Man, it's like some of you didn't even watch the rest of the show.

THE PLOT TWISTS!!! WHERE ARE THE ****ING PLOT TWISTS OMGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!?????????!!!!!!!!!!??????

an unfortunate, lazy, ending to one of the best shows in recent memory. I'm referring to the showdown, not the hospital scenes. Cohle, who obviously doesn't play by the rules, who has been shown previously to have an arsenal (AK, grenades ffs), takes only a pistol to the final showdown. That right there is unconscionable.

Why wouldn't they simply stake out the place? Wait in two cars, for days if necessary, have one car follow anyone leaving the place and LOOK FOR SCARS?

If they are going in, why not with carbines and vests? HBO has the best drama on 'television', but the kind of action you would expect from a drama department nerd director. See Game of Thrones.

good post

> breaking bad. Just sayin

you're a boring nit

i mean, i agree that they should have been more heavily armed. but it literally lowered my enjoyment of the episode 0%.

How great was that hallucinatory vortex?

episode for episode, this was far better, but i think the comparisons are a bit unfair because the miniseries is more like a really long movie than a tv show. a miniseries is self-contained whereas a tv show has to introduce new characters/storylines constantly, some of which end up being aggravating.

band of brothers, true detective...nothing really comes close to these as far as I'm concerned on tv. there's seasons of sopranos and BB and the wire and other shows that are amazing, but in their totality, I'd take TD and BoB over anything else.

I'm an awesome nit, but that's not the point. It isn't nittery to complain about 'oh hi ma'am, we are surveyors out for a stroll, ignore my partner inexplicably open carrying on the hip...'

It's a sloppy resolution that is out of character for both detectives. They have strong reason to believe that they are closing in on a very dangerous adversary. I believe that either they would use more caution, or, if they are going in 'guns blazing', go for broke.

Vindication.

thought the finale was great. was cringing (in a good way) through the whole chase and fight. the house Errol Childress was living in was seriously ****ed up and creepy. something about those books and the tangle of pine-tree air fresheners (hanging from the kitchen) totally pushed it over the top.

feeling relieved they didn't go for a twist w Audrey like people were speculating and hoping for. would have totally undercut the WH hospital room scene, which fit the bleak mood of the show perfectly.. the daughters standing off to the side, the huge ass diamond ring on Maggie's finger.. i really felt for WH when he started sobbing -- his friendship with Rust is the only good relationship he has anymore, kind of like how Marty was Rust's "only friend on the force" in 1995-2002.

on MM's worldview: has it changed that much? he's still disappointed at his "resurrection"; consciousness remains a condemned state (a nice turn on the christ myth), a "tragic misstep" -- to quote ep. 1 -- that takes him away from his daughter. so although i was surprised by the optimistic tone of the show's final moment, i wasn't entirely let down by it.

hope we get to see more by everyone involved, though i could have done without Errol Childress's british accent

heh...

Complete s---show. Haven't been this disappointed since.. I have no idea. Guess next time I need to read between the lines on ****ing twitter to figure out how badly I'm going to be let down. Ugh.

this sums up my thoughts on the finale. still goat tv.

http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-wat...k-on-season-1/

only thing worth complaining about was the green paint on erroll's ears, but it's so far-fetched and out of tone with the entire rest of the show i can only assume(hope) it was done on purpose.

there were plenty of plausible ways they could have found his house (everyone would have believed some green noise-cancelling headphones), so i take that scene with MM looking into the camera and saying "**** you" as him verbalizing the metaphorical "**** you" that the modern "detail oriented" audience has just been given.

i could just be rationalizing though. whether it's a mediocre joke, lazy writing, or just an homage to breaking bad's air traffic controller; it definitely wasn't the high point of the show.

not quite the same outside the context of the scene, but here is the finale song:



it was made specifically for the show

This could be mankind's greatest achievement.

i was on team 'plot doesnt matter, there will be tons of loose ends, and most of you will be disappointed' from the get go. it was obvious that the majority of people were going to be let down by any finale, what with people literally suggesting this was the greatest show in television history (after 4 episodes).

nevertheless, i really hated the last ep. felt like the second half of a movie i would not pay to go and see. did not sign up for generic serial killer gets caught by two best buddy cops who almost die and then realise that they should be better people.

