she couldnt have made a difference in this vote

Donathon is extremely dumb

only Dom or Wendell deserve to win, everyone else is dumb including Laurel

So this.

Thirded. And it's not like I'm against dom or Wendell at all. But I like boss players to actually have to outplay and outwit to win...not just have everyone lie down to them

So does Laurel think Dom and Wendell’s FTC votes cancel each other out?

Dom 4
Wen 4
Cancel out so both have 0 and Donathon hands her the Milly with his 1 vote?

Only thing that makes sense.

They are boss enough to not play idols. But yeah, they are getting. An easy ride. Just a question of which one wins final immunity and which has to make fire to make FTC.

i thought it was dumb for dom/wendell to win reward together after just going on the coveted family reward and having a lot of backlash. and then i thought it was dumb again to leave donathan/angela/kellyn on the island together. i guess it makes sense they didnt want to give donathan a possible advantage though

have to give survivor props for the great, original reward challenge. about time they try something new (and i know theyv'e done that concept before individually, but not as a team like this)

have to love donathan trying to shake things up. obviously the execution wasn't great and you guys can criticize it all week if you want to. at least hes trying and even going against laurel to do so. i thought it was a smart tactic to put it in wendell's head that dom would beat him in the end too. it just didnt work out. and then he was actually right about seeing dom/wendell shenanigans when they actually were planning some type of fake idol play. sure, a smarter player would keep some of these observations to themselves and not talk so much, but this is what makes great tv.

it also sucks the way the immunity played out since it left laurel feeling bad for wendell. her last confessional before the challenge was saying she wanted to cut their throats, but then after the challenge she said she wanted it to be in the right way and this would just be wrong. its easy to criticize this too, but i think its hard for any of us to be in her shoes on this one. i can empathize with that feeling after wendell should've won immunity. the other thing is that she's in a hugely separate position from donathan because shes the one who is going to final 3. and that is a nice thing to be guaranteed, even if you aren't the favorite

my memory may be off on this, but doesn't 2nd and 3rd make a decent amount? like 2nd gets 100k or something? they never talk about it much anymore but thats what i remember from very early seasons. so idk, i can see laurel being ok with this, or putting off a big move until the very last second. she does kind of have a point about dom/wendell splitting votes (i said this exactly ITT last week). considering it seems like a lot of viewers are split on who should win between dom and wendell, i cant imagine the jury is all set. it feels like they will split votes. so who knows if laurel could rack up a couple malolo's or bitter naviti's. its enough that i could see her talking herself into it and guaranteeing herself a 2nd or 3rd place finish. i mean consider the alternative - say wendell and dom were wiped out tonight and next vote, leaving a f5 of kellyn/angela/sebastian/laurel/donathan. what happens to laurel then? id say she is much better at the current final 6 because she would not make f3 out of that f5. and kellyn has been coming at her, so it makes sense for her to want kellyn out

there were some great faces at tribal tonight btw. angela not knowing what to do on the re-vote, turning to wendell, wendell shrugging, and angela covering her face in agony was pretty great. then of course donathan picking up his bag and putting it on his lap, then after kellyn is voted out he gives a great face to the jury and puts his bag back down.

this might be a hot take, but i think donathan would be most live at a f3 with dom/wendell. he still seems lovable by all (besides those he is in direct conflict with, who wouldnt be on the jury), and his 'truth bombs' are enough razzle dazzle that the jury might connect with and give him credit for playing his own game.

probably wont matter since he wont make it there

These people are so dumb, they should be on Big Brother

"I went down fighting" she says after she makes absolutely no attempt to get Dom or Wendell out.

Slow season is still slow...

At this point the viewer has to root for both of the bosses to make FTC (per the edit, it's obvious they both will, and I'm even thinking that the winner is obvious too at this point) otherwise there will be no suspense. I'm all for having a suspenseful FTC (i.e. Brad vs Sarah was way better than King Ben vs the other 2), but there's gotta be a better way to build up to it than what we've seen this season. Even though I wasn't 100% sure who was going home tonight, I simply didn't care who was booted, because the remaining one isn't going to be a factor later. Meh.

