Sending $280 on FT for 4% (from StrokeSearch) gl gl.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you are mistaken in thinking there is any difference in fair makeup between buying action in 1 tournament compared to 25 tournaments. If anything you should charge at a lower markup because of the larger investment people are making and the fact that they are forced to buy all 25 rather than having the opportunity to buy %'s of the few they think are best value.

...i didnt wanna say it...


edit. just wanted to say i am not commenting on the overall value of this package, just wanted to echo the same thoughts as timex

Good point. I still think this is good value and positive EV for investors. I'll check back tonight. Posting from phone at game.

49%!

Jimmus: 4% ($280)

DarkMagus: 6% ($420)

HoopAddict: 5% ($350)

ksuno1stunner: 5% ($350)

clunged: 5% ($350)

soupy87: 4% ($28)

Billy Bibbit: 5% ($350)

gobbo: 5% ($350)

Chad Eveslage: 5% ($350)

psutennis11: 5% ($350)

MSauce: 4% ($280)

HITTHEPANDA: 5% ($350)

58%

5%

Are you accepting UB$? If, PM me your first name. I'm not sure how much I want yet.

4% sent from heyimdro on ftp.

I'm most likely not going to play the UB 215 so I cannot accept UB money. Sorry.

Jimmus: 4% ($280)

DarkMagus: 6% ($420)

HoopAddict: 5% ($350)

ksuno1stunner: 5% ($350)

clunged: 5% ($350)

soupy87: 4% ($28)

Billy Bibbit: 5% ($350)

gobbo: 5% ($350)

Chad Eveslage: 5% ($350)

psutennis11: 5% ($350)

MSauce: 4% ($280)

HITTHEPANDA: 5% ($350)

heyimdro: 4% ($280)

62% Sold. 9% left.

This is basically scamming, sad to see.

Thanks for the comment bro.

lock up 9% for me

Jimmus: 4% ($280)

DarkMagus: 6% ($420)

HoopAddict: 5% ($350)

ksuno1stunner: 5% ($350)

clunged: 5% ($350)

soupy87: 4% ($28)

Billy Bibbit: 5% ($350)

gobbo: 5% ($350)

Chad Eveslage: 5% ($350)

psutennis11: 5% ($350)

MSauce: 4% ($280)

HITTHEPANDA: 5% ($350)

heyimdro: 4% ($280)

Bakes: 9% ($630)

71% SOLD OUT!

you sold 71% at a 30% markup...?


wait, someone told me it was 40% markup.

confrim/deny?

no, 40% markup

id buy if it was 1.2-1...

edit: not trying to to **** up your investments, but 1.4-1 seems like its really really high.

Preface: I think timex is pretty much the nuts in poker, love watching his videos.. And i will prolly learn a lot from this response.. and i am by no means flamming him or his thoughts..

Body: I think you are wrong... I am by no means a "math" guy, so correct me through math if you will.. but i agree with Complete Donks theory.. If there was a backer and he had a choice to put a horse into 1 tournament or 25 tournaments, i think he would choose 25 everytime.. Because no matter how good the horse is, his expected ROI over 25 should be higher...This is obv field strength aside..

To further elaborate this point from my point of view, if someone was giving a one time stake for lets say the sunday million.. They would most likely give a 80/20 split or 85/15.. But if someone was giving a stake in the sunday million for 25 straight sundays, most likely the backer would give a slightly better deal, due to the likely hood the backer would see higher returns... no?

With this being said, it is not natural to charge more make up on the probability of having more return?

All that being set aside.. I am probably wrong in my thinking, but i am sure someone will correct me on that.. But i know i am 100% correct on the following..

Donk is not "forcing" anyone to buy any of the tournaments.. He is merely offering a opportunity... to potential investors, some might think his juice is to high, don't purchase, some might think he is scamming or whatever the ignorance that has been said in here.. Simple, don't buy.. AND don't post in here and try and discourage others from buying, that is bad form (which we get a lot of on here) People far to often on 2+2 try and become judge and jury and make other peoples decisions for them.. We are grown ups, we read the OP and if we like what we see we BUY...10% Vig 25% Vig 75%Vig, w/e it is... we have the option to look, calculate and purchase what we choose with OUR money.. I am so tired of people passing judgement on what is a good deal or not.. (FYI i don't think timex was doing this at all, i think he was just referring to donks comment on what is "justified" markeup)

GL Tom. Donk... Hope u take somethings down....

DONT EVER QUESTION TIMEX AND HIS BACKING KNOWLEDGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Can I paste HHs in your staking thread tourbound? Just to show your investors how awesome you are ldo. Obviously I can't post my opinion on whether you're +EV or not since your post above says I'm not allowed to.

And on that note, why exactly are people only allowed to say positive things in people's staking threads but not allowed to voice negative opinions? If you're allowed to say OP is a good investment then you should also be able to say OP is a bad investment. Seems pretty one sided if potential investors only get to see "good things" about OP.

I agree with Tourbound. This obviously isn't a scam because I'm not forcing anyone to buy the action, or begging anyone to. I sent IMs to people on my AIM list containing the link to this thread and that's pretty much it. Other people just found the thread and decided to invest. It's their decision to invest and nobody elses. I cannot force them to invest obviously.

I don't think a lot of negative things should be posted in a thread because it's not really up to you to decide whether it's +EV or not. It's up to the people investing. If they want to invest they will. If they want to look further in to it and find out if it's +EV or not they will. It's all up to them and it's their job as investors. Surely they could PM me or a mod, or some knowledgeable backers about whether or not something is +EV.

If something could simply end at someone posting some feedback that may say something is -EV or not that'd be fine. It just doesn't happen that way. People will flame eachother and end up derailing a perfectly fine staking thread which is not what we want to happen at all. It's hard for people to have civilized arguments on the internet, period.

Anyway I'm over arguing this stuff because it's dumb. I think the markup is reasonable and it's +EV for both investors and I. It might not be as profitable as say 1.2:1 markup obviously but it's positive expectation none the less. I'm going to ship something for infinite tomorrow so it doesn't really matter.

GL ME!!!!!!!!

I thank you in advance for winning us all monies. Best of luck tomorrow, CompleteDonk!

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