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02-18-2014 , 08:27 PM
TD gives off many of the same vibes as No Country for Old Men, so I feel obligated to point out how freakin awesome Javier Bardem would be in a future season.
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02-18-2014 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Dean Manifest
TD gives off many of the same vibes as No Country for Old Men, so I feel obligated to point out how freakin awesome Javier Bardem would be in a future season.
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02-18-2014 , 09:01 PM
I think Walter Goggins could do some sweet work in future seasons.
n since justified only has one more season he'll be available.
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02-18-2014 , 09:18 PM
^ THIS
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02-18-2014 , 09:35 PM
i also think ed harris, titus welliver, and garret dillahunt would be sweet.
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02-18-2014 , 09:38 PM
Its going to be interesting now to see how the show develops given the fact that Cohle has left the interview. Will we just see things from Marty's POV? Will they show Cohle in his current life?? Should be interesting...
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02-18-2014 , 09:42 PM
seems like the most likely thing would be alternating between WH retelling what went down between him and MM from 2002 onwards including flashbacks with things from MM's perspective going forward from 2002 in the school house to present day.

ending of course with it all being just some autistic kids fantasy being played out in a snow globe.
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02-18-2014 , 10:39 PM
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I understood, related to, and learned from Cole's nihilistic rants in episode three, but I didn't really get the life circling/eternity philosophy in this episode. I'm not able to integrate it into my own world view at all. Also the idea that life is forever repeating itself and everything we're doing we've already done countless times before seems way more mystical than thinking everyone is a biological puppet and that consciousness was an evolutionary mistake.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...isode-yet.html

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A lot of us have probably already wiki'd (or read) The Yellow King, or known about Carcosa. I, for one, couldn't make heads or tails of how it tied into the story. I try, but trying can't help stupid sometimes. I'd like to hear some ideas.
This isn't a crime mystery. It's a horror story.
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02-18-2014 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dean Manifest
TD gives off many of the same vibes as No Country for Old Men, so I feel obligated to point out how freakin awesome Javier Bardem would be in a future season.
Great point. It absolutely has the same feeling of dread and hopelessness; like there is just no stopping the encroaching evil. Totally agree on Bardem too.

Warning for derail on No Country/Woody...

WH went unbilled in NCFOM. When I went to theatre to see it, I had no idea he was in it. As soon as he appeared on screen I was like, wow, this totally fits. Drug runners, killers, West Texas...this can't be a coincidence knowing WH's father's history. The whole way home I explained the story to girl I was w/. Yes, I have no life and stuff like this fires me up.

So I went out to get the book and sure enough the murder of a federal judge is mentioned in the book (don't remember if they refer to Judge John Wood by name).

Charles Harrelson ran in a crowd similar to NCFOM...drug dealers, hitmen, and gamblers. I believe CH turned up on occasion in TX poker games w/ Doyle and Slim. CH murdered Wood (convicted of it anyway) for drug dealer Jamiel Chagra. Chagra was scheduled to be sentenced by Wood when the murder took place.

Chagra is also well known as being one of the biggest rainmakers ever in Vegas high stakes poker games.

With apologies I'll stop now.
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02-18-2014 , 10:47 PM
i have nothing to back this up, but i have a strong feeling Viggo Mortenson is going to be one of the stars of season 2.
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02-18-2014 , 10:55 PM
i can totally see viggio in this show, and not for nothing but his chemistry with ed harris was phenomenal in appaloosa.
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02-18-2014 , 10:56 PM
Definitely using the "captain of the varsity slut team" line on any future daughters I may have.
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02-18-2014 , 10:57 PM
i just watched an episode of downton abbey and two episodes of walking dead.
Sunday is too long to wait for TD.
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02-18-2014 , 11:59 PM
So who's had the balls to read Act II of The King in Yellow?!
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02-19-2014 , 12:24 AM
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Definitely using the "captain of the varsity slut team" line on any future daughters I may have.
I hope not!
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02-19-2014 , 12:26 AM
Rewatched all episodes today. Did I hear it right that the Sheriff who was in charge of the Hillbilly Cathouse was the same last name of one of the people in the task force that Tuttle wanted to pass the case onto?
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02-19-2014 , 12:38 AM
My theory is that in true "The King in Yellow" fashion, the writers of this show provide us the viewers with so many red herrings/possible plot directions that we bang our heads up against the wall (insanity) trying to make sense of it all.

