I watched the last 2 yesterday of Mom, and got a ton of laughs (had been awhile, so can't remember when the turn was from average to above average). There were definitely some funny episodes in the run, but it's still a little uneven. Janney is so amazing in that part that it completely elevates the show to seem better than it is. French Stewart and his sidekick are good for a laugh or two in every episode, so it was nice to see him and Janney actually getting together in the very twisted way that they did. The wine destroying in that episode looked really dangerous, wonder how much of that was much safer than it appeared.

Sean is a really fun show, but it just has no viewers. Last night's episode was hilarious. He has really brilliant comedic timing, and is one of the best line readers for the type of stuff he's doing that I've seen in a long time. We rewound like 4 or 5 times for the "I think you're awful" line, it was so funny.

I seem to remember them planning 6 seasons for the syndication deal. Is this season 5 or 6?

It's season five. I don't remember hearing about that but could very easily have missed it.

I think syndication was bought on the show in the third season (before any kind of renewal announcement had been made, as they would have been short of 88 even after 4 seasons, if I remember correctly), and they were hoping for a lot more than 4 seasons. I could be wrong about the 6, but I think I'm not.

Sean was brilliant in Will & Grace, but hasn't done anything since. The fact that they were doing a similar character in this is why I almost didn't tune in. If he was as over-the-top as he was on W&G I think I'd have quit after the pilot.

Two words: Veronica Mars

I think a Community movie would get funded much faster (kickstarter style) then Veronica Mars, which was deserving as well.

Interesting fun fact is that he is also a Producer on Grimm, or at least someone with the exact same name is...lol.

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about that. Dan Harmon is already involved in one Kickstarter project that got funded. This could totally happen.

The Assets was pretty good. It was a compelling, interesting, based on a real event story, that was moderately well executed. It was deliberately paced, but I think it will take off pretty quickly. The basic idea is the CIA trying to capture a mole that's compromising a lot of assets in the Soviet Union.

Almost everyone I clicked on the imdb page was from the UK. There isn't much info about it, but I find that kind of interesting.

Cool I'll check this out. How does this compare to the americans?

More realistic and less soapy (it's ABC, though, so give it time to eff that up), but they were pretty much just setting the stage in that episode (introducing the characters, setting up something bad happening, trying to figure out what happened, deciding how to combat it, and sort of setting up who would be in charge of the effort).

I'd say The Americans has a lot of influence on the style of the show (the show feels more like late 60s than mid 80s to me, I don't know), but I don't think they're trying to be like The Americans (you constantly see these giant Reagan photos in the CIA, which makes me think that's a foreigner's dig at how Reagan was perceived in the U.S. at the time, since I've never seen photos that big on walls of offices, though they were always there). The show would probably fall into the howdunnit category of cop shows. We know who the bad guy is from the first scene of the show, but no one else knows it's him, yet, and he's apparently instrumental in the team that the person trying to catch him is on (his role is very unclear so far, and it's also unclear whether he was trying to steer the operation that went south another direction, because he had given up the secrets and knew it).

Remember, The Americans is trying to do a soap drama in a compelling environment, while knowing the score, and writing the show that way. This show appears to be trying to do a compelling show in a "real" environment, while knowing the score, but acting like it doesn't. It's starting from a better point, because writing from the winners' perspective is never as good as knowing who wins, but not knowing how they got there. It's a good thing it's a short run, or we never would be seeing all of them, due to the terrible ratings. I hope it gets better, but it's definitely watchable and a bit above average right now.

Moderate start for Intelligence, and cremated start for Killer Women.

Intelligence:

2.4 in the 18-49 demo and 16.59 million viewers

Killer Women:

0.9 in the 18-49 demo and 3.87 million viewers

It should be interesting to see how Intelligence does in its real time slot. The show skewed really old, which I'm guessing is because of the CSI connection (at least I think that's the connection). It beating POI is disturbing, but I'm hoping the show is good anyway. I probably won't get to watch it until tomorrow at the earliest. General thoughts about the show are appreciated.

Won't give Intelligence a shot at all, but I did give KW a chance. It's really not that bad. It's trying to follow in the footsteps of Justified, which it will never be in the same league of, but I appreciate that it's trying.

Intelligence was . . . lacking.
Not likely to watch again.

1st ep spoiler

But mrbaseball said it was better than POI already. I think

Surprised if this show makes it

No need to get personal as tastes vary. Both are pretty much average TV. Intelligence had decent action and potential. It is similar to POI in the aspect of over the top fantasy future of artificial intelligence applications and yeah there are things about POI I don't particularly like. As discussed in the other thread where I posted that opinion there is a big divide on opinions of POI.

I didn't get personal, I only took the opportunity to call you a h8r...lol. I still need to watch Intelligence, but no matter what you say, you are grossly underrating Person of Interest. To me, it sounds like you are watching it in the background, and not actually paying attention to the show. Opinions aren't really that divergent on POI (most of the people dissing it in the other thread are dismissing it as not being high brow, and based on their lists, it's easy to see why they don't like it), and there's NO WAY POI is "pretty much average TV" (if you think it is, you need to watch MUCH more TV to re-calibrate). When people tend to think a show is at the level you do, they move on. The second and third seasons of POI have been fantastic, and ironically, it's losing viewers as it gets better. There's probably a little TOO much serialization going on now for the typical CBS viewer, and the case of the week stuff hasn't been what's driven the show for a long time now.

You are simply a typical internet clown. If you are disagreed with on a subjective matter of personal preference you must fight a war of words trying to prove that YOUR opinion is the only correct one and insults must be hurled at anyone who dares to disagree with a SUBJECTIVE OPINION.

Of those dissing POI in the other thread I was the only one who said its okay yet I need to be called on my personal opinion because I don't jizz my pants when watching it like you do. This is the kind of internet behavior I thought you were above but I guess I was wrong there.

Oh yeah, well both of you are stupid morons with ugly faces and big butts and your butts smell and you like to kiss your own butts.

mrbaseball, you seem to be having a bad day...lol. You are taking things WAY too personally, despite basically being lightly needled, and not even that seriously at that.

DC, no u.

Community and Parks killing it

WOW!! The Millers pulls in those #'s?

Lead ins matter. Especially on CBS.