Can usually make runs of around three or more simple balls, struggles with very accurate position over long distance, and finds long/fine angle/marginal shots hard.

The propsed line for red is tricky. First 5 balls are fine but 6 to 7 in the proposed line would be an extremely hard shot assuming that we clear in one go especially with tight pockets. There's no obvious natural line that leaves a nice pot on 7 (let alone one that gives a simple position on the black afterwards) and we could easily end up snookered.

Yellow offers us some simple pots and given the standard of the opponent we'd expect at least one of the railed red balls to cause issues (not to mention the black only goes to three pockets for him and the balls by the black would be our last balls anyway).

I'd be potting the yellow just below middle first assuming we aren't badly hampered which it looks like we aren't (if we are maybe we have to go red and deal with it). Potting the yellow by red ball "6" isn't viable because we'll cannon his red off the cushion.

Well not really if you stunned it in the middle of both reds but it's got to be spot on and the position has got to be perfect

I'm going red here.

If i were to do Yellow, i'd have a headache on my positioning.

Going by the ball numbers from baptz i'd (try to) go

1,3,6,7,5,4,2,8.

For future reference a poll would be good for threads like this.

Thanks, keep em coming

Yellow ball, middle pocket.

You ever play Maltese Joe, Wamy?

My friend and I set this up on a real table. Seems that the red was easier than I thought, but the yellow works just as well. At least for us.

What do you mean. This thread has a poll

Will put pools from today on all problems with very specific answers (most likely the amateur problems), but some of the more advanced questions are not really suitable for a poll as the answers are too broad. Will see how it develops.

Sounds like I'm a competent amateur. :fistpump:

I'd choose yellows for the reasons already stated, but if I was in good form I'd fancy running out either.

That's a very precise positional shot for your opening shot and you may even need to be playing it into the right half of the pocket, which is always dicey. I'd much rather run it round off two cushions for choice of yellows. Obviously depends on the angle, though.

When I set up the position on a real table, I played the same ball but with some top-right english, coming around the 2 rails. It was fairly easy.

Yeah this shot is fine too - as is the one rail of the far left ball. Purely depends on what you feel most comfortable with. Used that example to illustrate the importance of cue ball movement minimisation but there is certainly more than one way to skin a cat here.

Proper UK table = yellows
Crappy US bucket pocket table = doesn't matter impossible to miss

I like that shot cause you have got a big margin for error and are more or less gtd to be on a ball

The shot wamy has done here is alot harder but it all depends on your skill level and how you feel at the time

Will happily travel to Scotland/pay for you to come to London, to play an 8ball/9ball/straight pool/one pocket match on a US regulation table for anything above £50 a frame with a min match length of 20 frames and we can see just how impossible for you to miss it is.

PM me if interested and I'm sure we can find an escrow. Will happily play higher/longer after one match depending on who you are/send down in your place.

wisdom.

Yellows.. as two reds are tight to the cushion, plus we have 2 yellow balls covering 2 pockets for the black...

edit: jus read bottom bit about first balls....

i'd take the one nearest the middle pocket as it unblocks the path for the other yellow in the same bag...

Reds.

Grunching here, I only read the first bunch of yellow responses. I feel pretty confident of running the reds off here, and not at all confident of doing so with the yellows. Way too much can go wrong with the yellows, but the reds are all totally clear. The only real challenge (taking reds) is the 8, and there are a couple options. It's clear for both sides and the top left corner, so position for one of those won't be that difficult. I also have a couple opportunities to push one of the yellows out of the way of the other corners when pocketing a red.

The 4 reds upper left are simple, then take the two reds to the upper right corner and come back for the last red in the lower right corner, leaving my cue out enough for that shot to roll off that rail to take the 8 in the top side, or the top left corner if I roll out farther.


I'm not interested in taking yellows for defensive reasons here, as the opponent isn't going to run them. If I don't win from here I'll have another shot.

I played 6 and 7 level APA for years.

Suggestion for future problems: orient the table image vertically so a side is a side and top and bottom are short rails. Easier to describe.

seems easiest. and if you fudge any of the shots, there are a ton of escape hatches, with all the reds sitting in front of pockets.

i need a life.

Dying Actors: We agree that red is the proper choice, but I'd choose a different order. I started to do a diagram like yours (started both methods actually) but wasn't feeling that industrious.

I think you have a risky shot getting position on your #2 and then you have to change to an unplanned sequence. Using your numbers (single table diagram), I'd play it 1,3,4,5, then 6,7,2 or 7,6,2 depending on my angle to come back across (off the rail) for #2. Then 8 in the top middle or if I roll a bit too far, in the top left. My only real concern here is missing my shape on the last red or the 8, but there is some wiggle room.

feels like a small risk. you can hit the yellow, or go behind it, and most times when you kiss the yellow, you'll still be fine. and in the very off chance you somehow dont have shape for your 2nd shot, the 'unplanned' sequences are no more difficult than what you would take as an alternative from the start. its a cakewalk.

erm...ok

I meant from that layout on a US table having the reds at the cushions wouldn't cause a whole deal of concern due to where the other balls were.....now climb down from your highhorse

But yeah come to Scotland and I'll play you for a pint a game :P

Pay for my ticket im there.

Saying you cannot miss on a table is quite a dangerous proposition - apologies for not seeing the true meaning.

I'm ok at pool but don't claim to be great...but from the layout in OP the reds would be fairly straight forward to clear on a US table but not so on a UK table.

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