At this point I'm glad I only invested $16. I was literally on the fence about him and just wanted to take a gamble. I guess since staking so many people here I've stopped looking into them and just trusted everyone. My mistake I suppose.

after I invested, I saw his other package as well and was curious. Something was telling me when I was thinking of investing why he wanted 100 x $8s (when he really only ever played $2.5s) for his 2nd package. Guess 800 is his magic 'I'd lose my online reputation for this amount' amount

Just FYI he did return all my money + profits from the 1st package before I invested in this one. I would give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

this is very sick

http://playerscope.com/menahem777/po...83&pnid=1&tt=2

I hope this is not what i'm thinking

Sorry to say, but i think you guys have been screwed over.

i feel so screwed

That's is probably why he refunded his 1st package to get your trust etc. After that make a bigger package and go off with the 800 bucks. Seems he played Hyper Turbo's with them.

Dont know why people do this to other people, and they also make me and other new people with a low postcount look like idiots and scammers that's what most bothers me and that you guys lost your cuts.

HW1982, just buy action of the people that have been active alot and have a good reputation at 2+2 you can find a topic about trusted people somewhere in the marketplace aswell(if you did not know yet).

I gave him 640 for this package, he said he was taking 15% himself, so there was 680 to be exact.

I still hope he can prove me wrong though.

If this is true, it's a really big blow to my trust in the marketplace.

http://pokerprolabs.com/topsharkpro/...1173C603C63235

he just played in a 0.55 tourney, but i can't find him on stars, he must have disabled the find player feature

I wouldnt count on it bro, I feel sorry for you man really. You seem like a honest cool guy.

Dont loose your trust, just try to invest in more well known people. There's alot of them making weekend packages etcetc. Like i said look up the positive feedback topic to see who are regular package makers and dont start up problems, Im sure if you invest your 640 in those people you'll get good money out of it once they ship, and you will get your money no matter what because they have been doing it for years each weekend.

its' just that 640 is a big piece of my roll, and i specifically put it into SNGs coz its' lower variance compared to tourneys. It'll be tough not to tilt from this.

I hear ya man

I just can't get over this man! Is there anything that I can do at this stage? Feel so sick to just lose 640 like this. Any similar experiences?

nothing we can do now but post in negative feedback thread. Fortunately this is my first time being rolled and it was only $16 (i can't believe I shipped right away when I got home without looking to see if he had come online etc. but that's just the experienced trusting investor in me) But i feel bad for HW for sure. sour beat

Sea28, or menahem777, if u r reading this, I want you to know that we can still work things out. I really trusted u enuff to send you a large chunk of my roll, Coz I thought u did well for me the first time and u shipped me back the profits promptly. U probably went on a downswing and lost the money that we invested in u as well. We've all gone thru this kinda sticky situations. I'll give u some time to work things out. U can pm me when u r ready to talk. If u can afford to return the money, your online reputation remains intact. We'll forget bout this episode. If u can't afford it now, we can work out a repayment plan. Or something. I hope that this make sense to you. Will wait for your pm.

Hi, mods are aware of this. He hasn't logged in since the 29th and Sharkscope certainly makes it look like he's bust his account totally. At this point there's nothing we can do unfortunately. He played a bunch of heads up super-turbos, but from what I can see he didn't drop $$$ to a friend but to a pile of regs so nothing Stars can do here either.

Will give him a few days to return but if he doesn't will just ban him. If anyone has any extra details about him, other sites screen names, AIM/MSN contact details etc either post them in this thread or PM me them please.

yuck. I am a reg in those 18.77 hypers and was playing at the time. Don't recall if I played him tho, as there are an amazing number of randoms playing these. Just makes me feel kinda sick.

This really sucks, and I know the feeling. But know that pretty much everyone who stakes gets rolled at some point.

The advice above in this thread is solid tho. Look for people who have sold a lot of action here before and/or have positive feedback in the pos feedback thread. You can do a search under the persons name to see what threads they have started if they don't include links to previous packages, and look at how their packages went.

It's not foolproof, as even big winners in poker have been known to degen in cash games and/or the pits and wind up rolling, but it does definitely cut down on the losses.

of course I will also do my best to help re-boost your roll this weekend.

+1 And i am sure you will make us all happy Kami!

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Real class imo, he just couldn't resist the urge to log back on to check out the destruction he's caused. He's stupider than I thought, not only did he go busto with our money, but he used the same account to login again - at least make a new account

disgusting bastard - hate thieves!!!

Just went to check up on this thread and checked his profile. Looks like he's in the marketplace currently.

And even more amusing...

i'm not a thief never meant to do any of this, i'm in the process of paying back my investors

I think you should also provide an explanation in the thread as to why you avoided the thread and spent investors money.

Because i didn't know what was right to say was feeling terrible inside and didn't know what to do. Because i was waiting for some money to be sent from an investor and i was thinking that i could play other games with the money while I'm waiting and make some extra money and it turned out that i lost all of their money + 250 of my own money while i tried to make their money back to start the package, made a stupid mistake and now I'm paying for it

It just shows that you have no idea, not coming here and posting was so stupid any rep you did have is now gone even if you make everything right. I am pretty sure none of the investor could care less whether you feel bad. You should. Its difficult enough for people to start making packages and building rep without people like you being idiots and ruining the chances of new package makers.