Maybe he's just paranoid enough to want to know if he does or not.

Good episode, MIB backstory is great and pretty moving.

I hope Ed Harris and Hopkins are still involved in season 3. Because this season has made it clear that those 2 really elevate this show to greatness. All the episodes this season (except for 8 which was amazing) without them have been just oke. Maeve/dolores/bernard cant carry this show.

Cant wait for next week

...OR, the experiment on James Delos has been perfected and William has been transferred into a Host body.

The writers would have to account for the security scanner reading "Clear" when they gave him the human Go/No Go test.

I found it extremely curious that we never got the readout on his daughter. William wiped out all the security guys before the scan was complete. So there's still a shot the daughter is a Host.

I love the show, but the "Who is / Who isn't a host" dynamic can run you around in circles thinking about it. SOMEONE has to be real.

I assume not since it would ruin the plot if he was a host. He is suffering from severe paranoia including that he might be a host replacement.

If the security scanner is just a park tool that senses for the explosive Delos human replacement hosts wouldn't necessarily have that.

I think the emotional narrative of her mom hiding William's profile chip in the music box for Emily to find, and Emily dying with it in her hand is telling us it is really her and not a host. Of course the show does lie to the viewer a lot, but the gravity of that situation suggests they weren't in this case.

I agree it was most likely his daughter... I'm just saying that the show is leaving the door a crack open. That's a lot of back story to go through just to have her be a host anyway.

William usually seems like a grounded and level headed character to me, then there are moments when he just loses his **** and you get to see he's messed up to the core.

"The darkness" that lives inside him? I still feel like we need some transition story to that darkness awakening.

The best I can come up with is when he was younger, he fell in love with a robot. Then, when he came back to the park and realized the robot was wiped clean (or had restarted her loop), he .... what? Had a mental breakdown? I think that event is the key, but they haven't really illustrated that strongly enough (at least to me)...

Don't forget that in the episode where MIB found Lawrence earlier this season, MIB fixed the bullet hole in his arm with the same device the techs use to fix hosts. And that when Bernard and Charlotte Hale arrived in the lab where we first see the drone hosts that Bernard "passed" a DNA test to show he wasn't a threat. I assume that meant he read as human, despite being a host.

There is a lot of ambiguity around those tests based on what we've seen.

from avclub comments:

nice touch.

very good episode, but the impact of emily's death is lessened due to the ambiguity about whether or not she's a host (of course this is nothing new, it's a fundamental flaw with the show). if she is real, i would have liked to see the death scene handled a little differently and conclusively.

from reddit:

re: the raj point, when she's in the bedroom with the guy he says 'you think the park would go to the trouble of having one of them pretend to be one of us ', to which she pulls a super weird face and says 'i wouldn't put it past them'. that stuck with me from minute 1, but it doesn't explain why she was so desperate to understand if he was a host or not.

as neue said, those scanners just look for explosives. so i can't believe that she would flag, because presumably she'd be created by ford himself.

as an aside, on 2x08 you can clearly see a camera crew following maeve. it's now been airbrushed out on repeats. 32:41 if anyone has it downloaded.

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this doesn't need to be said, but please don't discuss the ep 10 preview outside of spoiler tags. i'm seeing lots of 'omg wtf ep 10 preview!' thread titles on reddit.

Emily should still be a host I think for a couple reasons.

William said she hates everything about the park and wanted to stay as far away as possible, however she apparently knows The NA language, and her way around the park.

Also Emily said she threw away the gift and it was gone but presumably 10 years (ish)later the gift is still there

I don't think the story makes sense if everyone is a host. Just think Fords last game was for William to question everything

And believe MiB is human

ugh, need to steer clear of the internet for a few days!

Delores personality based on/copy of MIB?

Both are deathbringers.

young,

I think the point of the gift story is that Emily didn't care and threw it away, thinking her mother didn't care about her and her interests, but in actual fact her mother cared very much and dug it out of the trash and secretly kept it all those years. If you want to go further, you could imagine this is one part of what made her so deeply unhappy, thinking her husband didn't (never) loved her and her daughter also hated her.

Whether that's true or not is of course up in the air if/since the show is lying to us, but it at least seems internally consistent.

Dolores was deathbringer (to Arnold) before the park was even open.

Pretty sure Dolores's original personality was based on Charlie, then "Wyatt" was added.

At least so far the show hasn't done any lying when it comes to big emotional moments, so I would expect Emily really is dead.

SPOILERS FOR EP 10 PREVIEW

please make it clear if you are referencing the preview

True, I hadn't thought about it like that. Hopefully some resolution next episode

For those that think Dolores wasn't really awake/sentient yet this season and was still just following the Wyatt narrative, maybe the last scene feeling the pain of losing Teddy was her actually waking up.

Apparently the finale is over 90 minutes long

is there a deeper point to this show or is it just about robots. if there is i dont get it

yes, the show questions the nature of free will. the robots are now living the same lives as humans and appear to be making free decisions. yet, they are obviously created and coded by humans. so if the robots' free will is the same as ours, it calls into question the ability for humans to have free will. perhaps we're just as programmable and deterministic as the robots are?

Thanks. I get that and it's a theme I've thought of watching the show. However, sometimes I feel like the show heads in other directions and is trying to make some other point that I don't get. But what you said, exactly, is what I had thought the show was about.

Big fan of the last few episodes.

All season long I pretended I wasn't confused and then I realized I was probably supposed to be confused up until the end.

jesus christ i still need cole's notes