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03-09-2014 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
I also found Cohle's moment about his kid made total sense. He essentially died inside that maze, something he had been yearning for all series (but couldn't bring himself to do). Finally he died (or as close as it gets), and felt close to his child again, and he feels cheated because he didn't die. It's totally consistent.

what? no.

the ending was MM, who is a religious person, preaching that there is an afterlife, and his character's nihilism is false.

it had absolutely nothing to do with the plot.
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03-09-2014 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by chim17
This is best way to say it. Show just ended up being shallow and formulaic. That's disappointing. Still real good, though.

Just sucks since rest of show had so much depth to it.
well that's a silly thing to say even if you didn't like the end
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03-09-2014 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Lagtastic
I was not clamorimg for a twist at all. My disappointment stems from being intrigued by the cults origins and current state and getting nothing on that.

I rmean the ending was they get the bad guy and live happily ever after. That's like 1980s television. Not sure how this would be viewed as innovative. Whereas every second of every other part of the series was.

Overall this was a great show. Hart and Cohle go down as the best detective duo ever IMO. I just was let down by the ending.
Innovative in the sense that no other television programs had stayed at such an insanely high level of production value, sure.

But this was really just a pretty straightforward thriller story. Like those Morgan Freeman movies, or Silence of the Lambs, etc etc. There's a bad dude doing bad ****, some mismatched detectives are on the case.
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03-09-2014 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RacersEdge
What a letdown

Not a word about Audrey. This type of storytelling is just bad.

**** this.
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03-09-2014 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by EvalEvan
The scene when Rust signaled the sniper to fire a few shots was very similar to the scene with the laser pointers in the Breaking Bad finale.
and the guy in bed looked almost exactly like the creep John Doe had tied to the bed in Seven. I'm sure none of this was lost on Pizzolatto.
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03-09-2014 , 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 50yearoldnit
There were no real stretches in the first seven episodes, but they made up for it tonight. I mean the green house paint solving the case, come on man.
Yeah, it's like they paint themselves in a corner with an elaborate story, then the writers are like "damn, how are they gonna break the case? I know - let's give the spaghetti monster green ears - that he got from house paint. Yep, that works. Problem solved."
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03-09-2014 , 10:59 PM
really loved it 10/10

I think the No Country comparison is on point.
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03-09-2014 , 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RacersEdge
Yeah, it's like they paint themselves in a corner with an elaborate story, then the writers are like "damn, how are they gonna break the case? I know - let's give the spaghetti monster green ears - that he got from house paint. Yep, that works. Problem solved."


yeah "and it has to be something that happens quick, so we can give McConaughey his religious soliloquy at the end"
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03-09-2014 , 11:01 PM
Die HBOGO... Die! Dunno if its been brought up already bc I'm scared of seeing spoilers.
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03-09-2014 , 11:02 PM
If we're gonna compare to NCFOM... bout time someone with HBO did an 8-12 episode version of Blood Meridian
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03-09-2014 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Rendle
really loved it 10/10

I think the No Country comparison is on point.
I love No Country but... no.

It's not like that at all.

edit: I totally get why this connection is being drawn but I think this is a misinterpretation
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03-09-2014 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rendle
I think the No Country comparison is on point.


I'm not buying the comparison for multiple reasons, primarily that one of the points of No Country was that the universe doesn't respect light and dark. It was much more true to its nihilistic implications.

I even think Tommy Lee Jones' closing "then I woke up" meant something ENTIRELY different than MM's.
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03-09-2014 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RacersEdge
Yeah, it's like they paint themselves in a corner with an elaborate story, then the writers are like "damn, how are they gonna break the case? I know - let's give the spaghetti monster green ears - that he got from house paint. Yep, that works. Problem solved."

in a bubble the little clue that breaks a whodoneit will most likely seem far fetched, real or Hollywood. They probably could have come up with better than green ears, but they got son of sam on a parking ticket ffs.
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03-09-2014 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rendle
really loved it 10/10

I think the No Country comparison is on point.
never get tired of it:

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03-09-2014 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by druidfluid
Die HBOGO... Die! Dunno if its been brought up already bc I'm scared of seeing spoilers.
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03-09-2014 , 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NeueRegel
yeah "and it has to be something that happens quick, so we can give McConaughey his religious soliloquy at the end"
Man you know that's not how it works. And also, what? I mean, maybe we're about to get too deeply into your personal Audrey phase, but Cohle's nihilism was a flaw.

