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03-19-2012 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkSlayer
What do you mean "again"? I don't know how they'll sell the "smell range" of the Michonne's zombies, but I'd wager with a hood + two zombies she can get pretty close without drawing zombie attention.
The thing is, the rules about zombie smelling people have changed a few times already. Changing it again (the last we know zombies can't smell people anymore, except blood, sometimes) will only confuse me more.

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I have no idea what you're getting at about that reveal. The time that's passed in the show is nowhere near what's passed for us, and that's been pointed out more than once ITT.
Why did the CDC guy tell Rick but not the others? Why tell anyone if you're going to kill them all anyway.
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03-19-2012 , 11:31 AM
Michonne is a character from the comics. she is the one with the swords who saved Andrea
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03-19-2012 , 11:33 AM
What was that shot of at the end? it looked like an army complex or something?
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03-19-2012 , 11:35 AM
Prison.
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03-19-2012 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod
well, at first they were all trying to kill zombies, I think they were circling around and shooting everything they could. but clearly the group had no organized defense plan or common goal - Herschel stood outside and shot, some got in cars, some wandered around looking for CARL.

all "escaping" requires is driving away leisurely.
Agreed. I think they were pretty much in near-panic mode, hence the no organized plan. Just run, get in cars, shoot, whatever.

Thinking about it again, they may have been trying to save the farm for a few minutes and then realized it was too far gone. I think they still wanted to try to thin the herd as much as they could before finally fleeing since a dead walker there means one fewer to find them later.

But yeah, pretty much a totally ****ed up situation. I'd like to think I would've made all the smart moves, but who knows?
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03-19-2012 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by dlk9s
Agreed. I think they were pretty much in near-panic mode, hence the no organized plan. Just run, get in cars, shoot, whatever.

Thinking about it again, they may have been trying to save the farm for a few minutes and then realized it was too far gone. I think they still wanted to try to thin the herd as much as they could before finally fleeing since a dead walker there means one fewer to find them later.

But yeah, pretty much a totally ****ed up situation. I'd like to think I would've made all the smart moves, but who knows?
Yes I think their plan was to shoot as many zombies as they can, then use the cars to herd them away from the farm. I believe this is exactly what they said.

Thats why at one point glen makes the decision that they just have to GTFO.

I hope glen steps it up a lot next season. His character gave me the idea that he has problems with rick's leadership, but it might just be bad writing.

Of course this still makes no sense the way they were driving in circles and shooting.
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03-19-2012 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by dlk9s
There were too many. Eventually the car is going to get beat up so badly that it would break down. Plus, by plowing through crowds of walkers, there's a risk of one getting caught under the car and ****ing things up, the windshield becoming too hard to see through, etc. In a one-off situation, it would work, but I think there were just too many with those vehicles, especially when two were old clunkers and one was a Hyundai - a decent enough car, but not a zombie-plowing tank.
<insert UNKLE/ThomYorke video for "rabbit in your headlights" here>
(no youtube access at jobby job)

guess that explains Whori swerving off the road to avoid the solo walker too.
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03-19-2012 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Chrizza
Awesome!
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03-19-2012 , 12:29 PM
My first thought when I saw Michonne was this

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I wanna know if there's any well known story about this kind of thing in mythology because there are a lot of similarities between that character and what I've read so far about Michonne. Wondering where it's all based.

The more I think about it, the more similarities I come up with between TWD and that game. The comics first came out 3 years after the game was released so confused my mind is melting right now. No idea where to post this theory.

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03-19-2012 , 12:57 PM
What game is this?
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03-19-2012 , 01:05 PM
What game is that?

I don't have major issues with the 2 things people are hating on.

The gas run thing, Rick doesn't feel like he can trust anyone right now obviously, and doesn't want to leave one of the cars behind either. So he waits until there is a new day and they have plenty of time to scout.