In the midst of my complaining, I started Survivor South Africa - for anyone else who enjoyed the two recent Australia seasons, this version seems just as legit (if not moreso!). Easy to find on YouTube.

Holy **** what a terrible season. People just lost all their fight after the Chris vote.

That was pretty much Laurel's last shot to get out one of Dom or Wendell and she said herself she doesn't think she wins against them so WTF is she doing? Playing for 3rd I guess? Also completely terrible of Donathan to vote Dom instead of Kellyn. He had to know nobody else was voting with him.

third place gets a lot of money imo

Donathan is not a smart player, he just hasn't had to make any difficult decisions yet. He's been a follower and whenever something comes up he says "I don't know what to doooo" him and Laurel discuss but it's a one sided conversation with Laurel manageing her pawn. Similar to how Laurel is Wendell's pawn to a lesser extent.

Dom/Wendell haven't been getting enough credit. I'm sure it looks easier than it actually is. They've (mostly Wendell) have done a good job with Laurel. Yeah its partially her being dumb but they've done a good job controlling her emotionally and keeping her with them.

Dom has also been very good at sniffing out any rebellion talk and they've both done a good job of messaging/intimidating with enough subtely that they aren't coming off obnoxious .

It's not like people are out there saying "Yeah I'm happy with 4th itll be cool if Dom or Wendell win "

People have been afraid to go against them bc they've done a great job of demonstrating if you come at them and miss you're ****ed.

It's obviously better to go out 9th with a shot at winning than take a 95% chance at coming in 3rd, but people aren't robots and they've done a good job preying on emotions.

Yup. Just short stacks trying to ladder up.

Season has been boring as since Chris left.

Whichever one of Dom or Wendell wins is a top tier winner. It's been a while since someone's had this much control over the game

Do they really have control? Or is it just the other dopes have waited too long to make a move? (When do they think would be a good time? After the reunion show?) If Dom and Wendell didn't have idols - granted, that is a huge part of the show - they'd be voted out next. (Unless the sheep continue to be sheep. Not a big stretch.)

It's hard to calculate how much of it is actual talent on the part of Dom and Wendell or luck and the ineptitude of the competition.

I think they've done a fantastic job managing Laurel and hiding that sub alliance they had with her and Donathan earlier from Kellyn. They've also had Seabass as a number in their pocket too and had strung along Kellyn until it was too late for her to make a move against them.

I don't think they'll have to use idols.

They've definitely had more control than most of the recent winners, Ben had no control or social capital down the stretch, Sarah did but even then she had to follow others agendas at times, Adam didn't really have much neither did Michele. Jeremy and Natalie were also blindsided a couple of times iirc.

I think Tony might be the last winner who had this much control over the boot order ?

Sarah had total control.

Yeah I think Sarah was great but didn't she have to use the Legacy Advantage at 6 and she also was forced to vote out Zeke when she didn't want to ?

She also had the advantage of playing against others who were known threats and perceived as being big players while she had no reputation working against her

Just watching you can tell the editors have their work cut out for them, since this is turning into such a paint by number season. Trying to conjure suspense or twists sure can't be easy when essentially everyone is falling into line.

I appreciate it when the editors show us exactly how the votes go down

I think the Dom versus Wendell arms race is more fun than people are giving it credit for. The show hasnt hyped it up enough. I cant remember a one-on-one matchup like this

The baller move by Dom and Wendell has been roping in the stragglers. They cultivated Sebastian last week. and this week, they got Angela on board to really go against her best interests.

It left Laurel and Donathan powerless.

Isn't it the opposite?

It's a boring season when the editors have 0 content of people talking strategy that doesn't consist of (Wendlle/Dom + Kylln or Laurel) and (Laurel + Donnathan).

The sheep have been out there for 34 days just sitting in the shelter!? Angela/Seabass/Jenna/Chelsea idiots!!!

Blame the producers to some extent with their stupid twists. Swap after 2 boots 8-10. Later, one tribe has a big lead in numbers lets split them into 3 tribes. OMG none of the 3 tribes have majority for Malolo? Math is hard.


Also saw Kellyn is dating Bradely. Disgusting. New life, new me!