It got resolved over the course of the show. His character advanced. That's what characters are supposed to do. Marty realized the importance of family, Cohle got some measure of closure on his ****ed up life.
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03-09-2014 , 11:10 PM
When scarface stomped on the ax I really thought all 3 were going to die there and go undiscovered. I started to tear up because I thought it was a really beautiful way to end the story.
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03-09-2014 , 11:14 PM
I'm not sure how I feel about the episode, my initial reaction is that it was a letdown.

The Lawnmower Man, I just don't see how a dirty, slobby, messy, cluttered POS looking guy like that would be able to pull off the Lang and LC murder scenes.

That maze was pretty damn great.

I didn't mind Rust's speech at the end, I always felt he was religious but after his daughter died he went a different way to try and cope.

I did like how Marty told rust that they don't catch all the bad guys, the world doesn't work that way, but they caught their guy.

So basically, lawnmower man killed the girls and his dad or another Childress would rewrite the case and the other people involved in the video where just random pedos? Didn't his wife say that about the other people?
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03-09-2014 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by electricladylnd
I'm not sure how I feel about the episode, my initial reaction is that it was a letdown.

The Lawnmower Man, I just don't see how a dirty, slobby, messy, cluttered POS looking guy like that would be able to pull off the Lang and LC murder scenes.

That maze was pretty damn great.

I didn't mind Rust's speech at the end, I always felt he was religious but after his daughter died he went a different way to try and cope.

I did like how Marty told rust that they don't catch all the bad guys, the world doesn't work that way, but they caught their guy.

So basically, lawnmower man killed the girls and his dad or another Childress would rewrite the case and the other people involved in the video where just random pedos? Didn't his wife say that about the other people?
They did sort of address his character as being secretly brilliant though. I thought when he did all those voices, they showed that he did have a bright mind. Bright enough to hide behind a slobby lawnmower guy facade to be able to kill at will along the coast. He found the one job that would give him easy access to all kinds of places to "hunt". But ya, a brilliant guy wouldn't typically also be a hoarder. That was a bit off.
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03-09-2014 , 11:16 PM
FlyWf had a really interesting post which I can't find at the moment. Basically it said how Lost kind of created this Reddit culture of OCD fans analyzing every screenshot. I feel like that kind of ruined this last episode of TD for me.
Through the first 5 episodes I saw this as just a straightforward cop show, good vs evil etc. Then all of a sudden everything you read online was crazy theory after crazy theory and I kind of got sucked into that.
This was really just a story about two men paired together that we're extremely different in many ways but similar in others and their journey. It was excellent story telling, acting, and cinematography- not what do the numbers mean, why are we pressing the button.
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03-09-2014 , 11:17 PM
I would have put the line on MM surviving the finale at +5000.

If nothing else, that surprised me.
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03-09-2014 , 11:20 PM
Wat you can't be saying Marty & Rust are "good" vs evil. Both of them find some redemption in the very end but their lives leading up to there can by no stretch of the imagination be described as 'good' this is a gross misreading.
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03-09-2014 , 11:20 PM
I thoroughly enjoyed it and don't hate that it was a straight forward story from the start at all. In fact, I commend them for that and think it was near perfectly executed.

I do wish they went into the following this weirdo ****** hilbilly had and how he became The Yellow King. I understand his grandfather started it and the whole family was involved in some way, but how did this guy become the leader?

I also can't accept that these true detectives would stop at catching the yellow king when there are clearly 5+ people in the video involved in the murder of multiple children. Wouldn't they make it their life's goal to catch everyone involved?

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03-09-2014 , 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Brocktoon
I would have put the line on MM surviving the finale at +5000.

If nothing else, that surprised me.
Soon as he saw the flat circle in the roof in Carcosa I thought it was gg Cohle. In a way, it was, his former self died there.
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03-09-2014 , 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
They did sort of address his character as being secretly brilliant though. I thought when he did all those voices, they showed that he did have a bright mind. Bright enough to hide behind a slobby lawnmower guy facade to be able to kill at will along the coast. He found the one job that would give him easy access to all kinds of places to "hunt". But ya, a brilliant guy wouldn't typically also be a hoarder. That was a bit off.

If you had some sources in the police making sure your victims didn't get looked for...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Sowell
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