The woman with the zombie prisonners, I feel like with the way she is dressed, she completely covered in that cape and clothe thing, and 2 zombies right next to her just strolling about, she has to be able to blend in with the zombies pretty well. It probably stinks as hell and slows you down and you probably have to refresh the zombies from time to time, but it sounds smart to me imo.

So the shot was the prison, makes sense. From what I remember from this topic, the time spent in prison is awesome in the comics?
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03-19-2012 , 01:08 PM


The opening scene of that trailer and the scene at 3:45 we never saw this season. Weird.
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03-19-2012 , 01:12 PM
Isn't that 4:00 scene from S1?
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03-19-2012 , 01:14 PM
The opening scene is probably the one LFS(?) was talking about a few weeks ago. You know, the one that supposedly used up a solid portion of the season's budget and didn't make the final cut.
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03-19-2012 , 01:20 PM
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask

Incoming 12 year old N64 video game spoilers (rick&tdogdealwithit.gif)

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Basically, that picture is of a Garo Robe. The Garos themselves are kind of irrel to this, in the storyline they're just some enemies in an ancient war long before your current time. But anyways, in the game you collect a bunch of masks. A lot of these masks are based after characters and essentially let you "become" those characters or at least have some traits of them. One of the special advantages of wearing the Garo's Mask is that all the dead, zombie-like creatures in the game, don't notice you. There are loads of zombies in the game, so it's actually quite helpful. And in some cases, wearing the mask lets you talk to undead spirits.

So basically, wearing the mask makes you kind of "become" a Garo, which is dressed in a big, hooded robe, and wielding two blades. This makes you invisible to the zombies, and kind of gives you a deeper connection to them. I can't help but see Michonne as being exactly this. Of course, it seems like Michonne's zombie pets are really what makes her invisible. But basically that kind of garb; the big hooded robe & two swords is like, the badass zombie invisible garb.


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Even deeper, you get that mask just outside of Romani Ranch; a farmhouse, where two young daughters live with their father (Beth, Maggie & Herschel?) Anyways, at some point in the game, the farm gets invaded. In the game, it's by these alien things instead of zombies. But basically it starts at night and you have to help the girls fend off the invaders from taking over the farm until the dawn of the morning light. You're riding around nonstop on your horse sniping headshots. It's definitely directly comparable to the entire farmhouse invasion scene last night... just never ending hoards of supernatural enemies invading the farm and having to fend them off by riding around on your vehicle/horse and shooting them with bullets/arrows.


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And of course the game takes place in an end of times, apocalypse scenario.


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I guess farmhouses being invaded by zombies/aliens isn't that much of a stretch and is kind of a classic story (Signs has it too, probably others.) But there definitely are huge connections between the Garos and Michonne... just the hooded robe, two swords and being invisible to zombies. I just wanna know if it's a coincidence, if Kirkman took inspiration from Majora's Mask, or if there's like some other, older story in mythology or Japanese culture or something where some kind of legendary hero dressed like that is invisible to zombies; which both MM and TWD took inspiration from.
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03-19-2012 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Brons
So zombies can smell again? I'm so confused.
Remember in the first season how Rick had the idea to make himself smell like a zombie, and then they could hide from the zombies in plain sight? It was a great way to avoid the zombies, until everybody somehow forgot about it.
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03-19-2012 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeremy517
Remember in the first season how Rick had the idea to make himself smell like a zombie, and then they could hide from the zombies in plain sight? It was a great way to avoid the zombies, until everybody somehow forgot about it.
Yeah, I remember. But they stopped smelling people by 201.
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03-19-2012 , 01:32 PM
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T-Dog at back. Perfect.

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Wonder if lori's kid with be infection free? Savior of humanity?
Was also thinking this, after dawn of the dead 04

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Hello all, first time long time whatever.

