I'm out next year unless people say it's worth watching after the fact.

Yup. Expert strat unless they get a dynamite cast (Denzel?) and pilot is omg amazing.

Thing is idk what big time actor is gonna wanna sign on after this sh*t show

If you mean the Lt. then obviously yes. Dude knew where everyone was going to be at just the right time. Elite detective.

Obv one thing missing from VV's desert hallucinations was Stan with his eyes burned out sobbing "Why couldn't you save me VV?"

A+

What was that quote about this season's ending being one of the most satisfying HBO had ever done?

Because that was one of the most unsatisfying episodes of television I've ever seen.

I think the only reason it was satisfying for me is because the only plot line i 100% understood was the Ray and his kid stuff.

Finale was so much worse than I was expecting. Like, no way it can be that bad worse. But here we are.

I even went for better sourcing of the quote after the episode was finished since there was confusion earlier itt over what was actually said. Yea, he said that. And +1 one of the most unsatisfying episodes of tv ever.

Meh, I'll still watch the new pilot but if it's bad I'm done

Worst episode of a horrible season.

Good God, I didn't think it could get worse.

Also the season's death tally is...50 people? Show was just a series of deaths nobody cared about, loosely connected by bad characters with bad lines.

Take away all of his writing awards.

My favorite scene from the entire season. Possibly series. Up there with time as a flat circle, imo.

She was also a terrible actress, let's be honest. Those two were hopeless.

Also I think it is pretty clear that VV is supposed to be some sort of manifestation of Nic P himself, especially with the taunting from his father and the taunting from the 80s-garbed black kids, both of which would be representative of his childhood.

finale was atrocious and legitimately had no reason to be 90 minutes

Posthumous paternity test - just more cheesiness, or odd homage to John Singleton (in Boyz in the Hood when Ricky's SAT scores come in the mail after he's been gunned down)?

The rise and fall of this show was Cosbesque.

Truth and irony at the same instant

A+

I care more about this dog and his family than any character on this show.

Holy ****. I think I hate this season of this show more than any season of any show, ever. I mean, there are worse shows, but wtf. The gap between how seriously a show takes itself and how much I can be bothered to give a **** about any of it has never been so large. Is there a single scene anywhere across the entire eight episodes that isn't just oozing cheese?

El D, I'm ready for my apology about Catalast.

I did...lol. I think it's possible that was a meta sound editor joke that slipped by. Osip didn't realize how much Frank hated his father.

The satisfaction comes from it being over. It couldn't get here fast enough.

Baby was very explained. Velcro boned the sex fiend Ani, who somehow wasn't on birth control. Velcro and Ani had another red headed baby.

Those vultures were chasing after his good acting he left behind him. I think it's pretty much a lock after seeing the whole season that VV was woefully, woefully miscast. Whoever made the decision for him to play that part 99 percent straight made a huge mistake. The character should have been gallows humor all the way...or a different actor. He was such a racial epithet spewing prick too.

So many great bits that could be used for other purposes in this episode.

How the EFF else were they going to put in the scene at the bus station, the scene I don't remember after or before that, the random scene with the Mexicans, and the salute between Velcro and the fat p***y?

I tried to tell everyone to watch out for red hairings (NP punned you all). Every person with red hair turned out to be something that no one thought they were, or weren't what people thought they were.

I'm trying to figure out what was satisfying about that finale. Somehow Woodrugh gets a freeway named after him despite dying in a really weird off duty way? Velcro spent his last moments flipping out about an upload trying to get extra time for it to send. It turns out it was the message he left for his son. I think I'm going to send the message to that address, just so he can know his dad went to extra effort to make sure he got it but it failed. As smart as Velcro was, he was too stupid to know that there probably wouldn't be good cell service off a dirt road in the middle of a forest.

Pretty much all that happened was broken down in this thread already. The silliest part of the storyline is Tony Chessani being some master genius despite his singular scene in the story making him seem anything but. I guess Betty was in on it, too, but she must have asked them to write her out of the show or something. She had two meaningless scenes, and *poof*. Our detectives identified the orphan kids from a single photo 23 years later. Leonard actually had the crow's head IN HIS HOUSE, along with every other piece of incriminating evidence...lol. The diamonds were the Vinci buy in, and Caspere held some back. They claim he was holding those diamonds over their heads, but I doubt it, I think he just effed up. It's very clear that Dixon was intentionally murdered in the shootout. Laura the girl orphan somehow managed to luckbox her way into being Caspere's secretary (that's bad writing kids). The set photographer mattered, and all the stuff that felt clear in the first 3 episodes or so was (multiple people had predicted the set photographer was in on it, thought he might be the shooter, and thought he was the guy who torched the car). They went out of their way to misdirect from that. The single biggest misdirection or weirdness was the Mexicans, whose coincidences know no ends. The kidnapping seemed to be very much an homage to Training Day, but then they just kidnapped him.

Essentially, the show was about those diamonds. Everyone got lucky and it turned into a vast conspiracy. The body was dumped the way it was for no conceivable purpose, and somehow the stars aligned for our heroes to get together. Big power won again, and even though the guy has that huge story, good luck getting the L.A. Times to print that...lol. But the main case was solved, and everyone but the worst bad guy in it was taken down (Burris). Strange strange season, there better be top name talent attached to next season. Anything like a Justin Lin type for directing is a huge red flag, just like it was for this season. It's a shame it fell so hard.

Oh, and why did VV have so many guns (I know he ordered them)? He couldn't even carry/use half of them if he wanted to.

Oh, oh, NP can't have people on his back about his treatment of women because he let Erica go, let Ani live, let VV's wife (can't remember her name) not be a bad person, and didn't make Abigail Spencer be the mother of a child of rape (she probably feels like a mega prick now for how she's always treated her son).

The biggest mistake the show made was not hiring Rob Cohen as director. He thinks everything he's working on is Shakespeare.

Was there a good boobi scene all year?
Ray Donovan this season >>>> TD this season ( prolly could have gotten 500-1 on that preseason )
Hard to believe this show once yielded a Miss OOT

There is zero way anyone would have given you 500 to 1 on Ray Donovan being better with Justin Lin directing the first two episodes of season 2 of True Detective.

You can blame emily nassbaum for shaming\ soul crushing NP from ever using gratuitous Boobage on an episode of TD ever again