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snooker rules question concerning free ball snooker rules question concerning free ball

05-17-2011 , 08:11 AM
All reds have been potted, now my opponent fouls on the yellow and i get a free ball. I nominate yellow and pot it. Is it respotted or not?
05-17-2011 , 09:07 PM
i don't believe it is respotted as you only apply the free ball rule to potting a ball which is not 'on'.

more to the point what situation was you in were your snookered on the yellow but its still the easiest shot on the table? normally in this situation your far better to just play a really tight safety shot.
05-18-2011 , 03:23 AM
i was playing "world championship snooker" on the computer. I didn't see all of the ball (hence the free ball) but it was right in front of the pocket and i saw enough of the right side of it to cut it in easily with position on the green but the referee respotted it.
05-18-2011 , 12:05 PM
that shouldn't come back up, no
05-18-2011 , 02:27 PM
Quote:
10. Snookered After a Foul
After a foul, if the cue-ball is snookered, the referee shall state FREE BALL (see Section 2, Rule 16).
(a) If the player next in turn elects to play the next stroke,
(i) he may nominate any ball as the ball on, and
(ii) any nominated ball shall be regarded as, and acquire the value of, the ball on except that, if potted, is shall then be spotted.

http://www.worldsnooker.com/page/RulesofSnooker
05-18-2011 , 05:00 PM
thx wamy.
05-19-2011 , 03:46 AM
Solid grammar in world snooker rules as well imo lol
05-22-2011 , 06:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noir_Desir
All reds have been potted, now my opponent fouls on the yellow and i get a free ball. I nominate yellow and pot it. Is it respotted or not?
It gets respotted so look to get position on the yellow spot again. You'll get 2 points for the free ball and if you pot the yellow again, another 2 posts ofc.
08-25-2011 , 12:32 PM
It gets re-spotted......
08-30-2011 , 11:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MidyMat
It gets re-spotted......
No. In the OP the player didn't make the yellow as a free ball, he made the yellow as the ball 'on'.
08-31-2011 , 12:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noir_Desir
my opponent fouls on the yellow and i get a free ball. I nominate yellow AS THE FREE BALL
like said 10 times before, you respot the yellow
08-31-2011 , 01:49 PM
Didn't have a clue about this so did some reading

It seem that it is not respotted, as you do not respot the on ball if it is potted during a valid free ball situation.

Quote:
Originally Posted by http://www.ibsf.info/rules-snooker.shtml#2_13
(d) If a ball on is potted, after the cue-ball struck the nominated ball first, or simultaneously with a ball on, the ball on is scored and remains off the table.
It also may not have been a free ball to begin with, as it sounds like the ball was angled rather than snookered. Snookers require the angles to be blocked by other balls, not the cushion.

Quote:
Originally Posted by http://www.billiardworld.com/snooker.html
Angled: The cue ball is angled when a direct stroke in a straight line to any part of every ball on is obstructed by a corner of the cushion. If there is any one ball on that is not so obstructed, the cue ball is not angled. If angled after a foul the referee or player will state "Angled Ball", and the striker has the choice to either (1) play from that position or (2) play from in hand within the Half Circle.
and

Quote:
Originally Posted by http://www.ibsf.info/rules-snooker.shtml#2_16
(e) The cue-ball cannot be snookered by a cushion. If the curved face of a cushion obstructs the cue-ball and is closer to the cue-ball than any obstructing ball not on, the cue-ball is not snookered
09-01-2011 , 03:39 AM
It was snookered. I had to strike it from the right side to pot it (which was possible), but couldn't see all of the ball because another one was in the way.
09-01-2011 , 10:05 PM
If you are in a free ball situation but decide to pot the ball you are supposed to hit next you have waived your free ball option.

In your situation you cannot nominate yellow as a free ball.

At least that is how I understand the rule.
09-02-2011 , 11:35 AM
Yeah, you can't nominate the ball 'on' as the free ball.

Interestingly enough, you can use the free ball to pot the ball 'on', though.


And for what it's worth, as far as I'm concerned the free ball rule is absolutely ridiculous and has no place in a serious game. The sooner it's eliminated the better the sport will be.
09-13-2011 , 09:27 AM
Another free ball question: has anyone ever scored a 155 break?
09-13-2011 , 10:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lastcardcharlie
Another free ball question: has anyone ever scored a 155 break?
Here's a video of Jimmy White doing it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK4U1...eature=related
09-13-2011 , 11:10 PM
I believe you, Jimmy.
09-14-2011 , 01:07 PM
About 15 years ago a pro made a 16 red total clearance in a tournament match.

The break was only 142 or something though.

I'll try and find out who it was.
09-19-2011 , 11:47 PM
Found this article, the break I was thinking of was the Steve James 135:



The highest snooker break in competition is Wally West's 151. He made the break in the final of a club handicap at the Hounslow Lucania Club in 1976 against Derek "Butch" Rogers, in front of about 100 spectators. The qualified referee John Posner was in charge of the match.

Wally won the first frame with the aid of a 104. In the second, Butch clipped the blue and left Wally snookered. Wally potted green as his free ball with a brown to follow. He then took 14 red and blacks and a pink off the last red. He then cleared up to make the 151.

Jamie Burnett (Scotland) made a break of 148 on 16 October 2004, at the Prestatyn qualifiers for the Travis Perkins UK Championship. This was the first break over 147 in professional snooker. Burnett made the break in the 14th frame of his match against Leo Fernandez. He potted the brown as the extra red, then another brown followed by the 15 reds and all the colours. He made a blue on the first red, a pink on the last one and another pink on one of the other reds. The rest went with blacks. He went on to win the match 9-8.


The first 16 red clearance in a tournament was by Steve James (b. 2 May 1961) who made 135 against Alex Higgins in the World Professional Championships at Sheffield, S Yorks on 14 Apr 1990.

Steve Duggan (b. 10 Apr 1958) made a witnessed break of 148 against Mark Rowing in a local handicap tournament at in the Woodlands Snooker Club, Woodlands, Doncaster, S Yorks on 27 Apr 1988. The Guinness Book of Records got it wrong at the time, saying it was in a practise match.

Phil Doody was the referee in the aforementioned match. The week before the match Rowing, made a 155 break against Doody, in a practise frame, on the same table, in the same club! Unfortunately, as only Rowing and Doody were present, the Guinness Book of Records, wouldn't record it.

Dean Reynolds (England) had a 16 red clearance of 143 in the seniors event of the 2006 European Team championships, in Carlow, Ireland.

6 December 2008 Ricky Walden (England) made a 16 red clearance of 141 against Mark Davis (England) in the last qualifying round for the 2008 Maplin UK Championship. The event was held at The World Snooker Academy in EIS (English Institute of Sport) Sheffield. He won the frame 149-0. It was the thirteenth frame of the best-of-17 match, which he lost 7-9.
09-20-2011 , 01:54 AM
If a colored ball is potted while any reds remain on the table, or is illegally potted at any stage, then it is respotted at its starting point at the beginning of a frame.
09-20-2011 , 07:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Camel
About 15 years ago a pro made a 16 red total clearance in a tournament match.

The break was only 142 or something though.

I'll try and find out who it was.
i believe it was jamie cope who made the 16 red clearance.

      
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