Ozzy did get shown up by Stick Immunity Idol boy in a hold your breath FvF challenge though.

penner'd

It's funny to see someone with a Jonathan Goldsmith avatar say this, since I often think Coach is reality television's version of The Most Interesting Man in the World.

I just assumed that it was a group effort, initiated by Albert, and Coach went in prepared. Props on the execution but I take issue with the soul read comments, I guess.

I sent out a bunch of PM's and somehow i may of messed up... did anyone but Gary Wise get a PM from me?

I got one.

+1

same

Is it wrong to attempt to influence the Sheep answers? I just thought some might have forgotten...

Does this mean you aren't voting Albert?

You have to give a lot of credit to Coach. The best part of his speech didn't have much to do with knowing what was up with him and Ozzy at the last TC. It was understanding the struggles Cochran had faced in his tribe and getting Cochran to believe that he had faced the same in life, creating a bond based on shared experience. Albert wouldn't have given Coach that information. Other than the fact that that's just an awkward thing to tell someone ("Hey Coach, I bet you get insulted all the time for being different too, you should use that!"), it gives Coach way too powerful of a bond with someone when Albert could have just as easily done it himself.

Well, I thought it was going to be a stretch to get a bunch of dudes to vote for a dude...even one as handsome as Albert. If everyone votes Albert, I may have to quit the Sheep game. Or just start answering what I think instead of trying to anticipate what others are going to say.

But Coach does have people make fun of him so it's not a stretch. How does Albert sell that one? I used to be nerdy in high school? People are mean to me because I'm so dang good lookin?

I agree that having people you can predict is helpful, and that a lot of survivor depends on your luck in being on the same tribe or even having your first conversations with people who fit well for your game.

But I think you are assuming it's impossible to understand and take advantage of people who "aren't playing to win." (i.e. don't think like you)

Actually, it is just like survivor, including your assumption that there's only one goal! In poker, people are interested in several different goals:
winning, going far (and/or hitting certain "checkpoints" such as the money bubble of FT), having a good time, running huge (but stupid) bluffs, showing everyone else how good they are (i.e. showing cards needlessly), playing at a featured table, winning pots (instead of trying to maximize value), catch people bluffing, etc.

In both cases understanding why are they there helps to understand how you can exploit them.

Cash, can I be in sheep even though I didn't play last week?

rick still in the box seat. book it. thinking he might be cooking up a 3-person secret alliance with dawn and whitney

Wrong girl imo, Soncy, but a fine effort. Busting out the nudes is dirty sheep.

Yaaaaaa she is

Blast. I should have just put Albert. Whitney? Elyse? I had Whitney for like every other answer. I felt like I was guessing 'C' too often. I suck at this game.

Secret Scenes:

Keep the family strong: God made Jim lose the challenge so the blues could vote him off. Brandon likes Jim. Nothing personal. As long as he does the right thing by God, the right thing in his heart, then whether or not he gets voted off doesn't matter.

Didn't want to see Ozzy: Keith not super excited about having to compete against Ozzy in the duel. Hopes to beat Ozzy but be friends after the show. He expects a Pagonging. Would prefer to see Cochran {goofy Fabio laugh}. Keith is on to Cochran weasling himself into an Upolu alliance when they start stabbing each other in the back. I'm with him on that one.

Cochran effect: Coach: "Cochran's a stud...late bloomer. I knew when I took him under my wing that we are going to see his life changed by this game. (Everything is somehow always about Coach.) We are seeing him stand up for himself more. We are seeing him walk differently...he's continuing to come out of his shell. In my coat and Rick's hat, he looks like a bad@$$."

Coach's jacket: Cochran also with a sense of drama. Perhaps that's what he and Coach really bonded over. Wearing Coach's iconic jacket to TC was full of symbolism. Coach's dragon blood is now flowing in Cochran's veins.

Brutal TC: Rick not a fan of seeing his name written down at TC. Now Cochran is his new best friend. Offered his bed to Cochran and feels indebted to him. OMG, these people. Slept by his feet like a dog.