Not saying I have a bad memory, but I had/have no idea who Partricia and Jimmy were/are until I saw their clips replayed on Talking dead.
Patricia was Otis's wife, and Jimmy was Beth's (surprisingly hot young chick) disappearing boyfriend who no-one really gave a sh*t about

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So while everybody else in enjoying a cozy campfire at the end of this episode T-Dog is still the one who has to keep the guard and apparently nobody seems to give a **** about him. Classic TWD.
So much this, I think the best part was T-Dog's suggestion to "Head East" first to Lori who didn't care if she never saw him again, then to Rick, only for Rick to completely ignore him.

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Black woman with a samurai sword roaming the woods with two armless zombies on a leash. And I thought this was the realistic zombie apocalypse story.
When I saw this scene it tilted me, I know they're sticking with the comics (which I haven't read) and whatever but this character killed any realism the show held on to. I mean what next, flying zombie dragons? I guess it's gonna follow the comic structure mainly (why not make everything unrealistic in this case) but I'd like to see them go off on a few tangents and keep a few characters alive and maybe introduce a suitable Shane replacement. I mean the writings that bad it won't make a difference now if they threw in Chris Rock to crack a few joke's with my man, who I'm quite surprised made it actually.

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I really try to do my part to keep nitpicking on minimum, but I just have to point out Andrea going all commando in this episode.
First of all how on the earth are you supposed to run like 9h straight while carrying a bag of guns?
Secondly...Andrea learnt how to shoot like 2 weeks ago, right? Other than shooting Daryl in the head and the barn shootout, she hasn't shot at anything else afaik. On today's episode, she handles a gun like pretty much expert. Every single shot she makes is a head-shot. Doesn't seem to doubt even for a second. Shooting while running? No problem for her. Just 2 weeks ago she couldn't hit a swinging tree stump.

//Idea: Before the next season starts, lets get a betting pool going about which characters are going die and which aren't.
Would be cool, but unfair advantage thanks to those who read the comics


Overall opinion of the finale, better than the rest of the episodes, but really was built up a little too much. The whole trailer with "13 Surviors, who will make it" etc etc really made me think the team would step it up with a struggled bloodbath, but Hershel was just casually poppin' off walker after walker with a shotgun, and quickly contradicting himself with the whole "I'll die on this farm" line.. Kinda amused me. Lol at him making it outta there, although I thought it left a nice mix with the whole group.

In an ideal world, T-Dog would pop off Rick, Carl and Lori, f*ck Michone or whatever the ninja's called and we'd have a show on our hands.

But yeah, regarding Lori. This says it all.

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03-19-2012 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Brons
The thing is, the rules about zombie smelling people have changed a few times already. Changing it again (the last we know zombies can't smell people anymore, except blood, sometimes) will only confuse me more.



Why did the CDC guy tell Rick but not the others? Why tell anyone if you're going to kill them all anyway.
This is really kind of getting annoying to me. It's like people think in static terms and don't understand how situations aren't always the same.
In the first season, the group uses zombie entrails to disguise themselves and walk among the horde. It works at first, but then the zombies start noticing Rick and Glenn talking, which, at that point, Rick suggests acting more like zombies. They were DIRECTLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HERD WITH NOTHING TO HIDE THEM AT ALL.
In season 2, episode one the zombies don't see them and they hide under the cars (Daryl and T-Dog use corpses to hide themselves, though).
It's not as if zombies have these super amazing senses of smell, it's that they notice when something seems different from them (especially in the comics). If you want to argue the smell thing, then perhaps the wind wasn't blowing toward the zombies and so they didn't smell them.

Also, CDC guy didn't whisper in Rick's ear until they were leaving the facility before the explosion.
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03-19-2012 , 01:52 PM
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Also, CDC guy didn't whisper in Rick's ear until they were leaving the facility before the explosion.
Yeah, but he had already given his "ok I'm gonna explode myself because there's no hope and never has been" speech. He just left that part out? Rick didn't tell anyone because it was too depressing, but Jenner WAS TRYING TO CONVINCE EVERYONE TO KILL THEMSELVES
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03-19-2012 , 01:57 PM
The car drivebys was clearly just because one of the dumbass writers thought it would look cool or be exciting, of course, it made no sense at all.

