm sorry it had to be somewhat clouded by this.
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01-29-2013 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BakinC00kies
So whenever somebody quotes something you said in the OP that works your way he deserves lots of " ^.^" but once something that might not be good for you is being (truthfully) quoted the poster is a "worthless troll", "such a dick", "as intelligent as a pine cone".

THAT's the reason why everybody hates you. Not because of your sexual orientation, not because of the way you look; They do because at times you're just an absolute ****.
I regret every second I put towards making a post to help your case and really hope you get rolled by every investor!
you have no idea as to why i made the comment i did at him. So before you flip on me, actually look back at his posting history and think about as to why he came into this thread and tried to cost me money intentionally.

If i thought he was honestly trying to help the people involved, and wasn't just trolling/attacking me I would have showed him respect.

There is a difference in saying soemthing to help fix a situation, and saying something to try to sabotage some1 and try to cost them up to 15k.

He had no business posting in this thread and was VERY VERY VERY obviously in the wrong when he did so. (he made no case, and was just trying to cause drama)

I will never treat a piece of **** like him with any ounce of respect. I will also always call them out on their ****.

The people on 2+2 who dislike me do so because i speak my mind, and i defend myself, and I don't like taking **** from anyone ever. So i react badly to trolling, and people like seeing reactions.

If you actually spoke to people who knew me well, you'd see that people respect me and trust in my judgement, even though I may be a emotional douche at times. :P

Also my comment about his intelligence was only after he was obviously trolling, attempting to cost me money, and then personally attacked me. I defended myself and attacked him in the same manner he attacked me.

I have done absolutely nothing wrong in this thread, and have only defended myself as needed. No more, no less.

He had no business posting in here, if he was in any manner financially impacted, I would have treated him with the same respect i showed the rest of the people in this thread.

Nice to see that you like to see people steal from other members of the community. shows the amount of ethics you hold yourself and others to.
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01-29-2013 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Protential
No wonder you are such a dick. You are about as intelligent as a pine cone.

Don't post in threads that you have no business in, well at least if you are going to do so, don't be a ****ing moron.

thanks.


So you didnt even know what you sold action to, SENT OUT MONEY without checking, then have the audacity to talk about someone elses intelligence? That's a riot
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01-29-2013 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Protential
The people on 2+2 who dislike me do so because i speak my mind, and i defend myself, and I don't like taking **** from anyone ever. So i react badly to trolling, and people like seeing reactions.

LOL at you thinking thats why we dislike you
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01-29-2013 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bbbbb33
I agree with this obviously, one tiny problem is the title of the thread though.

and in the OP where he says 'This is my complete Sunday action'
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Originally Posted by Protential
The title of the thread, is just that a title. I specifically state in the thread that it wasn't for every game that i was playing, and that there were tcoop events i didn't have as a part of the roll as well as other games near the end of the session. (hotter 44 was the very last game i registered for yesterday)

I realize you are a worthless troll, but this is not the place to do it.
so here is his first post in this thread and then your reaction to it. Who attacked who first?
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01-29-2013 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ShowUthExit
so here is his first post in this thread and then your reaction to it. Who attacked who first?
he had no business posting in the thread and only posted in an attempt to cost me money.

That is both trolling, and a personal attack.

I called him out on being a troll.

He then insulted me and attacked me personally again.

edit: also the worthless troll comment was more aimed at the many many other things he has said to me personally and on this thread. (on my sexuality and other things)
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01-29-2013 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Protential
Nice to see that you like to see people steal from other members of the community. shows the amount of ethics you hold yourself and others to.
How is that even a thing? How can you even consider reading that into my post?
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01-29-2013 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Protential
he had no business posting in the thread and only posted in an attempt to cost me money.

That is both trolling, and a personal attack.

I called him out on being a troll.

He then insulted me and attacked me personally again.
I do plenty of business in the MP so I have every right to post here.


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having all parts or elements; lacking nothing; whole; entire; full: a complete set of Mark Twain's writings.

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