Beyond furious: Whitney showed extreme focus to win the balancing challenge while full of rage from watching Cochroach pig out.

Worst feeling: Betrayal hurts. Keith has lived a charmed life, I guess, as he is saying this may be the worst feeling he has had in his entire life. Guy sounds just like Fabio with the drawn out words and pauses.

Upolu (+Cochran) sat out: Edna says eating sweets was a strategic move to show the three Savaii's that they are unified. She and Coach wanted to compete, but the group made a decision to sit out. You wanted to eat, fool. It's ok.

Religious bond: Albert believes in God and is faithful, but he's playing a cold, calculated, win at all costs game. I'm not sure if Clovis approves or not...bout half I imagine. Al says the faith bond is tying their group together and preventing rampant paranoia.

RI is a blessing: Ozzy is a lone wolf at heart. We will see if Upolu is as honorable as they say when their members start filtering through RI. He thinks if RI winner can get back in the game and sit next to two Upolu's that person will win. He's counting on hurt feelings when blues have to start killing each other off. I'm with him on that one.

Ozzy catches a big fish.

Old dogs, new tricks: Coach thinks Survivor is fun when you try to play it to win...new experience for him. Good Coach-Chi avatar material in here.

Mixed emotions: Cochran now realizing that it IS annoying that he sucks at challenges. Suddenly, gaining some insight into his old tribe members. "Ozzy is a big threat, but he did spare me, and I do have sympathy for his plight. He didn't blow up at me like the rest after I betrayed the tribe."

Member of the Family: Cochran also felt weird about sitting out the challenge to eat sweets. What is wrong with these people? I would have sat that challenge out even if I was on the block. There was no way I'd beat Dawn or Whitney, so why not eat some cake? (This last bit was probably a lie...except for the part where I wanted to eat cake, and the part where I couldn't win that challenge.)

Love the challenges: Dawn loves the challenges. She's describing the challenge...like we didn't see it? Or the cameraman cares? Glad Jim didn't win. Nervous that Jim is still running his mouth trying to save himself. Regrets wearing her shoes in the challenge. But happy for Whitney that she had a chance to win.

Jim's plan: Jim finally realizing that other players might have different priorities than he does. KOS? But best third place finisher of all time? Come on. Rob C. Cirie. Besides I think he's underestimating Cochran's chances. Jim going old school. Pull Sophie and Albert aside to show them how Coach is going to win this game if they don't make a move.

I'm not a coward: Jim's opening line, "I'm the most hated person in camp because I say it like it is." I'm viewing this directly after he was bashing Cochran for playing a third place game. I find the irony delicious. I'm so rooting for Jim to have to make the decision on Cochran at the FTC. Will he be capable of crediting him with making a move that destroyed Savaii, but advanced himself? It's not like that concept is alien to him. He just ranted about playing to win, and 6 people can't win, etc. Is he capable of listening to what is coming out of his mouth, and then putting himself in someone else's shoes. Or is he just another, 'you screwed me so screw you' kind of person.

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The Everywoman is liking Coach this season. She isn't rooting for anyone in particular. Likes Cochran. Seems to be taken by young Hantz. She didn't know who Rick was, but I found it a little alarming that she also couldn't remember Albert's name. Called him that guy with the scruffy face. Not a good sign, people.

My guess is Jim Logan Rice III is reading this right now and feeling like a bit of a jackass.

Yea, I don't want to take anything away from coach's execution. That talk was pulled off perfectly. I just take issue with the idea that coach soulread the plan. Maybe he was alone in deciding how to bond with cochrane or maybe it was a group effort (Albert and Sophie, ldo), we really can't know.

Gotta love Ozzy. "I'll cook us a nice fish and then, send you on your way." so sic so sic *Elky's Tone*

Holy crap, can I vote for a podcast guess for GOAT this week?

Erinn Lobdell calling Ozzy a "Giant Braying Douchebag" wins the week handsdown.

Welcome to the thread Jim.