We started this show viewing from a perspective that everything we were seeing was at face value. But over time and as the season unfolds we construe complicated theories of what the true meaning or direction of the plot really is. We start with a level 1 thinking show and over 5 episodes have, on our own, constructed a level 3 thinking plot line- hidden meanings, parallels with old stories, and general over thinking. The season ends with a face value or level 1 thinking conclusion. No hidden meaning or parallels, a simple detective story. So in fact we were out leveled by the writers: made to believe the story is more complicated than it really is.

We end up spending hours on message boards posting our own personal off the wall theories- all for nothing. We are driven to our modern world version of insanity, failing to accept that this plot is as simple as it really is. Much like the King in Yellow, where readers are driven to insanity after failing to accept how simple the terms and secrets to life really are.
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02-19-2014 , 12:48 AM
MM wandering around the closed church school was a nod to the climactic scene of Nicholas Roeg's film Don't Look Now.
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02-19-2014 , 01:07 AM
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My theory is that in true "The King in Yellow" fashion, the writers of this show provide us the viewers with so many red herrings/possible plot directions that we bang our heads up against the wall (insanity) trying to make sense of it all.

We started this show viewing from a perspective that everything we were seeing was at face value. But over time and as the season unfolds we construe complicated theories of what the true meaning or direction of the plot really is. We start with a level 1 thinking show and over 5 episodes have, on our own, constructed a level 3 thinking plot line- hidden meanings, parallels with old stories, and general over thinking. The season ends with a face value or level 1 thinking conclusion. No hidden meaning or parallels, a simple detective story. So in fact we were out leveled by the writers: made to believe the story is more complicated than it really is.

We end up spending hours on message boards posting our own personal off the wall theories- all for nothing. We are driven to our modern world version of insanity, failing to accept that this plot is as simple as it really is. Much like the King in Yellow, where readers are driven to insanity after failing to accept how simple the terms and secrets to life really are.
Really good thought, makes a lot of sense. Earlier ITT I mentioned how I'm increasingly feeling leveled by the show. Like I'm playing heads-up w/ Ivey. I'm just gonna lose, plain and simple.
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02-19-2014 , 01:42 AM
Something struck me weird about the logo of the company advertising before those videos posted earlier itt.

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02-19-2014 , 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Bevo54
My theory is that in true "The King in Yellow" fashion, the writers of this show provide us the viewers with so many red herrings/possible plot directions that we bang our heads up against the wall (insanity) trying to make sense of it all.

We started this show viewing from a perspective that everything we were seeing was at face value. But over time and as the season unfolds we construe complicated theories of what the true meaning or direction of the plot really is. We start with a level 1 thinking show and over 5 episodes have, on our own, constructed a level 3 thinking plot line- hidden meanings, parallels with old stories, and general over thinking. The season ends with a face value or level 1 thinking conclusion. No hidden meaning or parallels, a simple detective story. So in fact we were out leveled by the writers: made to believe the story is more complicated than it really is.

We end up spending hours on message boards posting our own personal off the wall theories- all for nothing. We are driven to our modern world version of insanity, failing to accept that this plot is as simple as it really is. Much like the King in Yellow, where readers are driven to insanity after failing to accept how simple the terms and secrets to life really are.
We've seen this movie before (with respect to trying to out level the audience), it was called Inception and it more or less sucked. The right balance here would be to have some relatively straightforward ending that's neither too ridiculous nor too open ended, because what's making this show outstanding so far isn't some revolutionary narrative that out levels the viewer, it's a ground breaking character (MM), great lines, great cinematography, great spooky themes and images. I'm rooting for it to end with a conspiracy of cops or a cult or the preacher (wouldn't mind an Eyes Wide Shut type of thing), not with the 'nothing is ever solved' idea that MM was peddling this week. That would be pointless and leave us with a sour taste.
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02-19-2014 , 02:34 AM
as long as it doesn't end like a Stephen King book with some dumb supernatural twist or either MM or WH being the killer there is almost no chance the ending can ruin the show.
then again I don't care if every loose end is tied up etc.
I have friends that hated NCFOM becaus "the good n bad guy never duked it out n it didn't have a sense of finality" lol.
zodiac wasn't any less awesome cuz the mystery was never solved.
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02-19-2014 , 02:41 AM
Someone brought up the train heist from Breaking Bad.. I thought the stash house scene in TD blew away the train heist from BB.
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02-19-2014 , 02:50 AM
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Someone brought up the train heist from Breaking Bad.. I thought the stash house scene in TD blew away the train heist from BB.
Agreed.
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02-19-2014 , 02:50 AM
oh add Sam Sheperd to the list of ppl I think would be great in future seasons.
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