The whole barn attack, though it did have delicious zombie headshot action(FINALLY!), was shot in this really confusing way where the zombie herd was coming from one direction as a big group but was also scattered everywhere in ones and two depending on the shot.

So like Maggie and Glenn couldn't get through the massed crowd with a car in one scene but then Andrea is juking through the herd like a punt returner in the open field with her bag of guns?

That is a seperate issue from how the characters reactions to the zombie attack were pretty random and insane, but at least they can blame that on stress.
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03-19-2012 , 01:58 PM
Jenner wasn't trying to convince everyone to kill themselves (at least as I remember it). He was telling them that the place was going to blow up and that there was no way out. Then the group was like, "please, please please help us?" And he finally relented.
Maybe Jenner, as a government employee was told not to tell people about the infection, but since he was going to die anyway... Who knows what his motivation was, but the fact is, is that Jenner withheld a lot of info from the characters and I think that's just what his character was supposed to be like.
I could be remembering all of this wrong.
However, the point is the same, Jenner whispers it last minute (probably because he decided to let them go last minute and thought the info might be pertinent.)
That said, the way they find out in the comics is a lot better than this contrivance.
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03-19-2012 , 02:06 PM
wow, I'm reading through the rest of the thread since last night, and I totally missed that there was a line about getting in the same car, that's just terrible

my running out of gas critique was @ the characters bc that is totally something they would do:

stop on a highway with thousands of cars, neither siphon gas nor get a car with a full tank, then run out of gas and not think to do anything to get more, but instead stop and camp

Adding in that there was actually a line that said 'lets pile in' and someone said 'nowai' is on the writers, thats just stupid
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03-19-2012 , 02:07 PM
You're retroactively making the show less dumb, probably because your brain is rejecting the possibility that show that costs millions of dollars could be this dumb.

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Maybe Jenner, as a government employee was told not to tell people about the infection, but since he was going to die anyway...
That would've been a better thing to do than what they did!
Recap of Season 1 finale's ending:
There's a whole big thing where Jenner asks his Star Trek computer to explain the entire infection and reanimation process, and they watch that video of Jenner shooting his wife in an MRI machine?

Then Jenner is like "BTW that countdown is until an explosion, there's no hope, I haven't heard from anybody on the radio, France, blah blah blah we should all just die"

Then there's a huge argument about hope, Jenner agrees to let them leave, Andrea and the black lady say they are going stay(Dale stays behind to convince Andrea to stay alive but nobody cares about the black lady), T-Dog hits the window with a chair.

http://videogum.com/252972/the-walki...ale/tv/recaps/

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03-19-2012 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
So like Maggie and Glenn couldn't get through the massed crowd with a car in one scene but then Andrea is juking through the herd like a punt returner in the open field with her bag of guns?

That is a seperate issue from how the characters reactions to the zombie attack were pretty random and insane, but at least they can blame that on stress.
This kinda touches on one of the things I remember talking about back in season 1; a zombie show/movie where people had seen a zombie show/movie

You're in a zombie apocalypse, wouldn't at some point you think about the best way to evade zombies, in general and in case the farm was overrun?

One of the great parts about Zombieland is that opening scene where he goes over the rules; conditioning (run from the zombies, during which part he essentially does a light jog in a circle and successfully navigates away from 3-4 of them), fasten your seatbelt, and iirc use a machete (tho this may have been from the Zombie Survival guide)

Rick seemed to have figured something out with the blood and attracting zombies. After all this time, they don't have a general set of rules like, jog in a pattern, have your gun but also have a knife, etc

Then re: the farm, they were there for however long. There was at no point a contingency plan for what happens if zombies come? The cars weren't packed with food and supplies? There wasn't a fallback, place to retreat, or a place to meet? Incredible.

(these are actually points that one would think of whether they had seen a zombie movie/show before or not)
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