i'm very very high on episode 4, and bits of 9 were very good. 8 was just aight for me dog.

4 and 9 being really good doesn't prove the season was good. it actually does the opposite by illustrating what actually works (hint: it's usually human backstories, humans talking to each other, or interesting AI concepts), in contrast to the remaining 7 episodes that were largely comprised of the least interesting action scenes in history.

it's a totally reasonable opinion to think S2 mostly sucked.

William's backstory, delusion, paranoia, and killing his own daughter were great TV.

I responded to posts that said "this season is trash. honestly couldnt have been more boring." "it was a terrible season." "Humans >>> Westworld"

Those posts are wrong.

S2 had a couple of the best episodes of the entire series, a couple good episodes, and a couple solid episodes. Even if the remaining episodes were bad, that doesn't justify the trashing that S2 has gotten itt. It's just an overreaction to the bad parts that completely discounts the good to great parts.

Even most of the bad episodes had good parts, often flashbacks or views into other parks or the world beyond Westworld. The hosts pitching Logan, William pitching James, Delores/Logan, William/Delores flashbacks, the whole special project reveal bit-by-bit even outside of E4, Grace & the Raj, the Cradle & digital Ford, all Hopkins scenes, etc etc.

There were enough good and great parts that it was a good season. The haters who focus on the action scenes while ignoring the good ones are just cherry picking the bad parts. It would be as if I completely ignored the action/bad parts and said "S2 GOAT TV season of all time! Of all time!" Well, no, it wasn't, but it did have some great episodes, some good ones, and averaging everything out, was net positive. Or at minimum, not the trash that others are proclaiming it to be.

Finished S2 rewatch. It was better the second time around. The cheesy bits seemed less significant on a binge watch. The overall story was good though when you know what's going on.

I think the most significant difference between the two seasons might be that in season 1 there seemed to be a coherent story even before you realize the tricks they were playing with the timelines. It's obviously not the story that was actually playing out but it worked well because it was still something you could follow, and it made the rewatch feel like a brand new show.

Season 2 was clearly a split timeline from the start and there was really no way to piece together a coherent story until the finale. That made it less entertaining on the first watch, but obviously that style was necessary for the Charlotte-Delores reveal and somewhat justifiable artistically seeing as how the season ended up centered around a scrambled Bernard piecing together the same story.

On first watch: S1 >> S2
On second watch: S2 > S1

I think that's the problem though. It almost requires a rewatch to be enjoyed properly and that's probably too much for most people, especially in this day and age when there's so much quality TV.

they need to completely stop doing the double timeline thing for season 3. i thnk s3 will call for it, but its too much, you cn still have a super complex storyline without the timeline shifting back and forth.

s2 still better than 90% of everythign on tv, enjoyed s1 a tad more

also tessa thompson is a bad actress, her performances on westworld have been so ****ing stiff and plain. absolutely no range. why is it so hard to find decent actresses

proly bc of weinstein and the rest of the scumbags in show business.

damn

might be accurate tho.

Bump it.

Kind of a nothing premiere I thought but I'm not stopping watching.

I thought it was good. Dolores has some personality again which was sorely missing in S2. The story seems to be starting almost fresh with new characters and a new world to learn. I'm hoping Nazi world doesn't last long cause that seems like it's going to be dumb, but maybe I just have low expectations cause Samurai world sucked so much.

I never watched season 2 (not sure why). Just started that one, so I’ll binge it. (Trying to stay indoors as much as possible when I’m not flying, so I’m desperate for things to do.)

I find the constant jumping around on the time line confusing. Trying to have an open mind and trusting the writers to tie it together.

Who am I supposed to be rooting for? It seems like I'm supposed to like the robots who want to destroy the humans and are stronger than the humans and feel less pain than the humans who can also control other pieces of technology to foil the humans.

It may just be a matter of time but they haven't made the humans that they're beating up and shooting seem evil enough that I would be rooting for the humans to lose.

WW working to give GoT the ending fans deserve.

So was ep2 better? I had no desire to watch it last night, I am not rooting for anyone. All the humans we followed are now robots.

less real world stuff, very meta, plot committed and def interested in how this season plays out, but not sure how i feel about ep2 overall - ep1 was better imo...won't spoil beyond that

They totally stole that detecting being in a simulation by overloading it thing from Rick and Morty! But using the square root of -1 was a bit ridiculous; if we can trick AIs with simple stuff like that we don't have to worry about robots taking over imo.

Watched ep2, ff'd through most of Maive simulation, and Bernard's quest. Is there anyone from past seasons that's not a fvcking robot? Bernard was a robot, now the head of security was a ****ing robot too? Idk, maybe I'm missing something since I hvent seen S2 for so long.

Why do you have to be rooting for someone?

Thought e2 was kind of great. The teaser from e1 suggested the show would be treading water with a new park, but they turned that on its head and told a relatively self contained mini story that sets up the plot at the same time.

Bernard has always been a robot. Stubbs being a robot was a long held theory and confirmed at the end of S2. Sizemore was not technically a robot, and that story line seemed pretty reasonable actually. Most of the humans in the park were massacred so it shouldn't be a surprise we're only left with robots from that crew, but I assume most of the humans shown in the real world are humans. This is not one of those jumping the shark situations where they just decide that old characters were robots all along, it's a new story that includes robots, some modeled after humans. It's always been that way.

I get that, just not a fan of everyone except 3 new characters are AI's at the moment. Everyone we have followed for 2 years are dead or AI's, hopefully the new human characters are good.

I enjoy being vested in an outcome. It's not that I can't handle an all villain ensemble, but I usually want goodness for someone or something, and I haven't found it yet.

Yeah this is what I though, e1 was a nice prep and e2 raised the stakes.

Also haven't seen yet what became of William. Popcorn.gif

I may be late to this and also possibly wrong