Being one of those who felt the show needed to explain the Audrey thing, I'm obviously a little disappointed. Correct me if I'm wrong, though, she wasn't dressed all gothic in that scene in the hospital, right? So in a sense, the cloud has been lifted.

Ultimately, to me it comes down to the 5-on-1 doll scene. If that's anything but 5 on 1, then her character works really well as a symbol of the case invading Marty's personal life, the cult/murders impacting society around them. She's acting out, she's a bit of a troubled teenager, etc, but she doesn't do anything that requires specific knowledge of the case/cult. Maybe she saw some black stars on a building, and thought they looked cool. Explain away the painting matching the hospital however. The tiara is her bullying her sister in a way the show used symbolically.

But how in the world did she pose 5 male dolls in a circle around a female? She had no knowledge, and Marty couldn't hallucinate it because he didn't have that knowledge yet either.

To those saying people like me are looking for "twists," I think that was foreshadowed enough that it wouldn't have been some huge plot twist. Like, green paint breaks the case open is more of a plot twist than Audrey seeing a tape or hearing a story that messed up her head. For example, if she walked into the hospital room and gave her Dad a hug and said she had a friend in elementary school who told her a story and it was a cloud hanging over her head and thanks for catching the guy, would that have been some insane reveal or twist?

That to me is the only real disappointment. I would have liked a little bit more background on the cult, maybe uncovering some of the higher ups with the masks, but I think there's a message in them not being caught and I get that, and it works. It's the machine working in the background, keeping the powers that be in power (kind of like that ever-present industrial complex). I also think we may get some of this type of background out of Pizzolatto's interviews in the coming days, so that's fine too.

I thought it would have been more fitting if Rust died - I was kind of expecting him to tell Marty to drag him out of there because he didn't want to die in Carcosa, and thought he'd go out kind of like that scene in Breaking Bad ("Let me die in peace" - I won't spoil it more than that in case some people waiting to see BB stumble upon this)... I thought Marty might bite it too, and that could have worked... But them surviving works. I think if we stumbled upon them in five years, we'd see them regressing - Rust probably lingering on not catching Erroll in '95 on the lawnmower, Marty perhaps the same wondering why he beeped the horn so quickly, etc... Marty would be lingering on missing out on his family all those years. So they'd be in better shape than say 2002-2012, but not in as good of shape as they were in when it ended.

But the whole show was about Rust and Marty, their flaws, their relationship, and the growth/evolution of those things... And we saw that to an end. Did Rust come back a little too far from being a nihilist? Maybe, but we know that a traumatic life event made him that way so maybe he's just getting closer to the way he was before losing his daughter.

Leaving the Audrey thing out doesn't ruin the show for me, but it takes it from maybe an A+ to an A- overall. If you went back and changed that doll scene to like a random 3 on 1 Barbie doll gangbang, then I'd say the whole thing was perfect.

They overdid that scene a little bit, but I guess that's the human condition - everyone and everything has a flaw.

Was just about to link this. People really need to read this if you didn't like the ending

Edit: especially the guy who posted just above me

Exactly. This was the best ending possible IMO. Myself, many of my friends, lots of us are strung out on existential **** like Camus, Sartre, Dostoyevsky, ect, yet still enjoy stuff like playing sports, female companionship, buying stuff, all that jazz.

In fact, MOST PEOPLE out of the 7 billion on Earth, harbor RCs philosophy when being completely honest, and yet, only a miniscule % actually DO evil acts, mostly because Rust is just intellectually honest and not deranged.

There is a big difference between the Morrissey-like backroom casuality philosopher and someone who is so warped and does things like Yellow King Cult, or a real life example I witnessed, terrorist acts like the Boston Bombing.

I'm sooo glad Rust 1) wasn't a killer and 2) didn't kill himself -- most "intellectually aware" people like that just "bear witness" until the bitter, natural end.

A+

Were people seriously expecting that a massive decades-long cover-up would be revealed and MM would victoriously chant, "Alright, alright, alright," as the entire Louisiana patriarchy was perp-walked past him as fireworks went off in the background?

I absolutely loved the quick dismissal of this infantile view on the newscast in the epilogue: "No connection to the Tuttles has been found, and investigation has ceased." MM clicks off tv.