a thread seems to have vanished - About the Forums

Two Plus Two Forums Two Plus Two About the Forums

a thread seems to have vanished

Post Reply Subscribe

...

09-09-2011 , 02:11 PM

niceguysFT

adept

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,191

i'm wondering how often, and under what circumstances threads are 'removed' or deleted entirely from 2+2, or another explanation for why a thread no longer seems to exist.

I recognize the 'under what circumstances' might be rather a broad question, or may require a lengthy answer if it were to be answered thoroughly, and I don't require that at all.

it's that I recognized a thread..basically of little consequence/importance, and certainly not inflammatory, just a question and then later a follow up question that seemed genuine, to which i and several others had provided responses (posts) is missing. I looked at my post history as well as the post history of 2 of the other posters in the thread and the posts as well as the thread are missing from each of our histories.

so if its easy enough to answer, can i get brief explanation as I'm curious, how/why a thread dissappears?

Quote

09-09-2011 , 02:16 PM

Tartufo

banned

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 17,329

sometimes a mod accidentally an entire thread

Quote

09-09-2011 , 02:17 PM

VP$IP

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,841

Quote:

Originally Posted by VP$IP

Would it also be a massive PITA to send a PM to the person whose post is being deleted?

example:

Deleted post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by soah

Did you not understand his first two replies? Your suggestion is horrible and wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VP$IP

Congratulations for coming up with an extreme example!
In that case of "50+ posts deleted" would it be a massive PITA to make a single post in the thread stating:

50+ posts have been deleted. That may include your post. Don't do it again.

How about the more common case where one post is deleted?
If a mod deletes one post, which scenario is more beneficial to the forum?

[ ] Post disappears. Poster is notified.
[ ] Post disappears. Poster is not notified that anything was inappropriate.

Welcome brother.

Quote

09-09-2011 , 02:18 PM

Mike Haven

Moderotor of Moderots

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 14,546

In this case, it seems the poster was a spammer, and all of his posts were deleted.

When an OP is deleted, the entire thread goes with it.

Quote

09-09-2011 , 02:56 PM

kioshk

Nixonian

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 92,827

Aliens often abduct threads, but it's always covered up.

Last edited by Bobo Fett; 09-09-2011 at 11:32 PM. Reason: All your base are belong to us.

Quote

09-09-2011 , 03:03 PM

Bobo Fett

Carpe Diem

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 56,895

It was a bit of an unusual situation in that the poster started a fairly normal thread, which got a number of good replies, and then went on to make posts elsewhere on 2+2 that were deemed to be spam. When someone has only been here for a few days/weeks, and have made several spammy posts, moderators will often use the OTB&C tool, which bans the poster and deletes all of their posts. As Mike said, deleting the first post of a thread deletes everything.

Since it looks like that thread had generated some discussion, I've undeleted it.

VP$IP, it seems you forgot to include the replies you got:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

I don't know what else to tell you; it seems the only way you would be convinced is if I sat you down next to me and showed you how it all works. I've been doing this for a few years, and I can promise you it would be a huge PITA to send a PM every time we deleted a post, and for very little benefit. And again, where does the supermod fit into this?

I think I understand your overall point here - I'm sure there are times when a post is deleted and the poster is genuinely at a loss as to why that is, and I'm sure that's frustrating. But the vast majority of the time, it should be quite apparent, and a good number of those times the poster does get a PM with their infraction. Unfortunately, your solution is pretty much unworkable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tuq

I like where your head is at here - I honestly do - but it's just way too much work to engage someone about every post deletion. Because what will happen a decent percentage of the time is the person will get butthurt and will argue about it which could lead to a rather lengthy exchange involving the deletion of a single post. Which let's face it, unless it's an epic post or an often-bumped thread, once a few days or a bunch of newer posts happen it's all but buried on the internet forever.

(Although one comic aspect of implementation of your rule would be Dids, because not only does he post about how he hates PMs and can't be bothered with them, but he also deletes posts by the hundreds, so he would literally be PMing all day and night or would be forced to delete less. Which is basically a win either way.)

Also, supermods don't have jurisdiction or whatever over a regular mod, their purpose is to delete necessary things out of forum as needed. No point in getting them involved.

Quote

09-09-2011 , 03:25 PM

niceguysFT

adept

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,191

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

thanks for the explanation. it makes sense.

i have seen posters banned and threads locked, but this was the first I had noticed a thread deleted and I was puzzled and curious.

it wasn't actually necessary to un-delete, but appreciated and i hope it didn't take too much time or effort. thanks again

Quote

09-09-2011 , 03:47 PM

VP$IP

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,841

OK then.

Quote

09-09-2011 , 04:29 PM

Moderator662

banned

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 58

I deleted it.

Quote

09-09-2011 , 04:35 PM

#10

gtpitch

making sick bumps

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 33,706

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moderator662

I deleted it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

Here's hoping you'll be next soon (again).

Quote

09-09-2011 , 04:50 PM

#11

SGT RJ

Twitching

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 49,109

But he's willing to work for free.

Quote

09-09-2011 , 08:44 PM

#12

TeamTrousers

talks the talk

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,894

I wouldn't trust someone who would do it for free......

Quote

09-09-2011 , 10:20 PM

#13

soah

Unexpected

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 61,667

Quote:

Originally Posted by VP$IP

Welcome brother.

is there some reason you selectively quoted my post from that thread but not the ones prior to it that actually addressed your suggestion?

Quote

09-10-2011 , 12:01 AM

#14

VP$IP

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,841

Quote:

Originally Posted by soah

is there some reason you selectively quoted my post from that thread but not the ones prior to it that actually addressed your suggestion?

Your post made an impression on me.

I was left uncharacteristically speechless.

Quote

09-10-2011 , 08:04 AM

#15

plaaynde

Poker Historian

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 20,058

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamTrousers

I wouldn't trust someone who would do it for free......

This will keep me awake at night.

Quote

Post Reply Subscribe

...